(L) Girls und Panzer

[gaiar31]

what name's of airplane use carrie Type10 in ep02?


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[Sumeragi]

A Kawasaki C-1.

[Endless Soul]

Let me see if I understand this correctly. There are four tanks that are "lost" (up on a cliff, in a lake, etc.), on a carrier. How do you lose such big, and apparently important, vehicles on a carrier?

Seems legit.

I just can't seem to care about modern armor the way I do about the classic armor. They just doesn't impress me, and I think it's because the human element has been largely reduced thanks to electronics. I'm the same way with airplanes.

Endless "Apologize to the Finnish!" Soul

[LoweGear]

Originally Posted by Endless Soul

I just can't seem to care about modern armor the way I do about the classic armor. They just doesn't impress me, and I think it's because the human element has been largely reduced thanks to electronics. I'm the same way with airplanes.

Well, the "romantic" appeal of WW2 hardware is that they're such crude and relatively simple machines that relies alot on the human element while still having the basic elements that make modern war machines what they are today. No wonder WW2-era machines are still quite popular and well-loved to this day.

Fire-control computers and auto-stabilized guns? GPS and airconditioning? None of that in the old days whippersnapper, just sweat, blood and guts

That aside, episode 2 (thankfully a certain sub group offered a non-german track for their second release) deviates a bit from the manga in the details (they seem to pick up Mako mid-battle for instance instead of being part of Team A from the start), but the basic gist of the mock battle is still there. And Yukari isn't just a tanksexual it seems: she's a full-blown miltaku. Wearing a military rucksack packed with metal eating utensils and canteens isn't something you see in anime often

[Panzerklein]

Originally Posted by Cosmic Eagle

You want big...they should just throw in a Jagdtiger...or ISU-152

How about Maus and E-100

[RedShocktrooper]

I find myself oddly fond of the Type 89's crew. That said, I'm hoping everyone upgrades to at least Midwar stuff soon, seeing the 75mm L/24 is making the WoT tanker inside me scream, "Upgrade to Ostketten you noobs!".

Personal theory coming soon.

EDIT: Okay, personal theory time. Prepare for a bit of Darkness.

Tank Operation spins out of the blood sport depicted in World of Tanks. This is incidentally why we see such a mixed batch of tanks generally - the sheer nature of World of Tank's sport meant that the only way to be sure tanks were on the same team was by bribing the match maker. When the WoT Bloodsport grew more popular, a sort of "Backyard" version spun off out of mixed gender teams competing for local prizes. Because of the use of Live ammunition and much reduced security measures (Let's try not to ponder why someone comes back in WoT after they catch a round with their face which would have surely gored them), only the men were actually brought into the blood sport.

The people televising the sport, however, started having female crewmembers filter in, eventually to the point where they were getting significantly higher ratings, with fan opinion being higher for all-woman crews over all-male or mixed gender ones. So, naturally, as crews died and were replaced, women replaced the men, eventually leading to Tank Operation ("Panzerfahren/Panzerkraft") becoming a predominantly/entirely female sport, and by proxy tanks becoming associated with women.

The World of Tanks league died out in terms of popularity, but its rules are still fairly common, and it has impressed upon the world that "Tanks are womanly", while also bringing more safety to the fields of battle in counter to having the fairer gender in the line of fire (something which likely irks former male operators who manage to still be alive. The nature of the WoTL means that the majority of the retired male tankers are probably rather old men who have little business interacting with the characters.) The end result is that while tank operation is still a quite lethal ordeal, it's significantly less fatal than the World of Tanks League, hence why what appear to be 15-year-old girls are trusted with such machines - and why the majority of them are World War II-era.

The series is set as the WoTL comes back into popularity, hence why tank operation is suddenly nigh-compulsory at the detriment to other clubs. Perhaps it's also making a grab at a Minor League type deal so that it has fresh blood flowing in (and cute girls make for higher ratings among male audiences, naturally.)

