2009-10-07, 13:32 | Link #122 |
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This series screwed Physic itself. Look back to episode 1, if the think that Mikito threw at Touma is electric or lightning than it will travel with the speed of light, how could Touma fast enough to block something like that. BTW have you see in real life that any equipment capable of fire a energy blast ?
Moreover, in this series, some self-proclaim ESP power are too unrealistic like Kuroko 's teleport any body knew how it work, the term teleport itself are too unrealistc. Last edited by hayate-sama; 2009-10-07 at 14:02. |
2009-10-07, 13:50 | Link #123 | |
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Considering the fact of the force of the recoil that should hit Mikoto when she used a railgun, I think your argument is quite valid. Aaah ~ this thread is so confusing @_@
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2009-10-07, 14:25 | Link #124 | ||
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Not really familiar with Warhammer. I'm more familiar with WoW spacegoats and Goblin/Gnome engineering though (I believe you're familiar with these too ).
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2009-10-07, 15:02 | Link #126 | ||
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Yes I am. Orkish engineering works a tad differently though. Most of the time they just bang sheets of metal together, and somehow get things to work. Meanhwile, if some other race picks up such an Orkish device, they can't get it to work no matter what they try. |
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2009-10-08, 15:57 | Link #127 | |
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Not all Ork engineering is that heavily psychic Fiat. Commissar Cain and company acquire and use dozens of ork vehicles during the Liberation of Perlia. Jurgen even drives some and he's radiates a Psychic Null field. |
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2009-10-08, 16:05 | Link #128 | |
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Ah, yeah you're right, I might have been a bit unclear in that. |
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2009-10-09, 10:29 | Link #129 | |
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For a gun the more the bullet travels the slower it gets due to air friction. However it's not like Mikoto flips the coin with an ungodly force. She flips it and then accelerates it with her powers. Which means the path she accelerates the coin might be longer than just few cm. That would mean that the coin would reach its maximum speed after a while. |
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2009-10-09, 18:36 | Link #130 | |
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It's possible that she can project the driving fields further than the coins can survive. Induction from the driving field may be as much to blame for them melting as friction. |
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2009-10-09, 20:42 | Link #131 | ||
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Hence, I think your gyrojet comparison works very well. Misaka gives the coin once it drops back to her hand level an initial small acceleration with a finger flick, then greatly accelerates it with the field, leaving her unaffected by any tremendous reaction recoil. Just like a gyrojet bullet.
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2009-10-10, 13:23 | Link #133 |
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I worry for Misaka if this means that his Imagine Breaker cancels even his natural desire for a possible sexual relationship (not just with Misaka, but pretty much anyone who catches his interest).
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2009-10-10, 19:59 | Link #136 |
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People make this way more complex than they have to: His power negates anything directly related to the supernatural. Side effects of the super natural occurance (Say, Misaka's lightning hits a gas barrel and causes an explosion) however are not negated, hence the difference between Misaka's power and Accelerator's. Misaka's power continuously pushes the "bullet" forward, otherwise it wouldn't be shown as working like a beam weapon now would it? Accererator's power probably works much closer to the way some of you think Misaka's "Railgun" does.
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2009-10-10, 23:55 | Link #138 |
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7 Pages on the same topic? Well, here's my 2 cents.
If your talking about Toumu not blocking the beams sent at him by Accelerator, did he ever try to block them? After all, Toumu's limits are kinda ill-defined. For the railgun, let's just pretend that Misaka did shoot it at him for now. That scene made it seem alot like Toumu blocked the coin on pure reflex. I seriously doubt he had time to think "hmm, should I try to dodge this? Or try to nullify it?" It was too fast, and probably way too fast to be dodged. On the other hand, for the I-beams, chances are they were fast but not too fast to be dodged. Perhaps he could nullify it, but wouldn't it be safer to just dodge it instead? Dodge the attacks you can dodge and nullify the attacks you are absolutely sure you can nullify or when dodging isn't an option due to it coming at you too fast or for some other reason. And plus it's magic. Who really knows?
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2009-10-12, 10:02 | Link #140 |
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Well basically Accelerators power was changing the vector values of anything. And Mikoto was able to control and generate electricity.
So if Mikoto creates electricity which is supernatural for any kind of goal, for example shooting the railgun, then Touma can stop it. However in Accelerators case it's more like this... A piece of building is falling down. He changes it's direction so it falls on Touma. So even assuming he cancels the supernatural vector changes it's not like the building is gonna teleport back to it's previous falling place. It will simply fall down. Same with the I-Beams. He would have canceled the vector changes and make it return it in it's previous state which would make a huge ass explosion anyway. |
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