Aquarion EVOL - Episode 15 Discussion / Poll

[Winged_Memories]

Where are you guys watching this ep??

[Mangaka-chan]

Man I'm kinda glad I don't ship any of the main characters, cus it sounds like the whole love pentagon(or some sort of polygon?) is a right mess as of now. >_>

[cyberdemon]

This is just a thought but perhaps Mikono overlaying Apollon's image on Kagura, rather than Apollo's, may have to do more with the the actor of Apollon being someone from her current lifetime's memories more than any kind of memories from her past life. And that Kagura is someone who reminds her a lot of him. What if that actor was maybe related to Mikono in some way like maybe Mikono was adopted by the Suzushiro family and is in fact his daughter. or something like that.

[Winged_Memories]

Originally Posted by Mangaka-chan

Man I'm kinda glad I don't ship any of the main characters, cus it sounds like the whole love pentagon(or some sort of polygon?) is a right mess as of now. >_>

HAHAHA...Only cos we do not know who is who yet...I'm pretty sure its getting closer to the revealing anyways (there is still alot more trolling from Kawamori-san on the way) so hopefully everything get's cleared up besides it wouldn't be as fun had we all known who was the reincarnation of who from the start....

NOTE: If Kawamori-san read this forum he would probably be laughing non-stop at all our theories and speculations...*makes ya just want to feed him a pinapple eh* LOL

[Zaresh]

Originally Posted by cyberdemon

This is just a thought but perhaps Mikono overlaying Apollon's image on Kagura, rather than Apollo's, may have to do more with the the actor of Apollon being someone from her current lifetime's memories more than any kind of memories from her past life. What if that actor was maybe related to Mikono in some way like maybe Mikono was adopted by the Suzushiro family and is in fact his daughter. or something like that.

At this point it would be a little out of the blue speaking in terms of storytelling, I don't think we're going to see a twist like that.

[pingva]

Originally Posted by Mangaka-chan

Man I'm kinda glad I don't ship any of the main characters, cus it sounds like the whole love pentagon(or some sort of polygon?) is a right mess as of now. >_>

The same is with me. I don't ship nor Kagura x Mikono nor Amata x Mikono nor Amata x Zessica.

[queenSwild]

Spoiler for Mikono's actions in episode 15:

Mmm.. I don't know what to think of Mikono protecting Kagura. There are good reasons for it:

1. She realizes that Kagura doesn't hate her and he actually means the opposite.
2. He's not as bad as he seems (Atleast when she's concerned).
3. When he blushes he's completely moe. ..

But then there's the bad things that makes me want to slap her:

1. He curbstomped all of her friends.
2. He killed people 2 episodes ago.
3. He's the enemy, she basically betrayed her friends.

I'm just gonna guess that she wasn't thinking correctly at the time, she was just acting by her emotions and they ordered her to help that tsundere stray dog! The way they decided to defeat Kagura probably had something to do with it aswell. It wasn't the same old gattai, robot explodes but he's still alive anyway. Nope! They were going to shoot him! Thus killing him. FOR GOOD.

She'll probably have alot of time to think about her actions next episode since it looks like she's probably gonna be punished or atleast avoided by her friends.

I'm also not really connected to any ships. xD. I'm cool with either Amata X Mikono or Kagura X Mikono and if neither of them happen then, whatever. :P

[cyberdemon]

Originally Posted by Zaresh

At this point it would be a little out of the blue speaking in terms of storytelling, I don't think we're going to see a twist like that.

Then why bring up his image now? He's just an actor playing Apollon. It doesn't really make much sense unless he has a role that is possibly similar to Alicia's. I just have a feeling that Mikono feeling familiar and nostalgic about Kagura and seeing his image on Kagura may mean she knew the person in the past.

[Winged_Memories]

BTW Anyone have spoiler picks of the ED? Apparently it has changed??

