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Alhazad2003 · 2013-10-07, 01:12

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Originally Posted by Yorae_paladin1

Hmm why do i feel like if the Yokai deny alucards will then he would destroy them along with the humans and start some crazy plan to remake the yokai in his image

Not just the youkai, but the whole world as well. That's always been his ultimate goal, and only our heroes can stop him from making it a reality. How they'll stop him remains to be seen.

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Originally Posted by DragoZERO

Mikogami is awesome. I like having the humans join the fray. Nice touch.

And it'll be a little cliche to have them resurrect Moka like it's nothing. I hope it's not something easy and requires some catch or something. Would be cheesy but nice to have 'the power of love' save her, haha.

Same here, they'll die regardless if they resist or surrender, so why bother eh? Now that they've seen the enemy, they're gonna fight him with everything they've got. Won't be as easy as it was two hundred years ago, when he burned down all of Asia in a week.

And I'm sure they'll be a catch, just not sure if it'll be Akuha paying the price, or Tsukune. I don't want to see Tsukune die to bring Moka back, what would be the point? Not to mention it would leave Moka to Akuha and Akuha alone. And that is just not an option, not at all.

Amario · 2013-10-07, 10:16

No offense actually got tired of outer Moka, since Inner Moka is there as well. All the more the Alucard is going nuts with taking everyone down. Well the final dark lord looks to have failed if only say someone like Akasha or the badass Tsukune we have seen from the past comes that will make a major difference.

mrShady · 2013-10-09, 15:37

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Originally Posted by Alhazad2003

Not just the youkai, but the whole world as well. That's always been his ultimate goal, and only our heroes can stop him from making it a reality. How they'll stop him remains to be seen.

Same here, they'll die regardless if they resist or surrender, so why bother eh? Now that they've seen the enemy, they're gonna fight him with everything they've got. Won't be as easy as it was two hundred years ago, when he burned down all of Asia in a week.

And I'm sure they'll be a catch, just not sure if it'll be Akuha paying the price, or Tsukune. I don't want to see Tsukune die to bring Moka back, what would be the point? Not to mention it would leave Moka to Akuha and Akuha alone. And that is just not an option, not at all.

Outer died though.... Akua is pretty clear on that. And what the side effects of this resurrection are going to be is anyone's guess but I doubt anything serious will happen, I mean the story is already pretty doom and gloom there's no need to add more.

Chris38 · 2013-10-09, 22:56

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Originally Posted by mrShady

Outer died though.... Akua is pretty clear on that. And what the side effects of this resurrection are going to be is anyone's guess but I doubt anything serious will happen, I mean the story is already pretty doom and gloom there's no need to add more.

That's what you think, but it's hard to say what Ikeda has in mind.

Personally, I think there is going to be some catch in the whole Moka resurrection development, otherwise ... this plot issue would be pretty much a development to prolong this arc even more.

mrShady · 2013-10-11, 05:20

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Originally Posted by Chris38

That's what you think, but it's hard to say what Ikeda has in mind.

Personally, I think there is going to be some catch in the whole Moka resurrection development, otherwise ... this plot issue would be pretty much a development to prolong this arc even more.

This arc was all about saving Moka they succeeded in rescuing her but at a high cost (unleashing Alucard and losing outer) what purpose does it serve to add even more drama with Moka's revival. Besides that attack killed outer and put inner on deaths door if her resurrection requires something specific that would just needlessly prolong this arc even further without actually progressing the story.
Also it will only mean less panels for the Alucard fight continuing the bad pacing we already have.
This is a monthly series and these continuing escalations are dragging the story down.

Tenzen12 · 2013-10-11, 05:28

Yup, death Omote is catch big enough. No need adding more to it. (though if there was catch that would allow resuscitatate both Mokas, it would be completely different metter, but I hope it's not that case).

Waven · 2013-10-11, 07:15

Akua's vague statement about outer "most certainly gone" might tell us that she's only an unreliable source on this matter and rather acts to increase the notion of seeming despair so I still assume there is some magical way with whom she'll be brought back. I actually wouldn't mind perma-death of the main love interest if it was done well but that would require some prearrangements before the death and serious repercussions afterwards (e.g. Tsukune emotionally scarred for life not being able to let any girl get close to him for a long time) ... all of which are traditionally non-shounen material.

