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View Poll Results: Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans - Episode 29 Rating
Perfect 10 7 28.00%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 12 48.00%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 2 8.00%
7 out of 10 : Good 3 12.00%
6 out of 10 : Average 1 4.00%
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Old 2016-10-23, 08:58   Link #21
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While it's nice to see that Orga still doesn't tolerate any threats to the group, I am starting to see Naze's point. It worked this time because Orga was holding all the cards, but I'm interested to seeing how Orga acts in a situation where that isn't the case. I don't think allying McGillis was a good call ,but only time will tell.

It'll be interesting to see how Hush will do with Mika as his mentor.
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Old 2016-10-23, 08:59   Link #22
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That was intense, Mika is still a badass as I remember from the previous season and in this sequel, he does not disappoint.

Idk how I feel about McGillis' alliance with Tekkadan. I mean, they could benefit from it but how well can they work together?

Glad to see Naze again as well this episode.
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Shino's gonna get his Gundam Frame MS
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Seriously...quadrupedal tapping.
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Man I wish I could accidentally excavate a Gundam.
now imagine how Setsuna reacts when he somehow manages to excavate a Gundam, uh....in his backyard?
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I mean, they could benefit from it but how well can they work together?
Probably as well as a business partner? If there's one thing McG can deliver, it's the profit for Tekkadan (for now). I'm guessing McG will point to more factions who oppose him for Tekkadan to take care of (with backings and handsome rewards in return) until McG reached the position that he wants. After that, who knows? If McG is sincere with his goal of cleaning up Gjallarhorn and make a better world, no clash with Tekkadan is needed. The problem is, if he has some underlying nefarious plan that won't sit well with Tekkadan.

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Man I wish I could accidentally excavate a Gundam.
Well, in order for it to come true, our world history must establish that there has been a big war hundreds or thousands of years ago involving ancient giant robots that nearly wiped out mankind .
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Old 2016-10-23, 09:24   Link #27
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Soo there's a Mountain Cycle at Mars? Gotta add that to the Turn A Dark History info...
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Its probably the MA we been getting hints at from the gunpla.
The description of the kit on amiami says that it includes new weapon parts for Barbatos Lupus, so I guess it's safe to say it's Mika's next powerup.
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Naze is right, Orga needs be less heavy handed with way he solves things. Also allying with McG doesn't sound like good idea... but it's very much Orga like for better or worse.
Ironically, now that Gjallarhorn has his back, Orga can afford to be even more heavy-handed, although in the long run, it's definitely not a good idea.

That ties in with Naze mentioning that Orga is not particularly good with pure politics. Which means Orga needs a quick-witted advisor with a good grasp on the political side of things (Biscuit, you're missed dearly). Merribit specializes in business-related stuff, not in politics. Of course, Naze is intent to be there to help, but, considering that he's the guy who has his own enemies to deal with, too, he can't be there on Mars all the time, and I think his main expertise is probably Teiwaz's side of things and the Jupiter outersphere, he seemed less of an expert on the intricacies of Earthian, much less Martian politics.

McGillis is an excellent politician, but the problem is he absolutely cannot be trusted. After all, we're talking about a guy who had no qualms using his childhood friends for his schemes and, as a result, killing them (well, in case he really doesn't know that Gaelio has survived).

So, it brings us to the next question: does Tekkadan have an ally they can trust that's good at politics? In fact, they do. Kudelia, who has already shown how quickly and thoroughly she can grasp a political situation (Makanai's in particular when she had learned all about the inner workings of his faction). Heck, politics is her precise specialization, and her company and Tekkadan are as close as business partners can get already, having even established an orphanage together. Moreover, the determination she stated in this episode basically amounts to her drive to get better at politics and diplomacy. As such, she can help Tekkadan with developing their half-metal mine (since she's already established a company that deals in it) and play the role of a political advisor to Orga so he won't get too reckless and burned as a result (although she's one reckless girl herself lol) So, as far as I'm concerned, everything clicks, and if I'm right and this is what her role will be, I'm really looking forward to it.



