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Akito Kinomoto · 2012-04-16, 22:36

Generally speaking, is the girl or guy whom you want to win also your favorite girl or guy from the series?

Is the "main" girl or guy necessarily the one who gets the guy or girl?

And finally, does your personal favorite pairing from such a show tend to have your favorite character or characters or the two whom you feel have the best chemistry?

Chiibi · 2012-04-16, 23:14

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Generally speaking, is the girl or guy whom you want to win also your favorite girl or guy from the series?

Yes, almost always. Unless I've "outgrown" the ship. For example, back when I was dumb and naive and not cynical at all, I liked Fushigi Yuugi and I shipped Tamahome and Miaka together pretty hard. Tamahome was also my favorite character. But I'm older now, more cynical, and less tolerant of such sappy relationship drama. My favorite character eventually changed to Nuriko. But that doesn't mean I want MiakaxNuriko now. Nuriko deserves so much better. XD
And sometimes my most liked character doesn't suit the main character. This doesn't happen that much but it does once in a while. Like, I prefer mature and mild-mannered Ichi from Mamotte Lollipop's manga....but Nina (heroine) and Zero suit each other because they're both stupid and immature. XD

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Is the "main" girl or guy necessarily the one who gets the guy or girl?

It truly feels odd if it's not.

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And finally, does your personal favorite pairing from such a show tend to have your favorite character or characters or the two whom you feel have the best chemistry?

But of course! You can't have shipping without chemistry...nor is it possible to really ship two characters together if you don't like either of them.

bhl88 · 2012-04-16, 23:19

In Gatekeepers 21.... the main guy gets someone else.

Obelisk ze Tormentor · 2012-04-16, 23:25

Generally speaking, is the girl or guy whom you want to win also your favorite girl or guy from the series?

Almost always. I mean, if you have a favorite girl in a harem show, you’d want her to win the “best price” which is being together with the main protagonist. Although there are harems where the main protagonist is so useless (stupid, poor, and a pervert) that you don’t want your favorite girl to end up with him. In this case, I’m glad that Ichigo 100% manga goes the way I like, which is:

Spoiler for ending:

Is the "main" girl or guy necessarily the one who gets the guy or girl?

If you’re talking about preference, then I don’t think I just want the main-guy to get the girl(s). Often times, I also want the supporting characters (e.g. the main guy’s male friend, etc) to get a girl too, especially if I found the male supporting character is as (if not more) likeable than the main guy, like in Amagami SS. I also tend to support the supporting guy to take the main guy's place as the "king of harem" if the main guy is too useless to root for

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And finally, does your personal favorite pairing from such a show tend to have your favorite character or characters or the two whom you feel have the best chemistry?

Yes, my favorite pairing tend to have my fave char, and No, my fave pairing doesn't always have the best chemistry. For example, Soyogi in Umi no Misaki. I like her personality the most, yet her chemistry with the main-guy is the poorest.

Unfortunately, in many harems I’ve seen, the main girl (which I know will win the guy in the end) is often the most boring girl from the bunch (e.g. Ranma ½) or just plain annoying tsundere (e.g. Love Hina and Ranma again). Nevertheless, there are cases where I do like the main girl (e.g. Onegai Teacher and I”s). There are also cases where I like each girl in their own way and doesn’t matter to me who ends up with the main protag

(e.g. Hayate no Gotoku! and The World God Only Knows).

Chiibi · 2012-04-16, 23:46

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Unfortunately, in many harems I’ve seen, the main girl (which I know will win the guy in the end) is often the most boring girl from the bunch (e.g. Ranma ½)

Ugh, I know what you mean! I hate Akane...

She's also the least pretty of all the girls...I mean WTF Rumiko!?

lol

Archon_Wing · 2012-04-16, 23:51

In general yes I would want said preferred pairing and character to "win". But I guess this kinda bothers me that the other people who didn't "win" simply don't get resolved and frequently left as loose ends when it's fairly obvious that it doesn't work like that. Really, let's take Clannad AS where you want me to believe that all those attractive female characters haven't gotten with anyone in all this time [or it's not important which to me is even worse]. Oh, and one person's boyfriend just got vaporized out of existence. X_X

Also, when it comes to this thing, I almost never prefer the "default" pairing the most, so I get left hanging more often than not. For this reason harem often tends to be one of my least preferred kinds of anime.

However, I guess I'm rooting more for the character than the pairing as shipping I don't care aobut.