[Scarletknive]

Originally Posted by LoweGear

Well, the "romantic" appeal of WW2 hardware is that they're such crude and relatively simple machines that relies alot on the human element while still having the basic elements that make modern war machines what they are today. No wonder WW2-era machines are still quite popular and well-loved to this day.

Fire-control computers and auto-stabilized guns? GPS and airconditioning? None of that in the old days whippersnapper, just sweat, blood and guts

That aside, episode 2 (thankfully a certain sub group offered a non-german track for their second release) deviates a bit from the manga in the details (they seem to pick up Mako mid-battle for instance instead of being part of Team A from the start), but the basic gist of the mock battle is still there. And Yukari isn't just a tanksexual it seems: she's a full-blown miltaku. Wearing a military rucksack packed with metal eating utensils and canteens isn't something you see in anime often

Are Singapore's tanks like that too? And btw from the Tank models shown in the official website, how can you have 2 cannons in 1 tank?(I like the "Char" Tank though.)

You know... That last part of your posts can put into spoiler...

By the way where do the staffs get this idea about tanks from?

[nojay]

Originally Posted by Panzerklein

How about Maus and E-100

Bolo? The Continental Siege Unit model should be sufficient for a bunch of girls to play with.

[D-KLAC]

ep.2

well get more to develop sure found more tanks & now clean-up.

oh here come instructor yea cue with tank smashing a car oh somebody call insurance for car got pwn'd by a tank.

well now tank battle work-out with student trying to drive a tank well go next?

[LoweGear]

Originally Posted by Scarletknive

Are Singapore's tanks like that too? And btw from the Tank models shown in the official website, how can you have 2 cannons in 1 tank?(I like the "Char" Tank though.)

Multiple cannons on a single tank was actually standard design for a lot of WW1 and early WW2 tanks. Tanks like the British Mk. I, aka the very first tank to see combat, had two 6-pounder main guns.

The single turret/gun design trend was popularized by the Renault FT, which was the single most influential design in the history of combat vehicles, becoming the basis for all modern vehicles up to current day tanks like the Abrams. Although even then, multi-gun designs did exist like the M3 Lee.

[Hypernova]

Shouldn't the tank that's been under all that muddy water be damaged beyond recovery?!

[panzerfan]

Tanks have been recovered from lakes and so forth. The problem is that the repair would take... a while. Those girls either have brilliant servicing team that can work miracles, or that they themselves are superhuman.

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

Originally Posted by panzerfan

Tanks have been recovered from lakes and so forth. The problem is that the repair would take... a while. Those girls either have brilliant servicing team that can work miracles, or that they themselves are superhuman.

The engineering club were tasked with repairing them. I think the job was made easier by the fact that you could buy spare parts in the civilian market in their universe.

[gaiar31]

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Only Girls cleaning All Tank can recover in one day.......

Amazing Tank ecchi.

[LoweGear]

A few trivia notes on the episode:

- Erwin (that girl with the snazzy hat) makes a mistake about the StuG III being used by the Finns against the Soviets in the Winter War of 1939. The Stug III was used by the Finns against the Soviet Union, but that was in the Continuation War, which started two years later, and the StuGs themselves weren't received until 1943 at earliest. (The translation of "Winter War" is supposedly correct on this one).

- Commie missed an opportunity for more tank trivia due to a translation flub. When Erwin was talking about "water and tanks", she doesn't actually say "D-Day", but "Normandy DD Tanks". These would be the Duplex Drive, or DD Tanks, which were M4 Shermans modified with the Duplex Drive system that was essentially a flotation device to allow them to travel through water over short distances. They were used by both British and American forces during the D-Day invasions in Normandy, though the ones assaulting Omaha Beach all sank en-route, contributing to the massive casualties on that part of the invasion.

- A random Easter Egg can be found in that scene with Team D, where one of them can be seen reading Moeyo! Sensha Gakkou, a tank manga by Nogami Takeshi, who's working on this show as assistant character designer.

