2008-07-17, 15:59 | Link #3861 |
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Well, point taken. The one Euphie fell in love with and liked was the gentle Suzaku who cared for his friends, thought that it was wrong to archieve his goals though the wrong means and wanted to save his people from suffering. Suzaku might need to remember this indeed...
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2008-07-17, 16:03 | Link #3862 | |
TRUE! Lelouch is dead! XD
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But... kallen did it in the past, so I said "made sense"... that is how it is supposed to be...<.<
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2008-07-17, 16:14 | Link #3863 | |
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Hmm...eh! I'll buy it but considering how Nunnally and Shirley has been beating the whole forgiveness vibe into his senses it's kind of funny that he had to use a drug to finally understand the meaning of it all, but this seems to be a very possible scenario (except for what it reads like Kallen completely owning Suzaku) we get to see Euphie again and Kallen may be able to understand Suzaku a little more and see the reason why he's like that......but given the context of the series he may just be interupted when he's about to do so...but we'll wait and see |
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2008-07-17, 16:17 | Link #3864 | |
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if they just get interupted then she would still hate his guts (and it would also be sunrise cheating us) and for the record she doesnt own him she nails him with a lucky blow with the chair (after he already has her pinned down and is about to inject her) and after the injection he's in no state to fight the whole point of it all is to create a scenario where she could forgive him for his actions and by having him at her mercy and not killing him becouse she understands how much hes hurting is one way of doing it the only other way is him almost injecting her with it and then coming to realise what he's really about to do what the tv trope site calls a near rape expiriance ("oh my god . what am i doing" kind of thing)
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2008-07-17, 16:32 | Link #3865 | |
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There's a striking number of parallels appearing here, Suzaku and Lelouch both fall down the pit, Kallen and Lelouch both face their greatest fear/hatred, Nunally is the only person that can influence all of them for the better. Kallen will be saving Lelouch. |
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2008-07-17, 16:37 | Link #3866 | ||
TRUE! Lelouch is dead! XD
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2008-07-17, 16:38 | Link #3867 | |
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Well, what I mean is that, both Lelouch and Suzaku will be saved by Nunally. Whether or not it starts through Kallen and Euphemia, respectfully, is still up in the air. I think the former is almost certainly guaranteed, whereas the latter is plausible. |
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2008-07-17, 17:17 | Link #3868 | ||
TRUE! Lelouch is dead! XD
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God all this discussing with this really makes me more anxious for Episode 15...<.< |
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2008-07-17, 17:24 | Link #3872 | |
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Yes, and because your future is grim, and I didn't want to spoil it for you.
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Psh, Ep.15. I want to see Ep.25. |
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2008-07-17, 23:36 | Link #3873 | |
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2008-07-17, 23:43 | Link #3875 |
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Your examples prove nothing. One, the bomb was set to detonate if his heart stopped. It had no effect on a fist fight. Two, Lelouch was in a straightjacket when he was brought before the Emperor. Three, Lelouch is not athletic in any sense of the worse, so Suzaku kicking his ass is meaningless.
Kallen lost to Suzaku all of once because she was naked, holding her jacket in one hand, and her knife in the other. Granted, being a dress here won't help, but she has a chance.
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2008-07-17, 23:57 | Link #3876 | |
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2. Real soldiers would fight naked! It preys on their fear lol j/k....eh...Venture Bros if you don't get it.... 3. I still don't see how being one handed had anything to do with a knife fight against an unarmed combatant. It's not like she struggled for a long time when he took the knife away from her, he took her down in one fool swoop. |
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2008-07-18, 00:02 | Link #3877 |
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She charged straight at him with one hand handicapped by her attempt to cover herself. She was fighting with a disability the moment the fight started. It does not make Suzaku infinitely more badass than her, it only means he's capable of avoiding a stab like he did with that soldier is episode 8. She obviously wasn't prepared to fight back naked, and as she demonstrates with the soldiers later on in the episode, she can fight just as well as he can.
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2008-07-18, 00:04 | Link #3878 |
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Everybody except Lelouch that Suzaku's defeated in hand to hand combat has always rushed him head on in a wide open space. That's very easy to defend against. Suzaku has superhuman abilities but durability isn't one of them. If Kallen gets a hit on him it's gonna hurt. She just has to fight intelligently instead of RAHHHH CHARGE!!(like against those goons in the casino). She doesn't have the space to do that in the cell anyway.
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2008-07-18, 00:08 | Link #3879 |
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^ A stab isn't that much different from a jab or a punch. And those soldiers weren't Suzaku. I'm not denying she can't fight, just not as well as Suzaku. She's ok with the Gurren and its gadgets but in hand to hand Suzaku has the upper hand.
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2008-07-18, 00:11 | Link #3880 | |
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