[queenSwild]

Originally Posted by Winged_Memories

BTW Anyone have spoiler picks of the ED? Apparently it has changed??

Spoiler:

Yup, it's now Yunoha-centered. :P

[Winged_Memories]

Originally Posted by queenSwild

Spoiler:

Yup, it's now Yunoha-centered. :P

True True!! Well guess I'll have to wait and see it...damn im losing sleep lucky it's the easter holidays over here hahahaha XD

[Zaresh]

Originally Posted by cyberdemon

Then why bring up his image now? He's just an actor playing Apollon. It doesn't really make much sense unless he has a role that is possibly similar to Alicia's. I just have a feeling that Mikono feeling familiar and nostalgic about Kagura and seeing his image on Kagura may mean she knew the person in the past.

Because Mikono watched that movie two times? I can't see how you people are saying he's apollonius just because Mikono overlaps Apollon on Kagura. It's pretty clear she does it because the movie, which probably is the only thing she knows about the myth. I mean, If some dude went to me saying he's, let's say, The Doctor, and he happens to look like David Tennant, he would remind me of the Doctor even if I know it's just fiction and he surely isn't a time lord XD.

If this guess about Apollon's actor would have been brought earlier in the show, I honestly would think there's a possibility of it being true because there would have been a lot of time to build it. But as I say, at this point, pretending to explain it with something so twisted and over-elaborate without previous foreshadowing it's a bit our of blue and there're easier ways of explaining Mikono's overlap.

(but it's just my opinion, so...)

[queenSwild]

Originally Posted by Zaresh

If this guess about Apollon's actor would have been brought earlier in the show, I honestly would think there's a possibility of it being true because there would have been a lot of time to build it. But as I say, at this point, pretending to explain it with something so twisted and over-elaborate without previous foreshadowing it's a bit our of blue and there're easier ways of explaining Mikono's overlap.

Yeah, I agree. If he was of any importance in the plot, then there should've been atleast some foreshadowing like Alicia had. I completely forgot about him until now.

Haha Crack theory time: What if he's Mikono's father? :P. Like how Amata always overlaps his mother with Mikono, Mikono could be doing the same thing to Kagura.xD

[kuromitsu]

So, uh, ep 15.

Spoiler for spoilers:

Kagura's power is... wtf. Hax is an understatement. So he's able to reverse powers as well??? What the hell.

FINALLY KAIEN CALLED HIM OUT ON THE KUSO ONNA THING, GO KAIEN!!! what am I talking about, Kagura reverses his punch. Okay.

He reverses Amata's flight. Seriously. Ooh, Shrade with his... invisible violin... ooookay.... ^^;; good, maybe he'll have a chance... no, he won't. -_-) Yes, yes, reversing the gear. This is getting ridiculous now, and not in a good way. (Dude, Kagura, you could've killed her, you know...?)

At this point I just don't get when Kagura speaks normally and when in reverse, what he understands normally and what in reverse. He told Mikono that he "lied" only to her but then what was that disappointed expression when he caught Mix then threw her away, saying "she smells good, too"? That was also in reverse... wasn't it? Also, when he said "lie" he must've been speaking in reverse so, he's actually speaking the truth??? I have a feeling the writers didn't really think this through. ^^;;;

Also, dere Kagura and worried-about-Mikono Kagura is cute and all, and they had a good atmosphere going on, but then Kagura had to get possessive... The "I AM APOLLON, YOU ARE SYLPHIE AND YOU BELONG TO ME" thing was very creepy and totally killed the mood as far as I'm concerned. I don't know if it was intentional or they thought it was actually romantic, but uuuhhh.... no, no thank you.

FINALLY, Mykage finally started talking about the Tree of Life. Okay, we're on track now.

........and why does Zessica know all about that....? The vision is one thing, knowing the entire mythology is another...

DUDE, AMATA. YOU CAN FLY. WHY ARE YOU RUNNING? ^^;;; Okay, finally he's being all cool and whatnot. Wait...


