Character Discussion - Kallen

[mechalord]

Originally Posted by rose-wisteria

It's people like you that make the rest of the CLuCLu fandom look bad... -_-

For the last time... C.C. is Lelouch's FAIRY GODMOTHER! She loves him like a SON!

[TheDisruptiveOne]

I salute you CC. Congratulations. You managed to outlast your rivals. The director/writer systematically got rid of all potential rivals within the last 10-12 episodes.

Episode 12 - Milly gives up and abandons her feelings for Lelouch.
Episode 13 - Shirley, the front runner at the time is killed off.
Episode 22 - Kallen shows Lelouch her true feelings. The music and the final words make it clear that this relationship is over. Kallen gets ready to kill him soon after...even promising to Xingke that she will kill him herself.
Episode 22 - It's clear Kaguya no longer has feelings for Lelouch either. She admired Zero, but she was afraid of him and afraid of his geass. They definitely won't go in that direction.

End game. CC even has a matching throne.

[Ryu-kun]

Originally Posted by Sinta

And Lulu has done the same thing against Schneizel. His older and more experienced self has been a constant battle back and forth. Lulu knew that Schneizel was going to attack with nuke and the floating city. He knew that he was going to back off during the China arc. We all thought lulu was shit out of luck and looked what happen. He played the bad guy to over come all odds. The only thing he didn't know was Nunally; which makes sense because Lulu can't have all the cards.

Your right or else he will have a easy win.

Also he never expected Kallen to be captured which promoted his feelings for her since he was the only one in the ship that really was shocked and almost lost a battle just to get her back.

[Pan chan]

Originally Posted by FoxxFireArt

I did notice something Chiba was talking about. She said how Kallen had given permission to gun her down if they suspected that she was under his Geass. She didn't tell them that she's immune now. Sounds like she was ready to die with him if need be again.
She obviously deeply loves him.

IIRC She didn't ask about it to Lelouch, she asked him if it was her free will, so right now, she doesn't know if she's immune to it or not.

[mechalord]

Originally Posted by digi.amuro

Did we ever get clarification on whether kallen knew the limits of geass? It seems like she'd know, from either the year gap b4 R2 or from lelouch himself. I just dont get why she'd tell the BKs to gun her down if said situation arises if she knew he couldnt geass her again. If she ended up following him and therefore, begin acting suspiciously, would she really want them to kill her? Or maybe its the whole trust thing again and she didnt want to be fooled again. I just dont get it.

Sexist writing. Women lose all forms of reasoning when they are emotional. Scorned woman/angry woman = irrational woman. She's pissed because she's lied to and she's pissed because even though she will lay down her life for him... he doesn't treat her "right."

got it?

[yvj]

Originally Posted by TheDisruptiveOne

I salute you CC. Congratulations. You managed to outlast your rivals. The director/writer systematically got rid of all potential rivals within the last 10-12 episodes.

Episode 12 - Milly gives up and abandons her feelings for Lelouch.
Episode 13 - Shirley, the front runner at the time is killed off.
Episode 22 - Kallen shows Lelouch her true feelings. The music and the final words make it clear that this relationship is over. Kallen gets ready to kill him soon after...even promising to Xingke that she will kill him herself.
Episode 22 - It's clear Kaguya no longer has feelings for Lelouch either. She admired Zero, but she was afraid of him and afraid of his geass. They definitely won't go in that direction.

End game. CC even has a matching throne.

Please stop

If you think Kallen wasn't trying to fool herself by saying that she'll kill then you're a fool. Kallen is not going to kill him.

And C.C seems like she barely even talks to him at this point.

[Ryu-kun]

Originally Posted by TheDisruptiveOne

I salute you CC. Congratulations. You managed to outlast your rivals. The director/writer systematically got rid of all potential rivals within the last 10-12 episodes.

Episode 12 - Milly gives up and abandons her feelings for Lelouch.
Episode 13 - Shirley, the front runner at the time is killed off.
Episode 22 - Kallen shows Lelouch her true feelings. The music and the final words make it clear that this relationship is over. Kallen gets ready to kill him soon after...even promising to Xingke that she will kill him herself.
Episode 22 - It's clear Kaguya no longer has feelings for Lelouch either. She admired Zero, but she was afraid of him and afraid of his geass. They definitely won't go in that direction.

End game. CC even has a matching throne.

Show how Lelouch has feelings for C.C besides the warlock scene in season 1...?

[Skellington2612]

Originally Posted by yvj

This is what we call high class trolling.

I salute you sir. You're a professional

Wow I didn´t know thee were classes...
Even trolling has levels...

[TheDisruptiveOne]

Originally Posted by Taku-kun

Your right or else he will have a easy win.

Also he never expected Kallen to be captured which promoted his feelings for her since he was the only one in the ship that really was shocked and almost lost a battle just to get her back.

I think Lelouch just wanted her back because he knew he needed her and her guren for future battles.

He didn't seem all that worried about her when she was a captive. He was busy dating every girl at Ashford.