MisaoFan · 2012-04-17, 03:49

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Generally speaking, is the girl or guy whom you want to win also your favorite girl or guy from the series?

This one is a serious generalization. I'm a big fan of Motoko from Love Hina, but she doesn't end up with Keitaro. I almost never cheer the other girls winning the guy's heart now, so I generally want the "default" (first heroine) tsunderes winning for him.

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Is the "main" girl or guy necessarily the one who gets the guy or girl?

Yes. Another serious generalization.

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And finally, does your personal favorite pairing from such a show tend to have your favorite character or characters or the two whom you feel have the best chemistry?

Sometimes. I like Mafuyu and Sasha from Seikon no Qwaser, they have a good chemistry in them.

starlol · 2012-04-17, 07:14

Yes. But there are also a lot of times i feel that my favourite character is too good for the main character or my favourite character obviously stand no chance ending up with the main character. In the 2nd case, i will root for the character that i feel that suits the main character the best which usually happens to be my 2nd favourite character.

Yes. It will be weird if the main character does not end up with the other main.
I tend to watch shows with an obvious main character.

Favourite character if i like the main character and feel that the main character deserve the character i like the most!
Chemistry if i feel that the direction of the story and ending can be much more satisfactory if the main ends up with that character more than ANY other character in the show.

OceanBlue · 2012-04-17, 15:08

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Generally speaking, is the girl or guy whom you want to win also your favorite girl or guy from the series?

Generally. I want to see them happy, so if they want to be with the protagonists, that's what I would want. That's how most harems are set up.

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Is the "main" girl or guy necessarily the one who gets the guy or girl?

In most harems, I guess.

Edit: Ah, I see. It just depends, I guess. Sometimes my favorite character is the main heroine, sometimes another girl is the main heroine.

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And finally, does your personal favorite pairing from such a show tend to have your favorite character or characters or the two whom you feel have the best chemistry?

For the most part, yes. My favorite pairings tend to go along with my favorite characters.

RegalStar · 2012-04-17, 15:26

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Generally speaking, is the girl or guy whom you want to win also your favorite girl or guy from the series?

I would tend to say no, especially in animes and other non-interactive fiction. I tend to value the chemistry between the pairs more than whether I like the individual characters or not, and I think in general writers will at least put in some effort to make their pairs work, so I tend to support the canon pairing because if the writer is bad enough that he/she can't make the main pairing plausible for me, then chances are the writer is bad enough that I'm not interested in the story enough to keep following it anyways. My favourite character on the other hand depends on entirely the characters themselves, so they don't necessarily overlap and even when they do, it can more or less be classified as coincidence.

In galges and omnibus series and such, I would probably end up supporting pairing with my favourite characters more. Exceptions exist, though.

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Is the "main" girl or guy necessarily the one who gets the guy or girl?

Not to me. I consider the canon girl/guy "main", and if that's not applicable I would then consider the girl most instrumental to the story, or if that's not applicable either, then I'm perfectly happy considering a series to have no "main" girl or guy.

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And finally, does your personal favorite pairing from such a show tend to have your favorite character or characters or the two whom you feel have the best chemistry?

Again, liking the chemistry between a pairing and liking a character are two different things to me. Out of all the stories I read that even resembles anything harem, there's only one non-canon pairing that I actually like more than the canon (Ryuuji/Ami), while in probably about 1/3 to half of them my favourite girl/guy is not part of the canon/main pairing.

Anime-fan10 · 2012-04-17, 17:49

I usually prefer the main male character and main female character to end up w/ each other, but there are a few times when I prefer another female character. Most of the anime I've seen have ended up w/ the main characters together, but there have been a couple of them that stayed away from that direction.

Spoiler for Ichigo 100%:

Kyuu · 2012-04-17, 18:16

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Originally Posted by Akito_Kinomoto

Generally speaking, is the girl or guy whom you want to win also your favorite girl or guy from the series?

Is the "main" girl or guy necessarily the one who gets the guy or girl?

And finally, does your personal favorite pairing from such a show tend to your favorite character or characters or the two whom you feel have the best chemistry?

Usually, but not always.

Yet, if you look at my comments on Mashiro Iro Symphony. You can see my butthurt regarding Sena:
http://forums.animesuki.com/showthre...102145&page=65

Nevertheless, not ever main character is likable. Shows like this - I tend to drop anyways. I tried giving Guilty Crown a chance - but - forget it. I dropped this series on the hope for the main girl to just outright dispose of the main guy. And well... that did not happen.