ESCAFLOWNE?????!!!! WHAT THE HELL???! o____O)

or is it just Kanno plagiarizinig herself? ^^;; I'll take a listen to the OST after this...


Augh, poor Amata being in heroic sacrifice mode. Aaand power up? Amata being all heroine-like? ^^;; But that detachment thing doesn't sound well... though I guess if Fudou says it must be so then it must be so?

So like, Kagura was shot in the shoulder(?), why the hell is he bleeding from his mouth? I know, rhetoric question. ^^;; (Also, Cayenne is a pretty shitty marksman if he couldn't kill him from that distance. Okay, okay, I know, I know.)

Blah blah blah, don't shoot him, forgive him - btw that sounded like it was about more than just this kidnapping incident. I wonder what was behind it, though I guess Mikono herself doesn't know either. She wasn't taken away, but apparently the damage is done, so I think black wedding - check.

Uh, the preview. "The smell of a destiny of 12 000 years... Entrust yourself to this stench, Sylphie. If you fight it you'll just get hurt." UUUGH, CREEPY. o__O)

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE DEMONWOLF?? Why don't you say anything about that, Mykage? ;_; )

And wtf was this ED? O__O) It has like... absolutely nothing to do with the episode? Like, at all...? (They must be regretting not giving Jin and Yunoha a bigger role, huh.)

......now let's find out about that BGM....

Btw, today's Shrade. XDDDD

[Winged_Memories]

Originally Posted by kuromitsu

So, uh, ep 15.

Spoiler for spoilers:

Kagura's power is... wtf. Hax is an understatement. So he's able to reverse powers as well??? What the hell.

FINALLY KAIEN CALLED HIM OUT ON THE KUSO ONNA THING, GO KAIEN!!! what am I talking about, Kagura reverses his punch. Okay.

He reverses Amata's flight. Seriously, Ooh, Shrade with his... invisible violin... ooookay.... ^^;; good, maybe he'll have a chance... no, he won't. -_-) Yes, yes, reversing the gear. This is getting ridiculous now, and not in a good way. (Dude, Kagura, you could've killed her, you know...?)

At this point I just don't get when Kagura speaks normally and when in reverse, what he understands normally and what in reverse. He told Mikono that he "lied" only to her but then what was that disappointed expression when he caught Mix then threw her away, saying "she smells good, too"? That was also in reverse... wasn't it?

Also, dere Kagura and worried-about-Mikono Kagura is cute and all, and they had a good atmosphere going on, but then Kagura had to get possessive... The "I AM APOLLON, YOU ARE SYLPHIE AND YOU BELONG TO ME" thing was very creepy and totally killed the mood as far as I'm concerned. I don't know if it was intentional or they thought it was actually romantic, but uuuhhh.... no, no thank you.

FINALLY, Mykage finally started talking about the Tree of Life. Okay, we're on track now.

........and why does Zessica know all about that....? The vision is one thing, knowing the entire mythology is another...

DUDE, AMATA. YOU CAN FLY. WHY ARE YOU RUNNING? ^^;;; Okay, finally he's being all cool and whatnot. Wait...


ESCAFLOWNE?????!!!! WHAT THE HELL???! o____O)

or is it just Kanno plagiarizinig herself? ^^;; I'll take a listen to the OST after this...


Augh, poor Amata being in heroic sacrifice mode. Aaand power up? Amata being all heroine-like? ^^;; But that detachment thing doesn't sound well... though I guess if Fudou says it must be so then it must be so?

So like, Kagura was shot in the shoulder(?), why the hell is he bleeding from his mouth? I know, rhetoric question. ^^;;

Blah blah blah, don't shoot him, forgive him - btw that sounded like it was about more than just this case. I wonder what was behind it, though I guess Mikono herself doesn't know either. She wasn't taken away, but apparently the damage is done, so I think black wedding - check.

