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2013-03-02, 07:26 | Link #3149 | |
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Erika and Fujibayashi are more interesting in that aspect. Lina as well, I think. But don't know much about her yet as her part is not translated yet. |
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2013-03-02, 07:32 | Link #3150 |
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While Miyuki is not just some stupid girl, as a fan of Tatsuya I cannot help but dislike her.
Because of her he is not free to go anywhere he wants/do whatever he wants(she could release him from his guardian duties if she wanted to), while he is much better than her in every way she gets to be the heir(and even that happens mostly because they're afraid of him) and not him, in school she gets to be called the genius, the ice queen and be admired and Tatsuya who has major accomplishment and more astonishing capabilities isn't(well most of them are secret but when you keep adding one thing to another it stops mattering why), sometimes she gets angry at him for selfish reasons like when girls seems to be interested in him which is NONE OF HER BUSINESS and she even attacked him once with magic(how can someone be so selfish and ungrateful). She follows him EVERYWHERE and while he does says that they're not attached to the hip but seriously the only time they're not together is when they are forced into it like when they have different classes and now it's going to be even worse since he's in the student council. |
2013-03-02, 07:36 | Link #3151 |
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may ı ask you what do you expect from Honoka and Mizuki? ı lost my hope for the hard core bro-con from start actually this novel is a bit hard for me to completely understand it so ı can't be die hard fan of the series. maybe ı find Honoka and Mizuki because they are plain
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2013-03-02, 07:41 | Link #3152 | |
I never hid my hurts.
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@Bold 2. That's not up to either of them, you can't blame either of them for that. If their roles were reversed you'd probably hate Tatsuya for the same reasons. @Bold 3. Again, it's not up to either of them. The only way it would be is if they could use mind control. It's not fair to hate on either of them for what other people think of them. @Bold 4. I'll admit, her getting jealous is fairly unnecessary but she really is a serious bro-con. Also, she's not un-grateful at all, she understands and appreciates all that Tatsuya has done and continues to do for her and they both respect each other and treat each other accordingly. @Final bold. You do understand it's pretty much the opposite, right? He pretty much escorts her everywhere he can(or is necessary) because he's her gaurdian. You need to keep that fact in mind. |
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2013-03-02, 07:51 | Link #3153 | |
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2 - I know the decision that she would be the heir isn't up to her but I cannot help but dislike her for it anyway since it should've been Tatsuya(seriously, Tatsuya is like the perfect heir to the Yotsuba with all of his abilities and personnality) 3 - Again, if she was only getting one undeserved thing that Tatsuya is more deserving of I wouldn't dislike her but it's just too many things and that includes fame so be it her fault or not it's still bothering me. 4 - You can be a bro-con all you want but if Tatsuya saved your life several times, protected you your whole life, makes sure nothing bothers you, maintain your CAD, etc etc etc then you have absolutely no right to get mad at him especially when you know he is innocent so she should either shut all of her emotions inside of her or get angry at the ones who bother Tatsuya not him, that's childish and selfish to the extreme. From their sibling relationship Miyuki is obvious getting all the benefits from it. |
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2013-03-02, 08:09 | Link #3155 | |
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@ 3. People do recognize Tatsuya as an incredible person. It's not like everyone treats him like trash. To the military and to the people that get to see glimspses of his skill-set(specifically everyone that knows his full abilities) he's all but an eldritch abomination/god and at the very least, they understand they don't really get to match him, they only get to be equal to his weaknesses(I.e Chiaki and Cad hardware). @2. That's not going to change, they hate his guts. Precisely because of his skill-set. He's more powerful than most of the entire clan, if not all of it. It's simply that he's more powerful, in the wrong way(to them). If he could create but was still as strong, he'd be top of the list and have become head years ago. But well, life's a bitch. He's like someone that sleeps with their eyes open and standing up straight, to them anyway. @1. If not with her, at best he'd be forced to work for their father, the father that hates him and sees and uses him as a tool. Alongside his step-mother that his him as well. He likes his sister, she likes him, they treat each other well, they have no problems with each other. You have to learn to make sacrifices and compromises, y'know? In poker, he'd be the professional that consistently gets the worst cards in the game but still manages to get by and stay top-dog. If his cards were as good as Miyuki's he'd be less of a likeable protagonist, at least to me anyway. But yes, I can agree with you on at least 1 thing, in their relationship, Miyuki does get the best of it but well, that's life. |
