The Intelligent Hip Hop/ Rap Discussion Thread

[Shadow Raven 91]

Originally Posted by qtipbrit92

That may be so, but nowadays they're usually regarded as different genres of music.
In my opinion, hip-hop refers to the style in which the music is more upbeat and quicker, what is usually played at parties and whatnot, while rap refers to a more mellow beat, and is less so "party music".
Most of the newer stuff is more "hip-hop"ish, while a good deal of the older style is "rap".
Of course, this is all my view, and it probably differs from yours.

As for my opinion, I generally don't listen to rap unless I'm out partying, which is progressively becoming rarer and rarer. I don't hate it, nor do I like it, though there are usually some exceptions.
The occasional song is catchy and I'll listen to it for a short bit, though not very often do I pick up a random rap song.
I find that eminem is one of the few rap artists who has released several songs I enjoyed, generally because they didn't follow the newer "ho's and money" thing, and are often quite catchy as well.

Personaly i see Hip-hop as more the old school style with drumbeats, dj scratch work, and emphasis on the actuall lyrics. I see rap as club and gangsta music with loud synth bass, catchy chorus, and less emphasis on the lyrics. i normally don't separate between Rap and Hip-Hop but i concider most of the hiphop/rap we see nowadays as just rap, or more like pop music.

[T3rmina]

those wanting to hear more dj format,

[T3rmina]

*bump* i want to hear opinions on format! chsthnkbi

[ApostleOfGod]

Yeah, the industry's going nowhere now.. I'm a big fan of Rap and Hip hop, although I'll listen to any genre, but it's also a hobby thing for me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQdC8VPAhlA

Friend produced the track, I rapped it. Just my thoughts and expressions, nothing big. But it's not about the money cash hoes. I don't want to be reppin' for that kind of dirt. Anyways, enjoy the track if you decide to hear it.

[cry]

Originally Posted by ac3y

I'm not really too into hip-hop.
However, there are a few albums I've enjoyed (admittedly those with more pop leanings. I also like live instrumentation on hip-hop songs).

Lupe Fiasco's Food and Liquor and The Cool.
Gym Class Heroes' Cruel as School Children
And a couple songs by The Roots.

Lupe fiasco, this guy is really good. In france it's hard to get info about good american rappers, cause here only gangsta rappers really pierce. I like dizzee and Kanye too. and a bit of busta rhymes.

[vin.dictive]

Ahhh.... props to you SilentKnight for creating this thread. Even if I'm a year late.

Hehe... I haven't updated my collection for yonks now, maybe for a good year or two... so to kick off - here's some albums that I've been into recently: (and hopefully my tastes haven't tolled much since I haven't listened for yonks as well )

Ivan Ives - Iconoclast
Ivan Ives - Eat Pop or Die
Outlandish - Breed & Barrels Of Water
Outlandish - Closer Than Veins
Strange Fruit Project - The Healing
Exile & Lokey - Fool
Exile & Lokey - Lucid Traveler
Scarface - Made
Shad - The Old Prince
L.E.G.A.C.Y. - Project Mayhem
Lupe Fiasco - The Cool (ashamed that it was out since December... I know)
Nujabes - Hydeout Productions 1st Collection
Nujabes - Hydeout Productions 2nd Collection
Nujabes - Metaphorical Music
Nujabes - Modal Soul

I'm feeling that I have a lot to catch-up on.

[sa547]

Ever since discovering it on the Smokin' Aces soundtrack, GZA's Liquid Swords has grown on me for the past few months because of the brilliant lyricism it possessed, with double entendres, symbolism and hidden meanings. Besides, another reason I liked it so much was his inclusion of soundbites from old kung-fu and samurai films.

[LustfulEnvy]

Jurassic 5 is one of my favorite Hip hop groups. Try the songs quality control, The Influence, whats golden, work it out, red hot and concrete school yard. There really good, try them out sometime.

[skyfirefly]

i gotta say right now about hip hop im digging T-pain and Flo-Rida's LoW :P
Makes me dance... >_<

[Sides]

Haven't listen to rap music for a while, last hip hop record i bought was Jurassic 5's Feedback. But a rap duo just caught my attention recently, The Cool Kids, they have a myspace page, worth checking out.

[Mueti]

Originally Posted by soulassassin547

Ever since discovering it on the Smokin' Aces soundtrack, GZA's Liquid Swords has grown on me for the past few months because of the brilliant lyricism it possessed, with double entendres, symbolism and hidden meanings. Besides, another reason I liked it so much was his inclusion of soundbites from old kung-fu and samurai films.

Liquid Swords is pretty much my favorite hip hop album of all time.

[King Lycan]

Anyone here Three Six Mafia's New Album

[Munin]

For creative, intelligent and funny lyricism, I would recommend Busdriver.

[Shadow Raven 91]

Originally Posted by Munin

For creative, intelligent and funny lyricism, I would recommend Busdriver.

Props for mentioning Busdriver. He's not what you would expect from a rapper but really interesting. Temporary Forever is my favorite album.

[Daughter!]

Aesop Rock anyone?

[HayashiTakara]

All I have to say is that modern day Hip Hop / Rap / whatever, sucks. The 90's was where it was at, with NAZ, Biggie, TuPAC, Wu Tang, Dr. Dre, Bone Thugs, etc...

[Monkey D. Luffy]

^Boot Camp Click, A Tribe Called Quest, Outkast, Ice Cube. So many good artists.

Originally Posted by Pop-Punk Sucks

Aesop Rock anyone?

Yes, did you like his newest album "None Shall Pass?" I thought it's easily one of his best efforts since "Labor Days."

[Mueti]

Originally Posted by Monkey D. Luffy

^Boot Camp Click, A Tribe Called Quest, Outkast, Ice Cube. So many good artists.

A Tribe Called Quest and Ice Cube are clearly artists of the 90s though.
Ice ist still active, yes, but he was on his peak with AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted and Death Certificate - at the beginning of the nineties.


(I'm not saying there don't exist great hip hop artists today, don't get me wrong.)

[Monkey D. Luffy]

Originally Posted by Mueti

A Tribe Called Quest and Ice Cube are clearly artists of the 90s though.
Ice ist still active, yes, but he was on his peak with AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted and Death Certificate - at the beginning of the nineties.


(I'm not saying there don't exist great hip hop artists today, don't get me wrong.)

Yeah I see what you're saying, that's what I was referring to. There were so many artists that dropped the best of their material in their prime which was in the '90's. Even though some are still active they haven't managed to release anything as good as their early material like Outkast with their first three albums, Mobb Deep's sophmore and third albums and the many classic albums that came from the Boot Camp Click family.

[ApostleOfGod]

Chamillionaire's A Milli remix = ChaMilli Remix

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI_veiipE90

It's pretty sick. Check it out.