Another thing that jumped at me upon rewatching the episode is the focus on Mika first staring at Mars beneath his feet (and commenting that McG looks tired, while seemingly not looking at McG at all... meaning one initial glance at him was enough for Mika to grasp it) and then at Orga throughout their meeting with McGillis. With Mika, you never know what he's thinking, so I'm lost as to the meaning of them focusing on Mika's starting at Orga in that scene (getting doubts about Orga's chosen course of action?) and then showing his face as he seemed to have arrive to some kind of conclusion or determination, but there definitely has to be some meaning.
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Soo there's a Mountain Cycle at Mars? Gotta add that to the Turn A Dark History info...
Not until they managed to dig a Zaku

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That ties in with Naze mentioning that Orga is not particularly good with pure politics. Which means Orga needs a quick-witted advisor with a good grasp on the political side of things (Biscuit, you're missed dearly). Merribit specializes in business-related stuff, not in politics. Of course, Naze is intent to be there to help, but, considering that he's the guy who has his own enemies to deal with, too, he can't be there on Mars all the time, and I think his main expertise is probably Teiwaz's side of things and the Jupiter outersphere, he seemed less of an expert on the intricacies of Earthian, much less Martian politics.

McGillis is an excellent politician, but the problem is he absolutely cannot be trusted. After all, we're talking about a guy who had no qualms using his childhood friends for his schemes and, as a result, killing them (well, in case he really doesn't know that Gaelio has survived).

So, it brings us to the next question: does Tekkadan have an ally they can trust that's good at politics? In fact, they do. Kudelia, who has already shown how quickly and thoroughly she can grasp a political situation (Makanai's in particular when she had learned all about the inner workings of his faction). Heck, politics is her precise specialization, and her company and Tekkadan are as close as business partners can get already, having even established an orphanage together. Moreover, the determination she stated in this episode basically amounts to her drive to get better at politics and diplomacy. As such, she can help Tekkadan with developing their half-metal mine (since she's already established a company that deals in it) and play the role of a political advisor to Orga so he won't get too reckless and burned as a result (although she's one reckless girl herself lol) So, as far as I'm concerned, everything clicks, and if I'm right and this is what her role will be, I'm really looking forward to it.
That's what I was thinking too. I just hope Okada & Nagai can pull it off with a good execution.
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Old 2016-10-23, 09:37   Link #30
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man, Mika gives me shivers when he utters "its hard taking the enemy alive" as Sandoval surrenders, he wasn't even thinking to spare him from the start, then again followed by him shooting Allium to blood spatters without any second thoughts, he's still Mika despite his progress in his farming studies,

also Shino's dream of owning a Gundam came true? along with a missive Mobile Armor conveniently buried under the mine that was gifted to Tekkadan by Teiwaz, so i guess that Tekkadan now has three Gundams in total, Robo-Gaelio might need more fire power for his own Gundam & his subordinates to counter that.
When your opposition consist of uppity nobility masquerading as a PMC, suicidal child soldiers with no hope of escaoing their rotten situation and people who make Earth Alliance look good. It is hard to see them get out alive. Remember the human debris who kept charging at Mika?
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Another episode of Gundam has come and gone, and my review is here as usual. I am a bit surprise by the discovery at the end, but I swear that they better not give it to Hush.
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That ties in with Naze mentioning that Orga is not particularly good with pure politics. Which means Orga needs a quick-witted advisor with a good grasp on the political side of things (Biscuit, you're missed dearly). Merribit specializes in business-related stuff, not in politics. Of course, Naze is intent to be there to help, but, considering that he's the guy who has his own enemies to deal with, too, he can't be there on Mars all the time, and I think his main expertise is probably Teiwaz's side of things and the Jupiter outersphere, he seemed less of an expert on the intricacies of Earthian, much less Martian politics.

McGillis is an excellent politician, but the problem is he absolutely cannot be trusted. After all, we're talking about a guy who had no qualms using his childhood friends for his schemes and, as a result, killing them (well, in case he really doesn't know that Gaelio has survived).

So, it brings us to the next question: does Tekkadan have an ally they can trust that's good at politics? In fact, they do. Kudelia, who has already shown how quickly and thoroughly she can grasp a political situation (Makanai's in particular when she had learned all about the inner workings of his faction). Heck, politics is her precise specialization, and her company and Tekkadan are as close as business partners can get already, having even established an orphanage together. Moreover, the determination she stated in this episode basically amounts to her drive to get better at politics and diplomacy. As such, she can help Tekkadan with developing their half-metal mine (since she's already established a company that deals in it) and play the role of a political advisor to Orga so he won't get too reckless and burned as a result (although she's one reckless girl herself lol) So, as far as I'm concerned, everything clicks, and if I'm right and this is what her role will be, I'm really looking forward to it.
I think that might be a good idea to bring in Kudelia for the politics side, though I'm not sure if she would be able to hand politics that deal with less dubious organizations such as the space mafia since she doesn't know that world as well. But since she is part of the Tekkadan family, she is one I think they can trust. However, I would find it interesting if McGillis actually taught her a thing or two about how to hand the much darker side of politics especially when it comes to the military. She wants to try to create a better world less steeped in violence, and if so, she's going to have to deal with groups like Gjallerhorn and that whole pit of corruptive snakes.