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Originally Posted by Chris38

That's what you think, but it's hard to say what Ikeda has in mind.
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Please stop saying that and trying to use it to refute others' arguments, it's kinda pointless. We're all just readers here, exchanging only expectations, speculations and opinions, the author doesn't have much to do with it. No one here knows for sure how the story is going to develop, there's no need for a constant reminder of that fact and the comment is not making a valid point in duscissions.

Kyero Fox · 2013-10-13, 12:52

Akua would like for outer to be gone. So she can just be sayin that.

Of course tho the rosa is pretty much destroyed so yea, she might hve been killed off. But I suspect part of her will be apart of Inner now.

Waven · 2013-10-13, 13:34

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Originally Posted by Kyero Fox

Akua would like for outer to be gone. So she can just be sayin that.

Of course tho the rosa is pretty much destroyed so yea, she might hve been killed off. But I suspect part of her will be apart of Inner now.

Meh, I've mentioned this a while back, the merging development would destroy two distinctive characters to create only a new single one - Sure, a badass one with a loving and gentle side but still just one

mrShady · 2013-10-13, 16:36

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Originally Posted by Waven

Meh, I've mentioned this a while back, the merging development would destroy two distinctive characters to create only a new single one - Sure, a badass one with a loving and gentle side but still just one

Imagine if Moka recovers and now has multiple personality disorder

. I can already see her switching between inner and outer at the most inappropriate of times, like you know during a kiss scene or something

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Hmm now I think about it this might actually work.
Inner "sucked" up outer's personality just before she "died" and now has her stored somewhere inside her mind. This causes them to switch uncontrollably and until the rosary is fixed they have to live that way.
Could be great fun if they ever get back to school.
Maybe as added bonus Moka will have silver hair with pink highlights

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Obviously this destroys most of the serious build up so the timing isn't exactly right, but this isn't a seinen manga so it's not that unlikely right?

Tempest35 · 2013-10-13, 19:24

.... -.-

Spoiler for Outer shall return:

There, now can we please move on from this? >.>

Waven · 2013-10-14, 03:47

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Originally Posted by mrShady

Imagine if Moka recovers and now has multiple personality disorder

. I can already see her switching between inner and outer at the most inappropriate of times, like you know during a kiss scene or something

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That would work quite well, I think. It'd add a new layer of comedic potential - something the series has lacked for a while now.

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Originally Posted by Tempest35

.... -.-

Spoiler for Outer shall return:

You do know you don't have to take part in a discussion if it annoys you, don't you? Not sure if your suggestion was serious: Main love interest reborn as his daughter. Doesn't that sound weird to you?

Fwarlord · 2013-10-14, 05:47

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Originally Posted by Waven

You do know you don't have to take part in a discussion if it annoys you, don't you? Not sure if your suggestion was serious: Main love interest reborn as his daughter. Doesn't that sound weird to you?

It maybe weird for us but not for the Japanese.

Spoiler for Spoiler for Ghost Sweeper Mikami:

Magin · 2013-10-14, 07:41

Then there's always mahoraba, IIRC... and Change 123 as well.

When you have multiple personalities that end up merging at the end, there tends to be multiple children in the end to "bring back" the personalities

Tempest35 · 2013-10-14, 11:59

If the lover was in an entirely separate body, why yes it would be weird...

but since this is a different personality within a single body, not so much. It's the nicest way to resolve both Tsukune's and Inner Moka's love for Outer without both girls becoming rivals themselves. And look at how Inner treated Outer - like a big sister for the most part or one could argue, a mother-daughter.

Breimoon · 2013-10-14, 12:08

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Originally Posted by Tempest35

If the lover was in an entirely separate body, why yes it would be weird...

but since this is a different personality within a single body, not so much. It's the nicest way to resolve both Tsukune's and Inner Moka's love for Outer without both girls becoming rivals themselves. And look at how Inner treated Outer - like a big sister for the most part or one could argue, a mother-daughter.

after all they are mother-daughter in a certain way.

Deus Ex · 2013-10-28, 14:13

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Originally Posted by Tempest35

.... -.-

Spoiler for Outer shall return:

There, now can we please move on from this? >.>

No...just...no.