[Arkard]

<Sigh> now I'm depressed. Not because I don't think Kalulu will happen, but rather that it seems that there seems to be alot of foreshadowing of Kallen dying. Probably dying for Lelouch, but still, she's been recklessly fickle with her life these past few episodes, and it always occurs around Lelouch.

She had that important development with Nunnally. Why? Yeah I thought that at first it would help her see his "true side" and that might be true, but she hasn't pierced his multitude of masks yet. What I think is more likely with the loli's reintroduction is that Kallen will be the one to break her from Schniezel's influence.

She's at the crossroads of selection now with the fate of the world hanging in the balance. She won't remain neutral, she's going to side with someone. Her story isn't over yet, but I fear for her.

[Ryu-kun]

Originally Posted by TheDisruptiveOne

I think Lelouch just wanted her back because he knew he needed her and her guren for future battles.

He didn't seem all that worried about her when she was a captive. He was busy dating every girl at Ashford.

Sayoko ring any bells? Also he ran from the girls and didn't want to be with them which Rolo help put a stop to it.

[TheDisruptiveOne]

Lelouch doesn't give a shit about Kallen. I can see him yelling at Suzaku to kill her the same way he was yelling at Kallen to kill Suzaku in episode 18. It fits with his character. He has abandoned all of his morals at this point.

[Sinta]

Originally Posted by Taku-kun

Your right or else he will have a easy win.

Also he never expected Kallen to be captured which promoted his feelings for her since he was the only one in the ship that really was shocked and almost lost a battle just to get her back.

Exactly, the fact that Lulu cares for Kallen is obvious anyone arguing otherwise is just stupid. I think the same can be said for all the other females in Lulu's potential harem. C.C, Shirley, Milly, Kallen, etc. He cares for all of them. Kallen was different because his actively trying to hide his feelings from her. He wants her gone because he doesn't want to lose her as well.

[Arkard]

Originally Posted by Taku-kun

Sayoko ring any bells? Also he ran from the girls and didn't want to be with them which Rolo help put a stop to it.

Just ignore the troll, put it on ignore. You're just encouraging it by acknowleding it's existance. Too bad ignore doesn't work on quotes though. What's really stupid is that the point brought up is outright ridiculous. If he wanted her and the Guren, he's given up many, many chances to secure it in its new hack mode.

[yvj]

Originally Posted by Skellington2612

Wow I didn´t know thee were classes...
Even trolling has levels...

Of course there are

Low level trolls will say things like "CluClu = canon"

There's not basis to waht they say but it's blunt and to the point. Hit and run most likely

High level trolls like TheDisruptiveOne use complex pseudo logic based on a combination of speculation and things pulled out of their rear to try an undermine a fandom.

[Nikusu]

Let's just assume that Kallen's gum line is to Lulu (which 90% of us could probably agree on). Doesn't that mean that she knows Lulu is confessing at that time? If this is true then that would be his first time revealing feelings. Shirely, I personally believe, was guilt. I'm sure he thought she was special, but I think his mourning was more because he thought he had finally protected her after all she had been through only to find he couldn't. Also he never said he loved her. Assuming Kallen's gum line is directed at Lulu and she's right in her assumption that he's about to try and confess, I see this as Lulu's first confession.

[TheDisruptiveOne]

Lelouch would have geassed Kallen in this episode if he could have. I'm convinced of that. He really regrets wasting his chance during the first season now. Especially since he doesn't give a damn about her or her brother's dreams.

[Arkard]

Originally Posted by yvj

Of course there are

Low level trolls will say things like "CluClu = canon"

There's not basis to waht they say but it's blunt and to the point. Hit and run most likely

High level trolls like TheDisruptiveOne use complex pseudo logic based on a combination of speculation and things pulled out of their rear to try an undermine a fandom.

Apparently, you get more XP and loot for refuting them then the weaker ones too. Oh wait...

[Sinta]

Originally Posted by lv23

Let's just assume that Kallen's gum line is to Lulu (which 90% of us could probably agree on). Doesn't that mean that she knows Lulu is confessing at that time? If this is true then that would be his first time revealing feelings. Shirely, I personally believe, was guilt. I'm sure he thought she was special, but I think his mourning was more because he thought he had finally protected her after all she had been through only to find he couldn't. Also he never said he loved her. Assuming Kallen's gum line is directed at Lulu and she's right in her assumption that he's about to try and confess, I see this as Lulu's first confession.

I think that is a very fine speculation. The gum line only makes sense if it is being said to Lulu

[yvj]

Originally Posted by TheDisruptiveOne

Lelouch doesn't give a shit about Kallen. I can see him yelling at Suzaku to kill her the same way he was yelling at Kallen to kill Suzaku in episode 18. It fits with his character. He has abandoned all of his morals at this point.

If he didn't give shit about her. He would have told her farewell straight to her face. He would rejected her outright. He wouldn't have stood there looking like the Grinch smiling at the little from Whoville.

He said nothing. Meaning he did not lie to her. Fact is HE LIED TO SHIRLEY!