All-in-all...

Character chemistry is very important. If you have two characters who gel - you tend to favor their success together, rather than their failure. Doing so, it creates a "happy" progression.

Qikz · 2012-04-17, 19:33

I'm not going to lie, I think Harem shows are better when the guy gets all the girls, preferably at the same time, but that usually ends up being a rather adult affair which I'm in no way saying I enjoy in any form at all :shiftyeyes:

In normal anime/manga though, I usually prefer it to be more open ended as the hilarity can continue with the various rivalrys and what not (Just look at To Love Ru Darkness with Momo trying to create a proper Harem for Rito). <3

Vexx · 2012-04-17, 19:34

Sometimes... I'm happier if the girl I find the most appealing *doesn't* "win" (horse race bleh) because the guy is not a prize

Echoes · 2012-04-20, 12:09

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Sometimes... I'm happier if the girl I find the most appealing *doesn't* "win" (horse race bleh) because the guy is not a prize

Heh, yeah. When the male protagonist is either uninteresting, or downright unappealing, the best you can hope for is that your favorite girl remains single.

Haak · 2012-04-20, 13:01

Well here are all the list of harem anime (or anime where the guy has more than one love interest) that I've watched:

AirTV

Spoiler for Airtv:

Ano Natsu

Spoiler for Ano Natsu:

Bakemonogatari

Spoiler for Bakemonogatari:

Clannad

Spoiler for Clannad:

Haganai

Spoiler for Boku wa Tomodachi:

Bungaku Shoujo

Spoiler for Bungaku Shoujo:

Denpa Onna

Spoiler for Denpa:

Fate/Stay Night

Spoiler for FSN Visual Novel:

Guilty Crown

Spoiler for Guilty Crown:

Kanon

Spoiler for Kanon:

Ore no Imouto

Spoiler for ga Konna ni Kawaii Wake ga Nai:

Tsukihime

Spoiler for Visual Novel:

Shugo Chara

Spoiler for Shugo Chara:

Steins;Gate

Spoiler for Steins;Gate:

TAMNI series

Spoiler for Majutsu and Railgun:

Toradora!

Spoiler for Toradora!:

True Tears

Spoiler for Mari Fucking Okada:

Yosuga no Sora

Spoiler for Lol:

So generally what I’ve found is that what matters in me liking a canon pairing is whether or not the romance is actually good. Whether or not it’s my favourite girl might factor also (in cases where the canon romance is bad, for example) but it isn’t the main factor.

Vexx · 2012-04-20, 18:54

Generally, I'll take any "game solution" other than the "no-ending" or "reset". Those are appalling.

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Obelisk ze Tormentor Black Steel Knight Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Indonesia	Generally speaking, is the girl or guy whom you want to win also your favorite girl or guy from the series? Almost always. I mean, if you have a favorite girl in a harem show, you’d want her to win the “best price” which is being together with the main protagonist. Although there are harems where the main protagonist is so useless (stupid, poor, and a pervert) that you don’t want your favorite girl to end up with him. In this case, I’m glad that *Ichigo 100%* manga goes the way I like, which is: Spoiler for ending: my fave girl Toujou Aya doesn’t end up with the main protagonist. Is the "main" girl or guy necessarily the one who gets the guy or girl? If you’re talking about preference, then I don’t think I just want the main-guy to get the girl(s). Often times, I also want the supporting characters (e.g. the main guy’s male friend, etc) to get a girl too, especially if I found the male supporting character is as (if not more) likeable than the main guy, like in *Amagami SS. I also tend to support the supporting guy to take the main guy's place as the "king of harem" if the main guy is too useless to root for . And finally, does your personal favorite pairing from such a show tend to have your favorite character or characters or the two whom you feel have the best chemistry?* Yes, my favorite pairing tend to have my fave char, and No, my fave pairing doesn't always have the best chemistry. For example, Soyogi in *Umi no Misaki. I like her personality the most, yet her chemistry with the main-guy is the poorest. Unfortunately, in many harems I’ve seen, the main girl (which I know will win the guy in the end) is often the most boring girl from the bunch (e.g. Ranma ½) or just plain annoying tsundere (e.g. Love Hina and Ranma* again). Nevertheless, there are cases where I do like the main girl (e.g. Onegai Teacher and I”s). There are also cases where I like each girl in their own way and doesn’t matter to me who ends up with the main protag (e.g. *Hayate no Gotoku!* and *The World God Only Knows*). __________________

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Anime-fan10 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: U.S.	I usually prefer the main male character and main female character to end up w/ each other, but there are a few times when I prefer another female character. Most of the anime I've seen have ended up w/ the main characters together, but there have been a couple of them that stayed away from that direction. Spoiler for Ichigo 100%: I remember when the main character didn't end up w/ the girl who had brunette hair in the manga. I was annoyed b.c. that was my favorite couple.