Uh, the preview. "Entrust yourself to this stench, Sylphie. If you fight it you'll just get hurt." UUUGH, CREEPY. o__O)

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE DEMONWOLF?? Why don't you say anything about that, Mykage? ;_; )

And wtf was this ED? O__O) It has like... absolute nothing to do with the episode? Like, at all...? (They must be regretting not giving Jin and Yunoha a bigger role, huh.)

......now let's find out about that BGM....

Btw, today's Shrade. XDDDD

SPOILERS

LOL...WOW rage much??!! I have to agree with you on the Amata running bit I was like WTH just fly over there you idiot and hurry up before he takes Mikono away completely!!!...I'm thinking Zessica did a bit of research after she had that vision via the mirror...that...or...she knows more than she is letting on? Kagura prob bled from his mouth when he hit the floor? LOL and omg my heart was wrenching when Amata was all beat up...if you can't distinguish Kagura's normal speech from his reversal speech then Mykage has done an excellent job at manipulating and screwing him up (but then again what's really normal with Kagura?)...And what was with that evil smirk on Kagura's face before he was whisked away by Mykage again? I get the feeling Kagura isn't being truthful or is hiding/plotting something ( no matter how moe or damn sexy smokin hot he is in this episode)...next episode I think Mikono will be recollecting her encounter with (hottie Kagura - wtf of course she'll be doing that) but I dont think she'll go as far as betraying Neo Deava so I think Kagura (or even Mykage) will have to force her to go to Altair...By the way does it seem that history is repeating itself? The last part of this episode and the next one (assuming Mikono does get abducted this time) is like when Sirius went to Atlantia, and tried to persuade Sylvia to go as well (...somewhere along those episodes).

[mixordia]

I only know one thing, when this song started playing I melted ...

[kuromitsu]

Haha, no rage on my part,

Spoiler for spoiler:

I'm just O______O over the whole "YOU BELONG TO ME" thing (I mean his behavior). Because gah, that was damn creepy. If they just stuck to Kagura being all dere and whatnot I wouldn't have any problems, but the possessiveness and the preview had abusive overtones liek whoa. I hope the writers are aware of that... (It doesn't help that he was holding Mikono captive at the time.)

Also, his power is way, WAAAAAY too strong. It was nice that Amata could finally power up enough to deflect it to a degree, but with this power the fights are completely unbalanced.

Spoiler for Re: Zessica:

I suppose she did do some research, but where and when? And from what book, isn't the Book of Twin Stars still lost? Or she just watched the movie and had an epiphany? But then why doesn't Amata know about it? ^^;; Yet again, the writing problems raise their ugly heads...

[MUAHAHAHAHAHA]

Originally Posted by Mangaka-chan

Man I'm kinda glad I don't ship any of the main characters, cus it sounds like the whole love pentagon(or some sort of polygon?) is a right mess as of now. >_>

I agree, cause Kawamori might just pull a prank on us and I sincerely believe he will. The only pairing I ship is AndyxMix. Seems safe enough, assuming they are each other's destined half.

[mayumi]

Originally Posted by kuromitsu

Spoiler for Re: Zessica:

I suppose she did do some research, but where and when? And from what book, isn't the Book of Twin Stars still lost? Or she just watched the movie and had an epiphany? But then why doesn't Amata know about it? ^^;; Yet again, the writing problems raise their ugly heads...

Spoiler:

zessica is either rena or mikage implanted memories. it would make sense with the book in the ED being paired up with zessica that she is rena, or the tree of life cause she starts talking about how apollon and silvie separated cause they wanted to save the tree.
she is also pretty much adamant that apollon and silvie belong together.

[kuromitsu]

Btw I found the BGM piece on Aquarion OST II so I guess it was just Kanno plagiarizing herself. I dunno if that's good or bad. ^^;; (I guess it's better than actually using a piece from a completely different show...)