2013-03-16, 21:18 | Link #3801 |
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I was going to say youre right, but I dont know if that illustration is something to go by. Specially the angle leaves a lot to desire. Besides I doubt he left any scar after the incident when he and Miyuki got close to each other, after all the scars cause Miyuki a cause of concern.
Yet again training that is like torture is not inhuman, I will concede in that last statement because the part where they show a kill during their training is when they show a glimpse of the training of Sakurai. And for that there is still a lot of time. And there may be a misinterpretation from my part. |
2013-03-16, 21:51 | Link #3802 |
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Yes the update on chapter 14 is awesome. Loli Miyuki there are no words for her she is so cute, and this means we are really close to the part i have been waiting for the talk with mom about what she did to tatsuya.
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2013-03-16, 22:15 | Link #3803 | |
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Also Miyuki seems oddly calm about the scars given her reaction to people that she sees as causeing her brother pain. She talks about them almost like badges of honor. It might sugest that he is responcable for them rather then they were something forced on him. Until we have proof that it was solely someone other then Tatsuya that forced this training on him. It's a bit premature to say they tortured him.
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2013-03-16, 22:20 | Link #3804 | |
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Remember, Kazama says: "Even the children are formidable, they are raised hand-in-hand with death." So this was done to him when he was young enough to develop his regrowth power (otherwise he could've healed the scars) so he was far too young to be able to decide to undergo the training.
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2013-03-16, 22:44 | Link #3805 | |
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2013-03-16, 22:51 | Link #3806 |
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Regrowth was mastered at the age of 14, heck much of his abilitys really awakened when he fought on this battle, I believe he thought maybe I can do this, but never really tried, the fact he didnt have a seal over his abilitys at that age shows us, he didnt really want to show them, or he didnt have the chance.
One of the reasons magic is powerful is emotions, showing us that if he puts emotion in his magic even the seals they put on him are meaningless. I think he decided to truly go all out on this battle and learned what he can truly do. |
2013-03-16, 23:04 | Link #3807 | |
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2013-03-16, 23:22 | Link #3809 | |
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If you're saying "he did it so that he could become strong to protect Miyuki" sure, okay, no problem -- but it still doesn't explain puncture and burn marks which are associated (in real life) with training to resist torture if captured. That's not "get stronger to protect Miyuki" training, it's "training you to prevent you from giving information to our enemies" training -- ie. Training to make him a better servant of the Yotsuba!
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2013-03-16, 23:27 | Link #3810 |
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Pleasure and pain are not emotions.
Emotions are lust, love, anger, happiness, sadness, and so on. Edit: Since that's probably not clear... Your arm can literally feel pleasure, pain, hot, cold, numb, sore, and so on. Those are your nerves sending signals to your brain telling it the state of your body. Your arm cannot literally feel angry, sad, happy, lustful, loving, mischievous, and so on. Those are emotions. Last edited by Rava; 2013-03-17 at 00:45. Reason: Clarification... |
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2013-03-17, 03:20 | Link #3813 |
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Well, I guess making children undergoing harsh training and torture to be soldiers to kill others are relatively normal in that setting. It's supposed to be Japan, not Middle East or Latin America though.
I guess our normal point of view for childhood doesn't really apply there. Although I think most children at Tatsuya's age don't have to do the same thing. I don't think even Juumonji and Masaki have to go to the same length. Seriously, if your family will disown you if you can't become an elite commando, will you truly say that your action to fulfill their quota isn't forced? I found that most of our discussion about Yotsuba will never go anywhere. One side supports them saying they might not be that bad and there are others worse than them, the other side think they simply suck. And the discussion just keep going on like this when the supporters side ask for concrete evidence of Yotsuba's misbehavior. It's an intelligent discussion, but truly a real waste of time! ^^ The same apply for pairing... |
2013-03-17, 06:59 | Link #3817 | |
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Also it is highly unlikely he started at that level of training because unless you're wasteful the goal is not to kill the person you're training. The diffrence is that his training didn't stop at the normal level and from the impression I got durring volume 8 it would not be out of character for him to seek out extreme levels of training.
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2013-03-17, 12:32 | Link #3818 | |
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