Star Ocean: Till the End Of Time

[Shift_]

Originally Posted by Village Idiot

This is a very philosophical question, one that I can't give an answer for.

However, in the artbook, "ETERNAL MEMORIES"

Spoiler:

It mentioned that after Luther deleted the ES, it ended up disconnecting itself from 4D Space and became it's own actual universe.

I heard that the artbook explains a LOT of stuff in the game that wasn't explained in-game.

Do you know where I can get this book?

[Village Idiot]

Originally Posted by Shift_

Can anyone describe what Nel's and Maria's ending with Fayt is? I only got the sophita ending...and the solo.

THE ENDING OF THIS GAME PISSED ME OFF. the game was good, the story was intresting. I'm just gonna start a spoiler here so I don't spoil anything.

Some of the couple endings seems to be extensions of the solo endings, like the solo endings takes place before the couple endings.

As for Maria/Nel's couple ending:

Spoiler:

Maria's Ending:

*Fayt and Maria are in her room on Diplo*

Fayt asks Maria if she is truely serious about disbanding QUARK. Maria tells him that its for the best, that because with the Pangalactic Federation gone, there is no longer a need for QUARK, because people can now truely decide how they would like to live, and that if QUARK goes around telling people how they should live their life, they would be no better than the Federation or Luther.

Fayt understands, and asks Maria what she's going to do now. Maria tells him that she's tired of fighting, and wants to go to someplace where no one's ever heard of her, to live a normal life, and grow old with someone special by her side.

Fayt asks her if she has any interesting prospects. Maria tells him, yes, she has two prospects, though its not like she ever approched them about it. Fayt, surprised, asks her if he knows those two guys.

Maria tells him that one of them is standing right in front of her, and the other is the person, she didn't choose.

THE END

Nel's Ending:

Nel is training Tynave and Farleen (ie: kicking their asses). She tells Tynave that if she misses an attack not to continue attacking so much because that wastes energy, and that Farleen not to rely on Runeology so much because Tynave can't always protect her.

Fayt finally finds Nel after looking for her the entire day, and complains why he only gets a whats up.

Fayt talks with Tynave and Farleen about how they should be really careful when Nel gets serious, because she might seem cold, but when her emotions gets out everyone's in for a whole lot of trouble.

Tynave blurts out "Like the time Lady Nel saw you talking with Lady Claire, she was mad for days.".

Tynave and Farleen start arguing about how they weren't supposed to mention that, but Nel just tells them that it's no big deal, and gives them a 'You said too much'-look. Tynave and Farleen, seeing how Nel's staring at them, runs off, while Fayt tells her, "We were only talking about work!".

THE END

[noir maou_sama]

Maria in close range with those moves? What level are you on? She get much better close range moves than that. I was very fond of Magnetic Field not only because of it's area of effect, but because of the added chance of paralysis. I only removed it to put on this hidden move that takes 8 CP. I'm not sure if going into details about moves would be considered a spoiler, therefore...

Spoiler:

The move is called Energy Burst and is found in the aftergame dungeon, Maze of Tribulations. It's this huge beam that fires forward, hitting anything in it's path for HP and MP damage. You can also hold the button down, causing the move to continue, slowly draining your fury to 0 with no additional HP cost. Enemies will continue to rapidly lose HP and MP and it's somewhat difficult for them to get out(depending on the enemy of course). Many enemies had nasty moves, so I'm glad to have the option of using one.

[Shift_]

sweet...might need to replay the game to get those endings...

however I'm still VERY intrested on where I can find this interview and artbook as it seems to fill in ALOT.

Another question...at the end of the game...do they all seem to just 'seprate' like fayt and his partner go off, and everyone else just seprates like they were from the start of the game? Because it kinda gave off a feeling they wouldn't see eachother again.

[noir maou_sama]

Forgot to mention in the nel ending...

Spoiler:

Tynave and Farleen say they couldn't imagine life without Fayt. Nothing major, though, from what you had. Would have been nice if Fayt jumped in and did some training. Just sort of felt like he was stuck in there. I wonder what the Peppita ending might be. I'll probably have to play the game again, as the Private Actions I made have probably destroyed my chances with her.

Also, I heard that Peppita, who was originally named Souffle in the Japanese version, had her name changed for some special reason. Anyone know of that?

[Village Idiot]

Originally Posted by noir maou_sama

Also, I heard that Peppita, who was originally named Souffle in the Japanese version, had her name changed for some special reason. Anyone know of that?

