2009-07-11, 16:14 | Link #541 |
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I wonder since no one seems to recognize Isshin's name then if he was the former Kenpachi. I know Kenpachi Zaraki killed the former 11th Division Captain but Isshin could have left before then. During the Turn Back the Pendulum arc the 11th Division Captain wasn't seen because he was off "marching to the beat of his own drum". Those that say it can't be because Isshin didn't come to the human worl till 20 years before the story began isn't that correct. After all, Uruhara came to the human world 100 years before and hasn't aged so whats to say Isshin didn't come earlier. I'm not quite sure about Isshin being human. Either he was in a Gigai so long he lost his powers and became human (much like how Rukia was about to is she hadn't been taken back to Soul Society), or he was sealed.
If he was the Captain right before Kenpachi Zaraki and Zaraki defeated him then maybe he didn't really die. Can anyone still point out the chapter that shows Zaraki fighting the previous 11th Division Captain? |
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2009-07-12, 14:08 | Link #544 |
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There's no way Isshin could have been the former Kenpachi !! He's just way too nice :'( Even if you say "Oh there must have been some dramatic mid-life crisis that drove him to become the ideal family man who's obsessed with protecting his family" cuz there's just no indication of remorse or repentance for his actions as a KENPACHI!!! And I highly doubt Kubo would want to portray the ever so sweet Kurosaki Isshin as the former blood-lusting, downright ruthless Kenpachi !!!!
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2009-07-14, 18:27 | Link #547 |
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Ok I guess since he is a previous Captain that definitely rulez out R.G. because being Captain of R.G is very unlikely So he could have been Captain of :
1. 10th Division (Hitsugaya Toushiro) - my bet is on this one cuz he was the most recent Captain Appointed 2. 3rd Division (Ichimaru Gin) - Rose *He's now a Vaizard* used to be 3rd Squad's Captain then after his leave it isn't said who took his place and at that time the current Captain Gin was still a child meaning that somebody before him and after Rose was a Captain -_-" so confusing...... 3. Kidou Corps (Tessai * The big guy in Urahara's Shop*) After Tessai and Hachi left it isn't said who replaces them, meaning that it could have been Isshin.
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2.Pretty much the same as #1 3. If Isshin was a kidou master then I think he might have used at least 1 kidou spell
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2009-07-15, 12:53 | Link #551 |
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u mean the all brawn no brain part ?
does ne one else remember the episode where Isshin killed grand fisher??? I'm pretty certain Grandfisher told Isshin something about Ichigo being a pure blood somebody tell me so i can watch it back
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Perhaps, Ichigo mother was simply a human with high spiritual sense. bleach 188 pg 09, at the bottom. "We never found their base of operations, nor uncovered their goals." I doubt he was refering Urahara and himself searching. |
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2009-07-16, 21:11 | Link #554 |
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Yes that we sounds awfully suspicious .... (GASP!!) Maybe that's why neither Rukia nor Renji recognize him!! He was sent to earth on a Top Secret Mission and somewhere along the way he got stuck in the real world i'm so smart
ps y do they call it the real world?_? IS ss somehow fake
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2009-07-17, 03:43 | Link #555 |
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Ok lets try and collect the facts.
Facts: 1 Shinji can not id him from his power. Given that this was a thought to himself and the readers already knew who it was Implies that the fact Shinji doesn't know him is improtent. 2 His powers were sealed and masked for 20 years to the point that a shinagami liveing under the same roof could not tell he was one. 3 Urahara is responsable for at the very least something to do with the seal on his powers. 4 he seems to have been able to id that Ichigo was contacted by a vizard. 5 he calls the vizzards a group of criminals that used forbidden spells to gain hollow powers. This statement could have 2 meanings a) they are criminals because they used the spells, or b) they were criminals and then used the spells. either of these statements could work as the last time we saw them They were nearly fully hollow the forbidden spells may have been like what they did to Ichigo that let them control it. 6 he (and Urahara?) have been looking for them but has no insight on thier goals. 7 he has fought anacarr before and known about them for decades 8 he seems to be firmly in Urahara's camp not counting himself as part of SS.
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I used to think this idea was completely retarded but now I'm actually considering it. What if Isshin teamed up with Yoruichi and Urahara to fake his own death in his fight with Zaraki. Then Isshin went to live in the human world, that could explain why Urahara and the Vizards went to live in Karakura town
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