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Xiyon · 2024-03-17, 10:17

Sheesh, I'm sure I'm not the only one that was suspecting Lakan's scumminess to be a red herring over the past several weeks, but for him to actually have brain damage and have misunderstandings escalate--- now I feel bad for the dude.

Lakan's been essentially trying to win a custody battle for her against Granny all these years, and each time he tries to see his daughter -- and potentially explain his side of the story -- he gets blocked every step of the way.

Frontier · 2024-03-17, 10:47

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Originally Posted by Kanon

The message she sent him with the withered blue rose is pretty clear.

I'm not entirely sure he initially intended to buy Meimei, but there are a few hints: he's known her for a very long time and taught her to play, it was mentioned she's always the one who distracts/entertains him when he comes by for Maomao, Meimei herself stated she didn't mind spending time with him, and Lihaku heard a rumor about someone wanting to buy one of the three princesses.

If that's the case though, it seems Maomao cockblocked Meimei.

I feel like she deserves someone closer to her in age and not still pining for her mentor...but I guess he would probably let her be free to do whatever she wanted

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Tenzen12 · 2024-03-17, 15:00

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Originally Posted by Xiyon

Sheesh, I'm sure I'm not the only one that was suspecting Lakan's scumminess to be a red herring over the past several weeks, but for him to actually have brain damage and have misunderstandings escalate--- now I feel bad for the dude.

Lakan's been essentially trying to win a custody battle for her against Granny all these years, and each time he tries to see his daughter -- and potentially explain his side of the story -- he gets blocked every step of the way.

He is still kinda ass though

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I would understand why he would want to buy Meimei, but why would she want to be with him? Wouldn't she have interesting suitors of her own, like Lihaku for Pairin?

" interesting" is very subjective term. Either way he is smarter, richer and more influential than Lihaku... or 99% of population. Putting aside love and such they seems to get along well for years at least.

I could understand why she would want to be with him, but why exactly he would want to be with her? He know her from time she was young girl, she is not as smart as his previous love and given his face blindness even her beauty is not quite answer.

BBOvenGuy · 2024-03-17, 18:55

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Originally Posted by Xiyon

Sheesh, I'm sure I'm not the only one that was suspecting Lakan's scumminess to be a red herring over the past several weeks, but for him to actually have brain damage and have misunderstandings escalate--- now I feel bad for the dude.

It's not "brain damage," really. Face-blindness is thought to be part of the autism spectrum. My ex-wife is on the spectrum, and she has a touch of it.

Neurodivergent, yes. "Brain damage," no.

Cloudedmind · 2024-03-17, 22:29

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It's not "brain damage," really. Face-blindness is thought to be part of the autism spectrum. My ex-wife is on the spectrum, and she has a touch of it.

Neurodivergent, yes. "Brain damage," no.

Face blindness/prosopagnosia can be caused by brain damage. But, yes in Lakan's cause it's certainly congenital prosopagnosia.

Anh_Minh · 2024-03-18, 08:50

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Originally Posted by Xiyon

Sheesh, I'm sure I'm not the only one that was suspecting Lakan's scumminess to be a red herring over the past several weeks, but for him to actually have brain damage and have misunderstandings escalate--- now I feel bad for the dude.

He's still the man who wiped his hands on a random dude's hat during an official ceremony.

Frontier · 2024-03-18, 11:46

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Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

He's still the man who wiped his hands on a random dude's hat during an official ceremony.

He and his daughter both just have their own kind of manners

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Tenzen12 · 2024-03-18, 12:32

There zero doubts, he is ass, but it was still tragedy what happen to him and Maomaos mother.

grecefar · 2024-03-18, 20:26

I still don't like him and I doubt I ever will.

deadite · 2024-03-18, 20:29

Objectively, Lakan has done nothing wrong but troll Jinshi. Also being annoyed by an Autistic person is kind of yikes.

magnuskn · 2024-03-19, 02:58

Yeah, I kinda don't get why people have this bad reaction to the guy. He is, at worst, a bit annoying and we were misled into thinking he did bad things to Feixiang, when he really didn't and was a victim of bad parents (in this case Maomao's grandma and his own dad).

Tenzen12 · 2024-03-19, 05:02

He intentionaly missled us (well it was aimed at Jinshi into believing he raped woman. Being victim doesn't make one good person. Neither being neuro divergent. It's not even close as bad as if he actually did that, but he is selfish person whose silence almost killed Maomao and Jinshi on top of previously harassing them for prolonged period of time.

magnuskn · 2024-03-19, 06:47

No, you misled yourself into believing that he raped anybody. What he said perfectly correlates with reality, i.e. he got Fenxiang pregnant, aside from him hiding that he did so unwittingly and without intention to do so.

And regarding his "silence", I would rather point at Grandma and Loumen as people who should have said something to Maomao long ago and did not, giving her this terrible perception of her real dad.

Huh...? · 2024-03-19, 07:47

True.

It was never mentioned or hinted that Lakan raped Fengxian.

He only ever questioned how to reduce the price of a Courtesan, and the answer was to either make them lose their virginity or get them pregnant.

And because it talked about those two stuff, people just directly assumed he raped her.

I mean, there is a possibility of pre-planning as well with the Courtesan in question, especially considering Episode 3 plot, which talked about how a Courtesan faked being mentally ill, to get her price reduced.
Plus, people can know about stuff even though they have never done anything like that.

I guess, it's the general norm that it's always the men's fault in anything related to a women.