Yes, Peppita's Japanese name was Souffie.

Originally Posted by Shift

however I'm still VERY intrested on where I can find this interview and artbook as it seems to fill in ALOT.

You can find the ETERNAL MEMORIES artbook on Ebay, there's usually one or two copies up for auction. However, it's all in Japanese, so unless you know Japanese...

Originally Posted by noir maou_sama

Maria in close range with those moves? What level are you on? She get much better close range moves than that. I was very fond of Magnetic Field not only because of it's area of effect, but because of the added chance of paralysis. I only removed it to put on this hidden move that takes 8 CP. I'm not sure if going into details about moves would be considered a spoiler, therefore...

The move is called Energy Burst and is found in the aftergame dungeon, Maze of Tribulations. It's this huge beam that fires forward, hitting anything in it's path for HP and MP damage. You can also hold the button down, causing the move to continue, slowly draining your fury to 0 with no additional HP cost. Enemies will continue to rapidly lose HP and MP and it's somewhat difficult for them to get out(depending on the enemy of course). Many enemies had nasty moves, so I'm glad to have the option of using one.

I haven't played the Maze of Trials yet (PS2's gotten to the point where it can barely load SO3 unfortunately), but currently, Maria kicks unholy arse with Scatter Beam.

Magnetic Field does more damage, but Scatter Beam hits more times, and attacks so fast that I can do a 6x Scatter Beam chain in less time than it takes for Fayt and Nel to be part way into their own combo.

Its really not hard to fight close range with Maria, just need to know when to attack and when to evade. Becoming proficient with side-stepping really helps.

But yes, I do plan on replacing one of the Scatter Beams with Energy Burst when I get it, because that attack > everything in the game.

[Shift_]

I just tried searching it in ebay couldn't find it.

I don't know japanese, but I can easily get it translated and quickly

[noir maou_sama]

I was looking for the reason for Souffle's name change. I heard there was some sort of reason for it, but can't seem to find it. Other people had their names altered but only by a few letters rather than a whole name change.
Scatter Beam is fast, so you may have a point. I also don't think Maria is that bad at close range because they have given her some good close-range moves. I would play a combination of both, but Energy Burst takes up so much CP, combined with my common support symbols. I would probably have one of her kick combo moves if I played stricktly close range. Triple Kick would probably be preferred as my knock-away move because it sends enemies flying across the screen. I geuss i could go on and on about which moves would be effective, but I'm not sure if you're into that thing. I would like to know if anyone else has any good cancel ideas for their members? I'm trying to think of a good combination for Nel. Poision Cloud and Shadow Wave work well for good MP damage, along with poisioning the enemy. I'm going to see if I can find a good cancel for Fayt's Dimension Door.

[Kamui4356]

Originally Posted by Village Idiot

I play as Maria close combat (yes, you heard me. Close Combat with Maria) with Scatter Beam on both my close attacks and Aiming Device on my Longs and she mows everything down before Fayt and Nel could get more than one or two hits in

I play maria both close and range style. Really she's proficient at both. You can also use scatter beam at long range against larger enemies. It works well against biochimera on spiral tower level 10. I use a varity of attacks close range. Pluse blast, scatter beam, cresent lotus, and gravity bullet all work pretty well. Still against really strong enemies I stay long range, use support spells, and fire away with aiming device. It also helps that her weapon has mp recovery.

Originally Posted by Village Idiot

Spoiler:

It was mentioned in an interview with the writer of the SO series that he intends for SO3 to be the last of the series, that because with the ES becoming it's own universe and being disconnected from 4D Space, we, the 4D beings, can no longer see the events of the ES unfold any longer, thus (for him) the SO series has come to an end.

Spoiler:

THE LAST SO GAME?!!!!!!! NOOOOO!!!!!! Well that does still leave open the possibility of another one set before end of time, which should be a hint too now that I think about it....

Anyway, we need a direct sequal to so2 with ashton as the main character.

[Kamui4356]

I hate to revive an old thread, especially when I was the last one to post in it, but I had an interesting thought about the events of SO2 and how they could relate to SO3.

Spoiler for for end of so2 and so3:

In so2, the ten sages/wise men wanted to destroy the universe with the crest of annihilation. Obviously this is bad, so claude, rena, et al set out to stop them. However, in so3 we find out that the universe is really a giant video game. Luther deletes the universe, yet everyone manages to survive because their minds weren't part of the eternal sphere. Could it be possible that the ten sages figured all this out, and were trying to free the universe from the control of the 4d beings?

