2008-10-12, 00:44 | Link #61 | |
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As darkprimus said, with the decay of protons, it takes a long time to breakdown. Thus an accelerant catalyst is need to prompt those protons to breakdown rapidly. The question I'm posing is, what if solar radiation, was focused in a specific manner in a process to metaphorically 'spark' that accelerated reaction in the first place? And since these GN Core Elements seem to be perpetual, closed circuit, energy reactions, maybe all it would need is a one time exposure or initialization via direct Solar Radiation to begin. And since it has the TD Blanket which seems to recycle everything within the core element, that could conceivably include the initial burst of solar radiation. Thus, pepetually looping the initial exposure and sustaining the reaction. Remember, the power / energy output of the drive is derived from released photons and positrons. Not solar energy. So, I'm not contradicting myself, I'm just saying it was an ingredient in the process. It's not the same as saying the GN Reactors are Solar Reactors. That was what I was getting at. |
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2008-10-12, 02:17 | Link #62 | |
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2008-10-12, 02:47 | Link #64 |
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Some CE suits can perform atmospheric entry on their own. Case in point, Strike, Freedom, Strike Freedom, and Infinite Justice. But really, it depends. The only thing really advanced in AD is the GN-Drive, with its GN-Particle, which is multipurpose in its design. CE, on the other than, has its own multipurpose particle, as well as a special armor system that negates damage caused by physical weaponry, etc, which hasn't really been seen in AD.
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2008-10-12, 03:12 | Link #65 | |
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So then, I'll just have to disagree. Logically speaking, you don't say that two platforms that produce the same product, yet work on two completely different principles, work and function the same way. The english language and the japanese language, just are not that obscure... The only explaination that makes any sense, is that GN Alpha and GN Tau Drives are fudamentally the same. Except that the Alpha drives have an extra component that is the culmination of Celestial Being's technology. The TD Blanket. They would work exactly the same way, it's just that the Alpha drives are all that much more powerful because it has a peice of technology that taps into Quantum Physics, which could be the most powerful level of physics that we'll ever discover. That said, in regards to the Charging statement. There are any number of meanings for the word 'Charge,' 'Charging,' 'Recharge,' and 'Recharging.' Look it up sometime... Dictionary.com will provide you typically close to 50 various uses, and it is not simply a reference to electrical charging. And the fact is, they don't say in the Anime what they're actually charging the Tau Drives with. Now, I know that the model manuals that were created in conjunction with the creative design team of the series, may say that it's electrical power, and yes, I typically agree that those manuals are connonical sources. However, when it's not directly established or even really concretely supported through the primary cannon source, the series itself, I find those sources suspect and I analyze them more critically. But the model manuals and other similar sources are not the end all be all of series cannon, because we're talking about material produced by a completely different group then the actual series creators. Beyond that, I've been over the matter of the inefficiency and impracticality of using electrical batteries to create GN Particles in the other thread. We'd be talking about some truly mind boggling battery technology... No, scratch that, nie impossible, battery technology, to provide not only the electrical power for the majority of the mobilesuit's onboard systems, but to create 'from scratch' GN Particles by the trillions, ontop of that, and fit the battery itself onto the frame of a mobilesuit. Basically, right now. Today. We can hardly destroy lone sub-atomic particles. Be it through super colliders or centrifuges. It takes a 'hell' of alot of power to destroy a single particle. Now, in order to create a particle from nothing, you'd have to have an equal amout of power to what was required to destroy an indentical particle... ... ! Okay! okay... ! We're talking about soo much power, that in the EU recently, a court injunction was just ordered to stop the largest super collider test ever to destroy single particles at a time, because a good portion of the scientific community believes the resultant release of energy could be enough to blow half or more of the Earth away.... We're not talking about particles that you could create with a Duracel battery! There is, and there likely never will be in the next thousand years, a battery with the capacity to create even a single particle from nothingness, and yet be small enough to mount on a mobilesuit. Capiche? I guess, what I'm saying, is that from a practical scientific and engineering point of view, it's completely improbable for the Tau Drives to be nothing more then gloriffied batteries. And that's what you're proposing they are. |
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2008-10-12, 04:02 | Link #67 |
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Sorry guys, mind to put references to your sources?? like, it is mentioned in episode XX or in offical gundam 00 mechnic report book, printing with model kit XX aso. It is basically to give us a proper foundation and people the possibility to trace back where the information is coming from. Because at the moment it is kind of hard to seperation between official information and speculation made up by a lose end.
BTW i'm talking about references to Gundam 00 (universe) data, not real science. |
2008-10-12, 06:38 | Link #68 | |
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p.s: I read the name of the Gundam armor in this forum but I forget where I read it. |
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2008-10-12, 07:35 | Link #69 | |
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However, CB may be using GN Particle tech to enhance the defensive power of E-Carbon, an example being GN Composite Armor, which is E-Carbon that sandwhiches a layer of GN Particles to enhance it's defensive power (first tested on the Gundam Plutone).
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2008-10-12, 09:40 | Link #70 | |
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I already know what radioactive waste is. I'm testing you, because you obviously don't know.
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2008-10-12, 11:07 | Link #71 |
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Now that we see the twin gn drives in 00 act as barriers, we can safely assume that the docked position of the 0-riser isn't as suicidal. Which leans towards the 0-riser requiring a pilot, although I assume the 00 with the 0-riser has an extra weapons or guidance system if the 0-riser required a pilot. Unless... it's just one big automated fang/funnel/bit-like mobile armor.
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2008-10-12, 12:33 | Link #74 |
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I mean this is just for activating the damn thing, right?
numbers in the circles are the output percentage on the GN drives, next to those the percentage of GN particles that have been funneled into twin drive chambers from each furnace based on their capacity, center is how much is in the twin drive's furnace. when the center number gets to 100% the reaction starts and whatever crazy resonance effects the twin drive has kicks in. sound reasonable enough? |
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You need to stop seeing things that are not stated. There are no such things as GN Alpha drives, only normal GN drives and GN T drives. I make NO statement about electricity in any of my posts. I have not made my own conjecture, I have only repeated information to you about what others have mentioned in the Throne Drei manual. If you want to argue about weird science, try explaining how GN particles manipulate the effects of gravity through weight re-distribution (Throne Zwei manual). Go ask on MAHQ, they have more tech heads than this board.
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Or yeah, 00 is ^2 more GN particles, so it can have really powerful beam weaponry. (and CB has the tech to make such high powered beam weapons) either way. |
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2008-10-12, 13:24 | Link #79 | |
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2008-10-12, 16:22 | Link #80 | |
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Unfortunately, we don't really have comparable situation with CE universe. However, one thing that I would probably have to bring the situation up is when Impulse stab Freedom with ASS's tip in GSD ep 34. I know that scene is still disputable (some say that the entire ASS including the tip is covered with the beam even though the scene does not show that), but it does not really rule out the possibility that if you put enough pressure over and over again, even the Phase shift armor will fail. After all, the way the phase armor works is by running some sort of energy to protect the armor like (in AD, Gundams likely use GN particlew to enhance the E-carbon). So logically if you put a lot of pressure to the PSA, you will eventually drain the energy and overcome the PSA itself. |
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