Though if McGillis is truly after what he says he's after, then I can honestly see him taking care of that side of things. Though to be honest, from the way that he seems to act as if he has nothing to lose, I have a feeling like McGillis himself doesn't expect to come out this whole Gjallerhorn retrofitting alive himself. I can see him taking out all 7 of the Seven Star families, including his own, and giving control of such a group to someone even better than him...someone like Kudelia? He talked quite a bit in the first season about how his hopes were lying on Kudelia and Tekkadan. I can see him faking his death and giving control to someone more worthy once he's done what he's set out to do.

I've always found it interesting that despite his means, McGillis' goals that he's stated to others and to himself, are never selfish. He wants to create a better world by turning Gjallerhorn back to what it should have always been. However, to do that, he has a huge amount of corruption to get rid of, and he's had to break some eggs to make that omelet. Even some eggs that were once precious to him. We'll have to see how that will work later on.

I'm honestly expecting for both McGillis and Tekkadan to be set up in some way and to get framed for something that will put them on the defensive. Right now, they are on top of the world. But too many people are jealous of them, too many want vengeance. And now if their allied, if one goes down, they will take the other with them. For now, McGillis and Tekkadan are in this together. We'll have to see if they can walk into the fire and come out unscathed.

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Another thing that jumped at me upon rewatching the episode is the focus on Mika first staring at Mars beneath his feet (and commenting that McG looks tired, while seemingly not looking at McG at all... meaning one initial glance at him was enough for Mika to grasp it) and then at Orga throughout their meeting with McGillis. With Mika, you never know what he's thinking, so I'm lost as to the meaning of them focusing on Mika's starting at Orga in that scene (getting doubts about Orga's chosen course of action?) and then showing his face as he seemed to have arrive to some kind of conclusion or determination, but there definitely has to be some meaning.
Mika's always been very perceptive, even though he says he's not. To him, it's natural. As for why Mika was watching Orga, I think it goes way back to that whole basis of their co-dependant relationship. How Orga was saying that Mika is always watching him. But I don't think he doubts what Orga was about to do, if he did, he would have said something. He is nothing if not blunt. And Orga knows this, it's why many of his decisions hinge on Mika's approval. Even back when they were going to do the coup, he said that if Mika was against it, they would cancel. But Mika trust Orga, even more than most would ever trust anyone, but he's not afraid to tell Orga what he thinks either.

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That's what I was thinking too, when I saw it. Mika went from double-tap to quadruple-tap, and this time, with less working arms.

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Idk how I feel about McGillis' alliance with Tekkadan. I mean, they could benefit from it but how well can they work together?
We'll they've worked together before, so it will probably be similar to that but more open. McGillis has quite a level of respect for Tekkadan and while Orga doesn't trust him, he doesn't dislike him either. Also Mika and McGillis have a connection of sorts as well that will be interesting to see in further interactions.
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Old 2016-10-23, 10:03   Link #33
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The description of the kit on amiami says that it includes new weapon parts for Barbatos Lupus, so I guess it's safe to say it's Mika's next powerup.
Ironically, now that Gjallarhorn has his back, Orga can afford to be even more heavy-handed, although in the long run, it's definitely not a good idea.

That ties in with Naze mentioning that Orga is not particularly good with pure politics. Which means Orga needs a quick-witted advisor with a good grasp on the political side of things (Biscuit, you're missed dearly). Merribit specializes in business-related stuff, not in politics. Of course, Naze is intent to be there to help, but, considering that he's the guy who has his own enemies to deal with, too, he can't be there on Mars all the time, and I think his main expertise is probably Teiwaz's side of things and the Jupiter outersphere, he seemed less of an expert on the intricacies of Earthian, much less Martian politics.