Of course that's very unlikely, but it's still an interesting thought, well to me anyway....

[cRoNoXz]

Just wanna ask you all, whats the title of the vocal song that came out early in the game? Its somewhere when the hero and the girl was going to roam around the resort..

[NoirKy]

You know... if you get the Ring of Vanishing (Disintergration Ring in English Ver), and go back to where you met Airyglyph's King in the desert before you fight Crossel. The left door can be opened with the Ring and you can go down there to get one of the items from Roger's scroll... Only problem... I don't know how to kill the first boss. Anyone got any suggestions? I spent like 80 hours total and still have to keep running back to heal point from the light orb enemies everytime I fight one or 2. They do so much damage early in the game.

[Kamui4356]

Originally Posted by NoirKy

You know... if you get the Ring of Vanishing (Disintergration Ring in English Ver), and go back to where you met Airyglyph's King in the desert before you fight Crossel. The left door can be opened with the Ring and you can go down there to get one of the items from Roger's scroll... Only problem... I don't know how to kill the first boss. Anyone got any suggestions? I spent like 80 hours total and still have to keep running back to heal point from the light orb enemies everytime I fight one or 2. They do so much damage early in the game.

The amoeba giant? I suggest using , fayt, cliff, and maria, with you controling Maria. it's best if you have a lot of +500 attack from orachalcum synthed to your party's weapons, but it isn't nessicary, but it helps alot. Set aiming device to both of maria's long slots, but her on berserk, and make sure you have plenty of healing items and that she knows common support symbols. let fayt and cliff do their thing, but make sure fayt doesn't do a sword enchantment. stay back and fire away with weak normal attack, weak aiming device , strong aiming device , weak aiming device, strong aiming device. That should get you a 300% cancel bonus too. Then heal anyone who needs it, let fury bulid to 100% again then repeat the process until he dies. at 80 hours into the game, your characters should be at a high enough level for this, unless you didn't play with maria at all.
edit: btw, he has 220000 hp and 25000 mp with 1150 attack. make sure you characters have the best armor you can get.
edit2: you may also want to pick up a strategy guide for the item creation and private actions. even if you never use it for anything else, it's worth it just for that

[kujoe]

Just wondering--does anything significant happen after you collect all those treasures from the Ancient Scrolls? Or is it simply just a list of items to get? And oh, any tips on how to make good use of 'Loot Item'? Who's the ideal character to give it to?

Anyway, I just want to say that I'm still pretty much enjoying this game. I'm already playing my Clear file after getting a Nel ending and it's interesting to note that...

Spoiler:

...the scene in the Urssa Lava Caves (the one wherein you have to fight clones of previous party members..) would look different depending on which ending you get. In my case, it was about Fayt and Nel waking up from a sleeping potion that Farleen and Tynave gave them so that they can have some private time for themselves or whatever.

Care to share how it's like for Maria and co.?

All in all, a good game. Great battle system, great soundtrack and thank god--character designs which aren't so terribly jarring to the eye!

Spoiler:

But as Cliff says himself--disc2 was sort of anticlimactic...

[Shinji103]

Bringing back an old thread from death to ask a question:

Is there really no way to avoid Sophia getting seperated from you in the beginning of Disc 1 all the way until Disc 2?

I just find it odd that she's supposed to be the heroine of the game, and yet is absent for more than half the story.

[Trance]

Yes, it's part of the story, you can't avoid it

[Ultima_Rasengan05]

ironically i stIll need tO finish up this game
its a good game its just tHat i lost interest after i got into plAYing Kingdom Hearts!!

[Trance]

Originally Posted by Ultima_Rasengan05

ironically i stIll need tO finish up this game
its a good game its just tHat i lost interest after i got into plAYing Kingdom Hearts!!

I took about 125 hrs to completely finish the game in the US version, still finishing the Japanese version though, gotta love the Japanese voice acting

[Gatsuuga]

i have the game, played 15 hours of it and got bored, that was exactly a year ago to this month, should i bother playing it? im just waiting for future releases now atm, namely spectrobes and final fantasy 12, two similar game genres

[Trance]

It's one of my favorite RPG's of all time, I've completed final fantasy from 7- X2 , but still working on 12 just waiting to finish the exams, but you should go on with Star Ocean, it's really something, especially when there isn't a sequel or anything related to star ocean right now or even announced I think so you can enjoy playing it slowly