Alhazad2003 · 2013-11-01, 07:32

Spoiler for Chapter 66.3:

Kirihara_R · 2013-11-01, 07:51

Spoiler for ....:

Soji · 2013-11-01, 08:09

O boy

Spoiler for spoiler:

2013-10-13, 12:52	Link #24588
Kyero Fox Tastes Cloudy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Snake Way Age: 35	Akua would like for outer to be gone. So she can just be sayin that. Of course tho the rosa is pretty much destroyed so yea, she might hve been killed off. But I suspect part of her will be apart of Inner now. __________________

2013-10-13, 19:24	Link #24591
Tempest35 Awe of She Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Orlando	.... -.- Spoiler for Outer shall return: ... as the daughter borne to Moka and Tsukune. There, now can we please move on from this? >.> __________________ "Focus entirely on me, you ordinary soldier."

2013-10-14, 07:41	Link #24594
Magin #1 Akashiya Moka Fan Author Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Where magic is real Age: 35	Then there's always mahoraba, IIRC... and Change 123 as well. When you have multiple personalities that end up merging at the end, there tends to be multiple children in the end to "bring back" the personalities __________________ Gifted...or Cursed? R+V fanfic- Chapter 4 of A Water Bride and a Vampire is now up at FF.net! All fans of Inner or Outer Moka, come join her fanclub!

2013-10-14, 11:59	Link #24595
Tempest35 Awe of She Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Orlando	If the lover was in an entirely separate body, why yes it would be weird... but since this is a different personality within a single body, not so much. It's the nicest way to resolve both Tsukune's and Inner Moka's love for Outer without both girls becoming rivals themselves. And look at how Inner treated Outer - like a big sister for the most part or one could argue, a mother-daughter. __________________ "Focus entirely on me, you ordinary soldier."

2013-11-01, 07:32	Link #24598
Alhazad2003 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011	Spoiler for Chapter 66.3: It starts with Akuha, Tsukune, and the late Moka Akashiya. She offers to give Moka her blood in order to revive her, and Tsukune wonders if it'll actually work. Akuha tries regardless, as her fangs pierce Moka's neck. It next goes to Sun versus Alucard, as Miyabi and Sun throw verbal barbs at one another. As she distracts him, Mikogami moves in and nails him with a vicious blow that sends Alucard reeling and knocks Miyabi's cigarette out of his mouth. Mikogami then removes half of his robe, which reveals that his body is constrained by an immense holy lock. Mikogami then reveals his true form, some sort of hybrid creature of immense power. He then calls out to Fuhai, who finally assumes his younger form, as the pair join Sun to fight against the Lord of Darkness. Meanwhile, Akuha is still trying to revive Moka, and is reminded of one of her last encounters with Jasmine. Though it seems her efforts were unsuccessful, and she and Tsukune get into another argument. She finally notices his mutated arm, and probably realizes he's been tainted by Alucard's blood. Tsukune then does the same, and realizes what he has to do. He removes the lock, and decides to give Moka his own blood. Meanwhile, the three brave youkai combat Alucard, who's taken some serious damage, as has the city. They move in for a joint attack, is it enough to finish him? Tune in next month for the epic conclusion, it seems. Until then...

2013-10-07, 10:16	Link #24582
Amario Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012	No offense actually got tired of outer Moka, since Inner Moka is there as well. All the more the Alucard is going nuts with taking everyone down. Well the final dark lord looks to have failed if only say someone like Akasha or the badass Tsukune we have seen from the past comes that will make a major difference.

2013-10-11, 05:28	Link #24586
Tenzen12 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012	Yup, death Omote is catch big enough. No need adding more to it. (though if there was catch that would allow resuscitatate both Mokas, it would be completely different metter, but I hope it's not that case).

2013-11-01, 07:51	Link #24599
Kirihara_R Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012	Spoiler for ....: Vampire is the only one can give a blood to another vampire since tsukune is a half human its impossible for him to do the transfusion ... So now Tsukune can only do one thing and that is to give up his humanity (seal unlock) .. Akua's past, i see her first sister is also in love with a human .. no wonder she really hate human she think that a youkai and a human can not co-exist

2013-11-01, 08:09	Link #24600
Soji Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Europe	O boy Spoiler for spoiler: So Tsukune decided to do that? I wonder if he can keep his sanity.ALso interesting the part with Akua.