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2013-03-02, 08:38 | Link #3156 | |
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2013-03-02, 08:39 | Link #3157 | |
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2013-03-02, 08:56 | Link #3158 | |
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3 - The people who recognize Tatsuya for his true worth are VERY few, and even fewer who know of his combined talents, I would be more okay with it if all the important characters in the series knew about it but that's not the case, the ones who know him and respect him only appear once every several chapters(if erika, leo, mikihimo, mayumi and all the importants students knew his true worth then maybe i would be okay with this). 2 - I'm not talking about the people who hate him because of his abilities which are actually very few people, most people who discriminate against him only do so because they are ignorants of them and think about it if Hattori for example knew about tatsuya's full worth from the beginning he would"ve worshiped him and tried to be like him instead of hating on him, but now it's too late and his pride doesn't let him do so. Also like 2 or 3 people in his clan truly know of his abilities otherwise they would probably treat him differently(most likely fear him). 1 - There is no way to force Tatsuya to work for his father, honeslty it's not thanks to Miyuki, Tatsuya isn't just some random you can boss around, in fear of him they made Miyuki the next heir, they try to get any opportunity for him to ask the clan a favor and when Maya told him to stop going to school with Miyuki or whatever he told her no and countered her magic. Yes the Yotsuba wouldn't just let him leave the clan completely but there would've probably been some different arrangement than the current one where they don't mess with him and he doesn't mess with them. And you can't just say it's life, in life you either get unlucky one way or another and things don't go your way but for tatsuya, his true worth and superiority to miyuki couldn't be any more obvious, if all he was just the best CAD enginner in the world, just one of the strongest magicians in the world, just one of the few strategic class magicians in the world maybe it would've made sense but he is all 3 combined not to mention his other good merits so for him not to be rewarded accordingly makes absolutely no sense at all. |
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2013-03-02, 09:14 | Link #3159 | |
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@2 Actually, most of his clan were taught from birth to discriminate against magicians that did not create. Naturally since Tatsuya falls into the category of the people they're meant to discriminate against, he gets treated accordingly. By all but Sakura, the Kurobas and the previous Sakura.(The siblings' mother's gaurdian, I believe) @3. Keep in mind, his full abilites are god-level. He's the final wall of defense if the country were to be attacked. Let's face it, Mio is strong and all but seriously, she's only good over water, when she's 10km away and if her opponents are ontop of said water. The clans are fantastic and I'm sure they could hold off the enemy but if the country was forced to call up Tatsuya and the rest of the Yotsuba clan, they're in deep shit. If Tatsuya's abilites were dissected and, god help Japan if this actually happened, someone were to find out any weaknesses in his disintegration and this weakness ended up known to either one of Japan's worst/strongest enemies or the entire world found out then they'd be well and truly fucked. His powers are not known by the world for no reason. It's best to keep it that way, even if he doesn't get worshipped, he's a strong guy, he can A, fight without using them and B, it's not like he needs all the fame. He is trying to hold back as much as possible so that his identity as 1 of the Yotsuba, Taurus silver, a war-class mage, the perpetrator of scorched Halloween and one of the members of the 101st battalion doesn't get exposed. @4. You seem to treat her like a Tsundere like Louise from ZnT and Claire from Seirei tsukai no blade dance and that's not her character at all. She's not abusive, really she's just jealous. She never actually takes out her jealously on Tatsuya, at least as far as I remember. Also, if something makes you angry, you should let the people making you angry why you're angry so it doesn't happen again/as often. That's the problem with Tsundere characters like the ones I mentioned above, they just don't sit down and talk about shit. The critical difference between characters like her(Miyuki) and them(The aforementioned) is Miyuki makes her anger/frustration known. She cools the air, lightly freezes junk/emitting a dark aura etc all the while having a slightly angered look on her face. Nothing abusive, she just let's the people involved know she's pissed and they'll react accordingly. Finally, for the response to bold see 3. He's too big of an asset to just flaunt carelessly. Last edited by Libros; 2013-03-02 at 09:36. |
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2013-03-02, 09:35 | Link #3160 | |
