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@Endscape Yep, that makes a lot of sense ... we will see, if the author has a similar idea, as you ... in the next few volumes. |
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2013-05-21, 13:07 | Link #6823 | |
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Spoiler for spoiler:
I think you've got it.
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2013-05-21, 13:30 | Link #6824 | |
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A very good theory but one question. Does he also have some connection to bows? |
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2013-05-21, 14:12 | Link #6825 |
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^ I think it's a very good guess as well, although part of me feels like the author might go for a slightly more well-known diety, but instead tie in a mythological connection that isn't currently linked in popular culture. He's taken liberties in this regard before so I don't see him stopping now.
My speculation is that it'll be either both/or Gilgamesh/Enkidu as together they possess the attributes of "King" and "Defier of Tyrants" (fighting against the tyranny of Devil Kings). Gilgamesh often draws parallels as perhaps originators to both 1) Achilles and 2) Jason in the first instance as an invincible god-like hero that mourns the death of a close comrade and undertakes an epic journey ala the Argonautika. As for links to swords and bows, I believe the original tales have Gilgamesh using both, he has a "bow of anshan" and the axe "Might of Heroes" but the tales has him primarily wielding a sword when he slays the various foes he encounters. I wouldn't be surprised if the "King of the End" is the continuation of the story of Gilgamesh, where immortality is attained but weariness kicks in as the years go by, because "longevity diminishes life's joys" y'know! (although I wouldn't be surprised that you're right considering the more I read about Batraz..)
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2013-05-21, 18:28 | Link #6828 |
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Godou is already plenty powerful as he is, I'm sure lots of us would like to see new authorities to see some new stuff, but it's a delicate dance to give Godou new powers without making him completely overpowered and unstoppable for story drama sake not to mention making his harem's battle abilities irrelevant and diminishing their characters.
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2013-05-21, 19:49 | Link #6829 |
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New powers wouldn't necessarily make Godou more powerful, just versatile. The main thing holding the author back imo, is that extra powers would make the harem less useful. Currently their biggest showings are covering for Godou when he can't use a power for whatever reason(usually against a weak opponent). An authority without restrictions would make those situations less of a threat to Godou.
That and he hasn't even completely mastered the 10 incarnations yet. He has a solid understanding of it, but he comes up with something new pretty much every volume. He also isn't even close to mastering the technique Athena left him, and now he has something from Circe as well. He really doesn't need another authority right now. He has enough on his plate to figure out already. Didn't Alec take like several years to master his divine speed properly? Godou's authority is much more complex by comparison. |
2013-05-21, 22:21 | Link #6830 |
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True, mastering 10 different forms of Verethragna's autority + the powers that Godou gained from Athena and Circe + improving his skills in using Ama no Tsuragi is definitely going to take some time. Still, before that ... Godou would probably need to gain the motivation to improve those ... abilties, which hasn't occurred yet After all, while Godou's understanding of his authorities ... definitely increases in each volume, due to all the gods, and other things that he is "forced" to defeat, I think the pace of this process, would definitely improve, if Godou had even a little interest, in his life as a Campione - which definitely improves, compared to the start of the novels, but I don't think that it has reached a level, where Godou would actually try to improve the "abnormality" that his body has. |
2013-05-21, 22:23 | Link #6831 | |
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2013-05-21, 23:28 | Link #6832 |
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Godou doesn't really need "motivation" though, at least to improve his control over his authority. That will happen naturally with experience. Training is supposedly useless according to Pandora.
If Godou has 1 thing going for him (or not, according to your POV) its that he is getting a crap load of experience in a relatively short period of time. Which is why his control is relatively advanced considering he has only been a campione for like a year. If you mean the motivation to actually track down opponents, thats a different story. I doubt Godou will ever do that. He is just different in that regard. He likes to fight, but its not a goal in and of itself for him. He's not like Salvatore. More like a relaxed version of Alec imo, fighting when threatened but otherwise just doing whatever occurs to him. |
2013-05-21, 23:38 | Link #6833 |
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Training is not going to help at all if you consider training his authority. Its not going to help none whatsoever, but using it over and over you'll at least develop some unique ways to use it despite it not changing in power or consumption.
I think what many are saying is that a Campione is like a body pool of magical power so Godou should at least learn magic. A simple toothpick snapping spell resulted in him destroying a full size tree. Its a good alternative of his authority since they became unusable after usage and sometimes have a recoil effect on them. Magic will allow him to fight at least Divine Beasts, it makes no sense to waste authorities on them. Despite that Ena, Erica, Liliana, and Yuri themselves don't stand a chance against a above average Divine Beast so Godou as Man (sense he keeps going on and on about having good values as a man) should protect the women he loves. Also, thread been relatively quiet despite the new volume is coming out in 2 days. I expected a lot of speculation. Usually this thread is packed like a ant hill. |
2013-05-21, 23:43 | Link #6834 |
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The problem is Godou seems to have no real talent in magic. All he really has is a magical capacity from being a Campione that no mortal could ever hope to match. Perhaps he could learn some magic if he had a few decades of heavy training to compensate for his lack of talent but we're not going to be following his exploits that long so it seems like there's very little point to me.
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2013-05-21, 23:56 | Link #6835 | |
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If teaching Godou magic would take that long. I expect the author would write a short story of Liliana and Erica's both prodigies of magic showing their frustrations at him like Liliana and Erica to tiger claw gripping Godou's head with an evil aura along with a small smile. Would make a funny story if you think about it. |
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2013-05-22, 00:00 | Link #6836 | |
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2013-05-22, 00:03 | Link #6837 | |
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After all, there hasn't been a detailed summary of how magic works in the universe of Campione ... but it has been mentioned that all the types of normal mages that exist in this novel, can be treated as an imitation of a Campione (something like that, has been mentioned in the prologue of the first volume) ... which, makes me think that it's a lot easier for a Campione to learn how to effectively use magic, compared to a normal person, provided that he (or she) has enough motivation to learn it. |
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2013-05-22, 00:06 | Link #6838 | |
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Pure speculation. Having destruction power doesn't necessarily mean he does have talent in magic, but it doesn't say the opposite either. Having power means there is a mean to control it. How long it would take is the question or the discussion is about. Just pointing out a couple things such as having excellent Magic users around as well an entire organization to help in Japan. He has the resources to help him, plenty and top grade help if you ask me if he ever decided to go there. Luo Hao has shown to use Martial Arts and some Magic and so have Alec. Every person is different, but it does show hardwork does pay off. Alec is from the same generation of Godou, so its not impossible. Also, got to go its 1:00 am and my girlfriend wants to go to sleep as well despite watching the Housewives all day. |
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2013-05-22, 00:08 | Link #6839 | |
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Namely, the magic itself that had turned these incarnations into Circe's possessions. Normally, Godou was not capable of sensing that vague and ambiguous presence. Just as Erica described, he was a man with zero talent in magic. Godou talent toward magic is on a VERY situational basis usually in regard to his authorities and things affecting his authorities only. This is more from the instinctual understanding of his power. Regular magic in the world of Campione is a thing of finesse and control, not just something you can get by with by pumping raw power into it. |
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