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I would rather point at Grandma and Loumen as people who should have said something to Maomao long ago and did not, giving her this terrible perception of her real dad.

That's something entirely different.

Nachtwandler · 2024-03-19, 08:34

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Originally Posted by Tenzen12

He intentionaly missled us (well it was aimed at Jinshi into believing he raped woman. Being victim doesn't make one good person. Neither being neuro divergent. It's not even close as bad as if he actually did that, but he is selfish person whose silence almost killed Maomao and Jinshi on top of previously harassing them for prolonged period of time.

He may be not the best person to deal with and yes, and he hates Jinshi because he is an overprotective dad and does not want his only daughter to marry this guy. Pretty typicvaln thing.

But all of his actions this season were either to give MaoMao and Jinshi a lead on Suireis plot as Lakan could not act himself here (you can guess why, but it will be more clear in season 2 if we get one) or to lead Jinshi to their backstory. MaoMao getting injured was not his plan.

Frontier · 2024-03-19, 10:13

Maybe it's just that father and daughter both have a phrasing problem.

Tenzen12 · 2024-03-19, 10:31

Nah, he phrased it that way intentionally to unnerve Jinshi.

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He may be not the best person to deal with and yes, and he hates Jinshi because he is an overprotective dad and does not want his only daughter to marry this guy. Pretty typicvaln thing.

But all of his actions this season were either to give MaoMao and Jinshi a lead on Suireis plot as Lakan could not act himself here (you can guess why, but it will be more clear in season 2 if we get one) or to lead Jinshi to their backstory. MaoMao getting injured was not his plan.

I don't disagree. My only issue is that he is not just not "best person to deal with" but also "not best person" period and some people pretend it's not the case.

magnuskn · 2024-03-19, 12:51

I don't see it. If behaving a bit like an ass makes you a bad person, Maomao is a terrible person.

Tenzen12 · 2024-03-19, 13:43

I don't thing so? I am trying recall when Maomao acted "like ass", but I am failing remember anything. For most part she just keep low profile and doesn't bother anyone. But feel free refresh my memory.

Anyway in my book person who knowingly throw impossible task on people they dislike just to harass them are bad. Even if we disregard everything else, that alone is enough (though I really don't feel like disregarding almost letting assassination event happen)

ryllharu · 2024-03-19, 14:22

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Originally Posted by magnuskn

I don't see it. If behaving a bit like an ass makes you a bad person, Maomao is a terrible person.

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I don't thing so? I am trying recall when Maomao acted "like ass", but I am failing remember anything. For most part she just keep low profile and doesn't bother anyone. But feel free refresh my memory.

Maomao kind of is a terrible person though. It's part of what makes her endearing and sympathetic.

She has flaws all over the place and isn't a perfect Mary Sue like so so so many female leads in period settings.

Gyokuyou is probably the closest to a traditional female lead in these kinds of series, personality wise. Lihua has a wrathful (and lusty) side. Lishu is meek, immature, and a picky eater. It makes more of the cast relatable and feel real.

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Tenzen12 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012	There zero doubts, he is ass, but it was still tragedy what happen to him and Maomaos mother. __________________ "I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% of how I react to it" (Charles R. Swindoll)

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magnuskn Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hamburg, Germany Age: 48	Yeah, I kinda don't get why people have this bad reaction to the guy. He is, at worst, a bit annoying and we were misled into thinking he did bad things to Feixiang, when he really didn't and was a victim of bad parents (in this case Maomao's grandma and his own dad). __________________

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Tenzen12 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012	He intentionaly missled us (well it was aimed at Jinshi into believing he raped woman. Being victim doesn't make one good person. Neither being neuro divergent. It's not even close as bad as if he actually did that, but he is selfish person whose silence almost killed Maomao and Jinshi on top of previously harassing them for prolonged period of time. __________________ "I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% of how I react to it" (Charles R. Swindoll)

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magnuskn Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hamburg, Germany Age: 48	No, you misled yourself into believing that he raped anybody. What he said perfectly correlates with reality, i.e. he got Fenxiang pregnant, aside from him hiding that he did so unwittingly and without intention to do so. And regarding his "silence", I would rather point at Grandma and Loumen as people who should have said something to Maomao long ago and did not, giving her this terrible perception of her real dad. __________________

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Frontier Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013	Maybe it's just that father and daughter both have a phrasing problem. __________________

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Xiyon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Somewhere	Sheesh, I'm sure I'm not the only one that was suspecting Lakan's scumminess to be a red herring over the past several weeks, but for him to actually have brain damage and have misunderstandings escalate--- now I feel bad for the dude. Lakan's been essentially trying to win a custody battle for her against Granny all these years, and each time he tries to see his daughter -- and potentially explain his side of the story -- he gets blocked every step of the way.

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grecefar Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Blue Notes Blues	I still don't like him and I doubt I ever will.

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deadite Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010	Objectively, Lakan has done nothing wrong but troll Jinshi. Also being annoyed by an Autistic person is kind of yikes.

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magnuskn Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hamburg, Germany Age: 48	I don't see it. If behaving a bit like an ass makes you a bad person, Maomao is a terrible person. __________________

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Tenzen12 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012	I don't thing so? I am trying recall when Maomao acted "like ass", but I am failing remember anything. For most part she just keep low profile and doesn't bother anyone. But feel free refresh my memory. Anyway in my book person who knowingly throw impossible task on people they dislike just to harass them are bad. Even if we disregard everything else, that alone is enough (though I really don't feel like disregarding almost letting assassination event happen) __________________ "I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% of how I react to it" (Charles R. Swindoll)