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2011-06-13, 14:15 | Link #105 |
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Before the timeskip that was badass, now it's just average. Guys like the raikage could kill Tsunade before she even realizes she was attacked. I wrote that she is a medical ninja in the defense of her character, because even if the other 4 kages are stronger than her, she is meant to be the best ever medical ninja, so there is no reason for bashing her character, she's simply not the one who should fight on the front lines as she told to Sakura.
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2011-06-13, 15:06 | Link #106 |
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I don't blame Tsunade, i blame Kishi... i don't know why he always underestimates female characters (so, why he created them in first place?). Tsunade's speech about medical ninjas is very clear, you need to be strong in order to not be injured because that's a serious blow to the team. She didn't tell Sakura to not fight in the front lines (she fought Hanzou! and her team was probably the tip of the spear in Konoha).
Sakura fought Sasori, she killed with one punch a Pain's summon, now he captured a Zetsu clone, but Kishi ruins every progress with some failed subplot (related to Sasuke). Why Kishi didn't use Tsunade's skills a little more when she faced Pain?. She just use Souzousaisei and then Naruto made his dynamic entry. That's not Tsunade's failure, is Kishi's failure. Take Jiraiya... he was capable to fight Pain without intel, in the end, he lost and died, but we saw a full-throtle Jiraiya. With Tsunade we saw nothing about her skills thanks to Kishi, we only saw how she healed lots of people through Katsuyu. This is just my opinion, but Tsunade was created as a formidable ninja, not as a formidable healer, who was on par with Orochimaru and Jiraiya, who fought Hanzou and is the grandaughter of Senju Hashirama. I bet that if Tsunade would be a man, Kishi would create an awesome fight against Pain and after that Naruto would arrive.
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2011-06-13, 15:22 | Link #107 |
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Kishi couldnt even think of any powerful women to even resurrect as zombies and considering the the amount of them you'd think there were some powerful kunoichi in the world at some point
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2011-06-13, 18:53 | Link #110 | |||
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The other problem is that people would start endless complaints: why did Kishimoto let Sakura beat up a completely exhausted Sasuke. The guy kills Danzou, who was in godmode, and now some chuunin beats him? This whole reunion of team 7 was not meant to be a fight, Sasuke's power is now way beyond the level of Kakashi or Sakura, this was done to hype up a future Naruto vs Sasuke fight. Quote:
But he also created too much expectations for Sasori, and then he was beaten by an old hag a young kunoichi. My opinion is that Kishi never created too high expectations for females. For example why did you expect more from Tsunade? The elders wanted Jiraiya to be the next hokage, so from the start she was just a second choice. Then there is Sakura who is the only average person in team7. |
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2011-06-13, 19:02 | Link #111 | ||
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2011-06-13, 19:10 | Link #112 | |
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As I mentioned before, I think it's all about Sakura gaining experience. That's what Kishi can use as an explanation for improvement or even a makeover.
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2011-06-13, 19:36 | Link #113 |
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No, Kishimoto created substantial hype. Sasori was said to have destroyed a village by himself. He was the Shinobi that defeated the most powerful Kage is Suna's history. He was said to be the greatest puppet master ever. Etc. Fans did not imagine this info, Kishimoto went out of his way to give us this info. This is also why Sakura and Chiyo's victory was so powerful.
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2011-06-13, 19:45 | Link #114 | |
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2011-06-13, 20:29 | Link #115 | |
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Sakura wasn't suddenly portrayed as an unskillful fighter mind you, she quickly and easily got the drop on Sasuke(just as she should have at her current level, under the circumstances) but she was a victim of her own deeply rooted emotions for Sasuke, so she stopped her attack at the last moment. Please feel free to let me know of any inconsistencies this creates about Sakura's progress, or how they are tarnished. Events like Tsunade freezing her actions because of her hemophobia, and Sarutobi's hesitation to kill his former student(despite declaring he'd set his emotions aside) come to mind. |
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2011-06-13, 21:07 | Link #116 | ||
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I was very pleased when Sakura fought with Chiyo against Sasori, how she acted almost replacing Tsunade and Shizune when Pain attacked Konoha or when she noticed zetsu's clone... That's all, if i could ask something to Kishi i would ask to see Sakura doing that type of actions. Quote:
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2011-06-13, 22:00 | Link #117 | |
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2011-06-14, 03:18 | Link #118 |
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it would have been better if she was portrayed as unskillful than emotionally indecisive, after all sasuke is strong beyond belief even in that sickly state. she could of attempted to the final blow, but sasuke or friends somehow stopped her. instead, she ended up giving into her emotions and makes her look weak and lacking resolve.
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2011-06-14, 04:13 | Link #119 |
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whether it's kishi's fault or his characters, it doesn't really matter since without him there would be no naruto and no story. when we criticize kishi, we are criticizing how he handles his characters and how he writes his story, and when we criticize his characters, we are really criticizing him.
tsunade may be a medical ninja but who says she can't fight? she has the skills and the power to defeat a powerful enemy and it was kishi himself who hyped her up. and yet she couldn't even lift a finger in this current war. why is that? we naturally blame kishi for it but we can't help but be disappointed in the character as well. there is no powerful female character in this series that can seriously beat up an equally powerful opponent by herself and that saddens me.
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which i don't really hold against him anyway
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