Shakugan no Shana III - Episode 4 Discussion / Poll

[Game8910]

Originally Posted by patrick7421

i don't understand y Yuji became evil? =\ anyone explain???

its pretty clear already isnt it? go rewatch the episode carefully....

[Dark Wing]

Originally Posted by Izayoi

Silver(the evil persona/last boss) took Yuji's body/Yuji allows him to take it for whatever reason. The motive for Yuji's betrayal/letting Silver take his body is not revealed yet, so it would be a spoiler to tell you. But it is hinted upon that he has good intentions.

Edit: tl;dr Yuji want to change stuff by whatever means necessary, even if means making others think he is evil.

God I want to correct you so bad in the beginning part of your statement but I will let the anime do it's thing and explain everything

Now this episode...THIS episode was well worth the wait best adaption of novel events JC Staff has possibly ever done.

10/10 no doubt about it!

[Izayoi]

I know what you are talking about that... but the plot is hinting ... or maybe it didn't... well I will change it.

[Senshigeia]

patrick7421: Yuji explains it in this episode.

Spoiler for Yuji's reasons:

He wants to be able to protect everyone. He thought that he couldn't do anything if someone was attacked like he was, by the Tomogaras. Besides, he thinks Shana's life is devoted to fight without an end, until she is worn out. He joins the other side so he can be strong and able to change the world, so he can "walk together with Shana".

I actually think it is a very beautiful reason Also I hate Yoshida. I don't pity her...

mark1246: thanks you very much for the link!

[Chaos2Frozen]

When I accidentally saw the spoiler years ago, I was expecting a more brutal rejection by Yuji

Like, no-holds-bar-god-honest-truth-it's-not-me-it's-you rejection that would ring harder than a hammer on an anvil

So Yuji broke three girls in one episode, what a deliciously evil bastard

[AiFallen]

New here~ And just gotta say, my boyfriend and I both flipped out on this one. I read a few spoilers but I was still WTF?! I want to see more. @_@
Can I slap Yuuji and Yoshida, go suicide already.

[Ec1ge]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

When I accidentally saw the spoiler years ago, I was expecting a more brutal rejection by Yuji

Like, no-holds-bar-god-honest-truth-it's-not-me-it's-you rejection that would ring harder than a hammer on an anvil

So Yuji broke three girls in one episode, what a deliciously evil bastard

Same with the rejection part. LOL

And the 3 girls thing never happened in the light novels.

[Archon_Wing]

You know, I was gonna complain the fight was underwhelming because the initial part looked kinda budget, lingering on people's faces for too long, especially the Margery freak out part. But I've been spoiled by certain other anime this season.

However, the BGM was great as usual, Yuji's VA absolutely rocked, and the best Urusai ever. Sadly, her stupid flame punch thing turned out to be absolutely useless. Well, at least Yuji has decided to put matters on his own hands on how to protect everyone, and apparently joining the bad guys gives him this opportunity. Or so he thinks... Best 3x urusai, btw.

The most important thing though is that he did what he should have done seasons ago and told Kazumi off. That alone is enough to earn the episode a 10/10. This is the best Shana episode ever, and I have been waiting for this moment forever.

I can finally die in peace.

[Demi.]

So...that God forsaken love triangle has finally come to an end. Good for Shana, I guess. Well, she can celebrate after some much needed R&R after Yuuji beat her to a pulp.

The Margery emo transition felt pretty awkward, and quite frankly was more annoying than anything. The animation was also sub par at times, but it picked up near the second half.

Overall... a pretty good episode. I'll give it an 8/10 for easily being the best this season of Shana has yet to offer.

[Reckoner]

Thank you Shana III, I knew there was a reason I gave a damn about this franchise and I have finally been reminded. Lets not stumble majorly anymore k? 9/10

p.s. Love triangle finally over, YES!!!!!

[Triple_R]

I'm still not sure exactly how I feel over Yuji's overall characterization turn, but it certainly does seem to have been executed marvelously well in this episode.

The scenes were intense, the dialogue made sense, characterization was rock solid, and everything came together quite nicely.

This is the sort of episode that made Shana one of my all-time favorite anime shows.

10/10 for Episode 4.

[piperz]

10/10
This episode is so intense. i love it!

[Rising Dragon]

Man, you guys are cold when it comes to Kazumi. I'm not really gonna express joy about the love triangle coming to an end.

But maybe that's because after all the shipping crap in Code Geass, Gundam SEED, and Nanoha, I've come to realize that heavy investment in shipping is fucking stupid.

Shana, Marcocias, and Wilhelmina all seemed to act like they already knew the truth about the Silver's manifestation--was that the information that Wilhelmina was going to tell her in season 2 before Pheles showed up? Or back then was she only going to tell them about Yuji's silver-colored flame?

[Archon_Wing]

We are one step closer to burning hot secks between Yuji and Shana.

Don't cockblock it.

[Rising Dragon]

Your puns wound me, Archon!

[Demi.]

Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

Man, you guys are cold when it comes to Kazumi. I'm not really gonna express joy about the love triangle coming to an end.

But maybe that's because after all the shipping crap in Code Geass, Gundam SEED, and Nanoha, I've come to realize that heavy investment in shipping is fucking stupid.

Shana, Marcocias, and Wilhelmina all seemed to act like they already knew the truth about the Silver's manifestation--was that the information that Wilhelmina was going to tell her in season 2 before Pheles showed up? Or back then was she only going to tell them about Yuji's silver-colored flame?

The only thing that's fucking stupid, is how it took over two seasons for Yuuji to take his pick without beating around the bush.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

Man, you guys are cold when it comes to Kazumi. I'm not really gonna express joy about the love triangle coming to an end.

Well it's not a love triangle that I have trouble picking a favourite, there are some triangles that I can't decide myself which girl I would prefer and this one isn't one of them.

[Archon_Wing]

Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

Your puns wound me, Archon!

Well, at least you're not as hurt in the behind like Kazumi and assorted fellows will be.

But honestly, she deserves someone else anyways.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Archon_Wing

Well, at least you're not as hurt in the behind like Kazumi and assorted fellows will be.

But honestly, she deserves someone else anyways.

I know of a certain glasses guy that wouldn't mind so it's not that bad...

[Rising Dragon]

Originally Posted by Demi.

The only thing that's fucking stupid, is how it took over two seasons for Yuuji to take his pick without beating around the bush.

Having been in a real-life love triangle--twice--I can sympathize with how long it took for Yuji to make the choice; it's actually extremely difficult. That said, didn't it take just as long in the novels?

It did amuse me with how screwed the Misaki City crew was without Yuji. He has the one weapon you don't dare block or parry, the ring that makes one invulnerable to flame (and thus immune to just about every Flame Haze), he knew where their mission control was kept, knew the strengths and weaknesses of all three Flame Hazes present... and he was also their ace in the hole against powerful Tomogara in the first place, and now they had to fight against that ability...