[Cosmic Eagle]

Originally Posted by nojay

Bolo? The Continental Siege Unit model should be sufficient for a bunch of girls to play with.

Hellbores FTW

[Endless Soul]

Originally Posted by LoweGear

- A random Easter Egg can be found in that scene with Team D, where one of them can be seen reading Moeyo! Sensha Gakkou, a tank manga by Nogami Takeshi, who's working on this show as assistant character designer.

Ah, I was wondering what that was. I was thinking maybe it was another tanker catalog like we saw in episode 1 with the Crusader on the cover.

That tank-fan store was awesome. From models to magazines to full size replacement guns. Personally, I could spend all day in a store like that.

Endless "Tanks R Us" Soul

[Marina2]

Ep.2

- This ep. introduces us to Akiyama Yukari, a tank otaku. I like her! Especially how she interect to tank-rerated thing. There is another character introduced too..but I can't remember her name yet.

- This show has a lot of characters but they share the screentime in the ep. very well.

- Wait, so we have "onee-chan" as possible final boss too??? Great! This show sure remind me a lot about Saki

- A tank driving is very enjoyable to watch. Look forward too a battle next ep.

[panzerfan]

Saki... now my brain is filled with:

Tanking is Tanoshii! Let's all have some Tanoshii!
(wins by shooting right into enemy tank barrel)

While in a bind, close one's eyes, get a flashback sequence, and then identify camouflaged foe 2km away then then promptly engage hostile.

[4Tran]

This show is turning more Saki-like by the moment: they even have a Teru to go with their Saki! For the rest, Yukari is pretty cool; she's obviously the instrument that the show intends to use to teach the basics of tank combat. This episode was better than the first one, but really, I'm just here for the tank action.

The Type 89 was firing at the main characters' Pz. IV with a low-velocity 57mm gun. Realistically, that gun has no real chance of damaing the target, so they would have been better off just staying there and firing back. The StuG III is a very different matter though!

Also, we can see in the ED (and the first episode) that the Pz. IV's crew assignment is going to be a bit different.

Miho - Commander
Mako - Driver
Yukari - Loader
Hana - Gunner
Saori - Radio operator

The current configuration is quite terrible! They also haven't fired the main gun yet so we don't know if they have any HEAT ammunition.

Originally Posted by RedShocktrooper

I find myself oddly fond of the Type 89's crew. That said, I'm hoping everyone upgrades to at least Midwar stuff soon, seeing the 75mm L/24 is making the WoT tanker inside me scream, "Upgrade to Ostketten you noobs!".

But HEAT rounds! And the Type 89 is the only tank of the bunch I don't at least like somewhat. Japanese tanks don't have any charm points!

Originally Posted by LoweGear

The single turret/gun design trend was popularized by the Renault FT, which was the single most influential design in the history of combat vehicles, becoming the basis for all modern vehicles up to current day tanks like the Abrams. Although even then, multi-gun designs did exist like the M3 Lee.

The funny thing is that even though the FT first saw service in World War I, they were still in use at the start of World War II and they're still better than most Japanese tanks. It would be awesome to see one in this show - it's the cutest little tank.

Originally Posted by LoweGear

- Erwin (that girl with the snazzy hat) makes a mistake about the StuG III being used by the Finns against the Soviets in the Winter War of 1939. The Stug III was used by the Finns against the Soviet Union, but that was in the Continuation War, which started two years later, and the StuGs themselves weren't received until 1943 at earliest. (The translation of "Winter War" is supposedly correct on this one).

I'm really surprised that the show made that error. Especially since the Finns wouldn't have had any use for the early StuG IIIs with the low-velocity 75mm gun. Maybe we're supposed to assume that Erwin is bad at history!

Originally Posted by panzerfan

While in a bind, close one's eyes, get a flashback sequence, and then identify camouflaged foe 2km away then then promptly engage hostile.

And then miss as the 75mm L24 has bad accuracy at long range...