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Let me begin this reply and say that I love Miyuki and I can die happily if this novel ends with Miyuki and Tatsuya ending up together. They are siblings but damn it, who gives a shit? They are siblings, so what!? They are a man and a woman first, siblings second! There is nothing wrong with them loving each other as lovers! Doesn't that make there love purer compare to others!? After all, they came from the womb of a single woman! They have each others blood running through their veins! That makes the saying 'made for each other' perfect for them! That is why they are given the title 'Siblings'! That is why they are the perfect lover for each other! In my opinion anyway...... Because of her he is not free to go anywhere he wants/do whatever he wants(she could release him from his guardian duties if she wanted to) Reply: He can do whatever he wants, he has the power to practically force his clan to leave him alone (cough Material Burst cough Mist Dispersal Cough) but you have to remember that the only emotion he has left is the love that he has for his sister, for Miyuki, without that, we can't consider Tatsuya as a human being....In essence, Miyuki makes Tatsuya human..... While he is much better than her in every way she gets to be the heir(and even that happens mostly because they're afraid of him) and not him. Reply: This happened because the Yotsuba is afraid of Tatsuya and they want to put a leash around his neck...In hindsight, Miyuki is the victim here because she is being use to bind Tatsuya to the Yotsuba, and I bet she knows this and this kills her inside...She admits that her brother is better than her, and already feels bad that her brother is considered trash by the clan, and when she becomes head of the Yotsuba Clan, she will change the perspective of the clan when it comes to Tatsuya......... In school she gets to be called the genius, the ice queen and be admired and Tatsuya who has major accomplishment and more astonishing capabilities isn't(well most of them are secret but when you keep adding one thing to another it stops mattering why). Reply: This is beyond their control. Yes, Tatsuya's ability is God-like and we can even consider him a pseudo-God, but you must remember that his abilities are to unique, to powerful to be use in school. He can literally destroy reality in contrast to ordinary magicians who can only alter it. Also, he is in the freaking military and his abilities are considered top-secret, meaning that is he shows it to the public, his freedom would be limited. As for his other talents, who in their right mind would believe that a 15-16 year old teen is Taurus Silver???? Sometimes she gets angry at him for selfish reasons like when girls seems to be interested in him which is NONE OF HER BUSINESS and she even attacked him once with magic(how can someone be so selfish and ungrateful). Reply: What do you expect from a person who is in love? Jealousy is a normal trait for human being, especially for those who are in love...Again, Miyuki is jealousy because, in her eyes, she doesn't have the chance to be with her brother in the way she wants, and that hurts her inside...Also, name any girl in the series so far who can understand Tatsuya better than Miyuki. Name any girl aside from Miyuki who can accept him no matter how broken he is (Yes, for me, Tatsuya is a broken man because he doesn't have emotions and he considers his ability substandard). Also, Miyuki, in terms of power and ability, can stand beside Tatsuya as equals. She follows him EVERYWHERE and while he does says that they're not attached to the hip but seriously the only time they're not together is when they are forced into it like when they have different classes and now it's going to be even worse since he's in the student council. Reply: Tatsuya is Miyuki's guardian. It's his job to protect her to avoid another tragedy that happened to their aunt (You know, their aunt, current head of the Yotsuba clan, the person who was kidnapped, raped, and experimented on when she was 12 years old). Also, Tatsuya needs to protect Miyuki because she is the only one that can make him feel human. In his words, Miyuki is the only one that he can value, remove her from his life, then we have a man, with the power of a God, with the skills of an elite warrior, with a mind of a genius, without any emotions, without any moral compass..........Can you think of a scarier monster than that..... Also, I would like to add that after his mother and aunt experimented on him, the only emotion left within him was sibling love, his instinct to protect his sister, the love that he has for his sister. You may think that this is by design, but I beg the differ....Tatsuya has at least a dozen hundreds of emotions within him at that time, but they were all erase with the exception of the love he has for Miyuki...........That tells me that Tatsuya parted with his emotions but he kept the emotion that he deems the most important and that is his love for his sister, his love for Miyuki......... And that showing, by Tatsuya keeping that one emotion, is the greatest form of devotion a man can give to his beloved................ You can say all you want, but Tatsuya and Miyuki, for me, has something that can be consider pure love, regardless of the situation or the circumstances........ |
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