McGillis is an excellent politician, but the problem is he absolutely cannot be trusted. After all, we're talking about a guy who had no qualms using his childhood friends for his schemes and, as a result, killing them (well, in case he really doesn't know that Gaelio has survived).

So, it brings us to the next question: does Tekkadan have an ally they can trust that's good at politics? In fact, they do. Kudelia, who has already shown how quickly and thoroughly she can grasp a political situation (Makanai's in particular when she had learned all about the inner workings of his faction). Heck, politics is her precise specialization, and her company and Tekkadan are as close as business partners can get already, having even established an orphanage together. Moreover, the determination she stated in this episode basically amounts to her drive to get better at politics and diplomacy. As such, she can help Tekkadan with developing their half-metal mine (since she's already established a company that deals in it) and play the role of a political advisor to Orga so he won't get too reckless and burned as a result (although she's one reckless girl herself lol) So, as far as I'm concerned, everything clicks, and if I'm right and this is what her role will be, I'm really looking forward to it.
Kudelia also has her own things to deal with, and the politics Naze spoke of were the politics of organized crime. I don't know how much of her training carries over.

For that matter, the whole mess with Dawn Horizon was brought about because she misjudged how far the Terra guy would and could go over his slighted pride.

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Old 2016-10-23, 10:09   Link #34
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McGillis and Tekkadan works provided McGillis doesn't have any ulterior motives beyond reform. The alliance I suppose provides a steady paycheck for Tekkadan. Granted I don't see McGillis getting a happy ending in this tale. Put it be pretty good real world commentary if he does win.

I assume Kudelia is going to brought in for Politics. Right now she is basically tangential to the main plot and her running a mining company is going to be boring and irrelevant for the most part. They need to inject her back into the thick of things. Plus even if Tekkadan wins and there is Peace or whatever does anyone really see Kudelia sitting on a farm. Someone has to run the government of whatever New World Order they create. So Mika and Atra probably do retire to run farms but I don't see Kudelia or Orga doing that.

As for the piloting. Hard to rate anyone in my book. Although don't know why the grunts were whining about Kujan if he was going to be sniping from extreme long range. Seems pretty safe to me. Still he didn't look like a chump ala Carta. Itsurugi and Jullieta were pretty good I guess. Mika is right but I think the capturing was easier because Sandavol was willing to surrender. If your fighting someone who doesn't want to back down the job is way harder especially in space.

I am guessing Hush gets the Gundam and Shino gets the Mobile Armor. However, I still haven't seen a single thing from Hush that suggest ace pilot in the making. Sure he wants to get stronger then Mika but he didn't exactly shine in a Mobile Worker whereas the Devil and Guts were shown to be elite even when they were in just Mobile Workers. Plus he doesn't have AV which granted you don't need to be elite. But Hush is starting today essentially whereas Ace pilots from Gjhallahorn with no AV probably started training as little kids.
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Another good episode. The 3 way battle kept things fresh while the bluntness of the aftermath kept the tension up.

An of course, the promise of a new Gundam frame makes things even more interesting. Though I do wonder if the Teiwaz boss knew about it and that's why he was so adamant to give Tekkadan the mine.
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That's what I was thinking too. I just hope Okada & Nagai can pull it off with a good execution.
Fingers crossed Based on the first season, I do have certain hopes
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Though if McGillis is truly after what he says he's after, then I can honestly see him taking care of that side of things. Though to be honest, from the way that he seems to act as if he has nothing to lose, I have a feeling like McGillis himself doesn't expect to come out this whole Gjallerhorn retrofitting alive himself. I can see him taking out all 7 of the Seven Star families, including his own, and giving control of such a group to someone even better than him...someone like Kudelia? He talked quite a bit in the first season about how his hopes were lying on Kudelia and Tekkadan. I can see him faking his death and giving control to someone more worthy once he's done what he's set out to do.
The only issue I see with this is that Gjallarhorn is basically the police, right? Kudelia wants to uphold justice, sure, but is she really fit to be the head of a police organization that, in addition to politics, has to mete out punishment? For now, I don't know, I guess it will depend on her development in this season.
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I'm honestly expecting for both McGillis and Tekkadan to be set up in some way and to get framed for something that will put them on the defensive. Right now, they are on top of the world. But too many people are jealous of them, too many want vengeance. And now if their allied, if one goes down, they will take the other with them. For now, McGillis and Tekkadan are in this together. We'll have to see if they can walk into the fire and come out unscathed.
Good things never last, eh. I, too, expect not only our masked man GaliGali burning for revenge to screw up things for them soon but Teiwaz as well (too much emphasis was put on Teiwaz's second-in-command whatshisname being displeased with the young upstarts for him not to get a drop on them somewhere down the line).
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Mika's always been very perceptive, even though he says he's not. To him, it's natural. As for why Mika was watching Orga, I think it goes way back to that whole basis of their co-dependent relationship. How Orga was saying that Mika is always watching him. But I don't think he doubts what Orga was about to do, if he did, he would have said something. He is nothing if not blunt. And Orga knows this, it's why many of his decisions hinge on Mika's approval. Even back when they were going to do the coup, he said that if Mika was against it, they would cancel. But Mika trust Orga, even more than most would ever trust anyone, but he's not afraid to tell Orga what he thinks either.
So it's basically a reaffirmation of their peculiar relationship of co-dependance and Mika resolving to uphold his side of their deal, i.e. to be Orga's sword? Okay, I can go with that.
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Kudelia also has her own things to deal with, and the politics Naze spoke of were the politics of organized crime. I don't know how much of her training carries over.

For that matter, the whole mess with Dawn Horizon was brought about because she misjudge how far the Terra guy would and could go over his slighted pride.
That's why she needs to grow and develop, and the current episode set up the path for her growth as a politician, so I think familiarizing herself with the darker side through helping Tekkadan deal with their ever growing enemies is going to be part of it. Taking lessons from McGillis, like Irenesharda suggested, would do wonders, too, if McGillis would be so kind as to teach her a little (maybe Makanai will be willing, too?) And then we'll get a competent female politician to make up for that worse-than-average Fleur woman from the previous season, yay!

And anyway, now that Tekkadan and McGillis with his part of GH (a sort of a police/government hybrid) are allied, Tekkadan will have to deal with the whole range of politics, from organized crime to governmental ruses (because, as Orga said, the moment they allied, McGillis' enemies, who are all from that corrupt police/government hybrid that is Gjallarhorn, became Tekkadan's enemies). Kudelia's shown herself capable of handling conventional politics with a bit of using the space mafia, Teiwaz, on the side. All politics is a snake pit in any area, where the goal is always to one-up your opponent somehow, the difference between conventional politics and organized mafia's is the methods, in my understanding, the mafia's ones are dirtier and more ruthless, so once Kudelia gets her bearings, she should be pretty effective there, too. And in any case, having her is better than Tekkadan's current nothing.
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That's what I was thinking too, when I saw it. Mika went from double-tap to quadruple-tap, and this time, with less working arms.
I mean, he gotta compensate for the useless arm & eye. Improving his double-tap into quad-tap is one way .

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For that matter, the whole mess with Dawn Horizon was brought about because she misjudge how far the Terra guy would and could go over his slighted pride.
And she realized that and determined to improve herself. Who knows, if her business coincides with Tekkadan, she might help them even if it means playing politics with various shady groups while learning how to deal with them which pretty much what she did in season 1. And don't forget that she herself was dealing with Gordon Nobliss who is as shady as McMurdo (if not more).
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I hope Hush does some work on a simulator before getting into an actual MS battle. Azee and lafter could teach him since they both don't have the AV.
This episode was just awesome. I was expecting a cooldown episode after last weeks huge battle but I was wrong. . . THANK GOD I WAS WRONG lol
Although it seems next episode will be more chill and laid back.
Really loved the music being played during the scene where mikka kills that terra whatever guy. So tense and somewhat eerie.
Ioks sniper gun is effing awesome. The new graze is a definite step up from the predecessor.
That episode was very enjoyable.
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Woot, that's Flauros they're talking isn't it?

Mika being Mika, never change bro.

I'm staring to agree with Naze, Orga's constant heavy handed approach is bound to get Tekkadan in hot water Teiwaz won't be able to pull them out. It's good that he's driven to achieving their goals but that same drive is starting to look like his own weakness.
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Mikazuki sees great things in Hush and Hush ? you need to understand buddy this how Tekkadan works don't be getting cold feet now, this what it means to be a solider your starting today your member of the commando unite, so don't embarrass senpai okay

( everyone here thread wants you do your best hush)


Also they found two Gundam frames ? that what the guy ( forgot his name ) said
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