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Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 66	Sometimes... I'm happier if the girl I find the most appealing doesn't "win" (horse race bleh) because the guy is not a prize __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Novel series rough drafts; vol. 1 thru vol. 3 complete Volume 4 in work, Visit the thread for short stories!

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Haak Me, An Intellectual Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: UK Age: 33	Well here are all the list of harem anime (or anime where the guy has more than one love interest) that I've watched: AirTV Spoiler for Airtv: Favourite girl was Misuzu but still apathetic to her “romance” with the MC Ano Natsu Spoiler for Ano Natsu: Favourite girl was Kanna and wanted her to win but the canon pairing is good too. Bakemonogatari Spoiler for Bakemonogatari: No favourite girl but prefers the canon pairing to any other romance. Clannad Spoiler for Clannad: Favourite girl is Kyou but like the canon pairing better Haganai Spoiler for Boku wa Tomodachi: Favourite girl is Senna and would like her to win since I’m apathetic to any other pairing Bungaku Shoujo Spoiler for Bungaku Shoujo: Favourite girl is Miu (Lol) but apathetic to any actual pairing Denpa Onna Spoiler for Denpa: Favourite girl Maekawa but apathetic to any pairing. Fate/Stay Night Spoiler for FSN Visual Novel: Favourite girl is Saber but prefers the romance of ShirouxSakura Guilty Crown Spoiler for Guilty Crown: Favourite girl is Hare and wanted her to win since the canon pairing sucks Kanon Spoiler for Kanon: No favourite girl. They all suck Ore no Imouto Spoiler for ga Konna ni Kawaii Wake ga Nai: Favourite girl is Kuroneko and wanted her to win since the “other pairing” sucks. Tsukihime Spoiler for Visual Novel: Favourite girl is Arcueid but prefers the romance of ShikixHisui Shugo Chara Spoiler for Shugo Chara: Favourite guy is Kukai and wouldn’t have minded him winning since the canon pairing did suck a little (though it could’ve been a lot worse) Steins;Gate Spoiler for Steins;Gate: No favourite girl or pairing. Mayushi and Kurisu were both equally good. TAMNI series Spoiler for Majutsu and Railgun: My favourite girl is Saten and yes I would like her to win but since that’s never going to happen I suppose I’m just apathetic to any romance since most of them suck. Toradora! Spoiler for Toradora!: My Favourite girl is Minori but prefer the canon pairing. True Tears Spoiler for Mari Fucking Okada: Favourite girl is Noe and would’ve liked her to win since the canon pairing sucked. Yosuga no Sora Spoiler for Lol: No favourite girl. They were all reasonably good romances. So generally what I’ve found is that what matters in me liking a canon pairing is whether or not the romance is actually good. Whether or not it’s my favourite girl might factor also (in cases where the canon romance is bad, for example) but it isn’t the main factor. __________________ MAL \| AnimeSuki Choice Awards 2020 Winners

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starlol Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011	Yes. But there are also a lot of times i feel that my favourite character is too good for the main character or my favourite character obviously stand no chance ending up with the main character. In the 2nd case, i will root for the character that i feel that suits the main character the best which usually happens to be my 2nd favourite character. Yes. It will be weird if the main character does not end up with the other main. I tend to watch shows with an obvious main character. Favourite character if i like the main character and feel that the main character deserve the character i like the most! Chemistry if i feel that the direction of the story and ending can be much more satisfactory if the main ends up with that character more than ANY other character in the show.

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Qikz Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Age: 33	I'm not going to lie, I think Harem shows are better when the guy gets all the girls, preferably at the same time, but that usually ends up being a rather adult affair which I'm in no way saying I enjoy in any form at all :shiftyeyes: In normal anime/manga though, I usually prefer it to be more open ended as the hilarity can continue with the various rivalrys and what not (Just look at To Love Ru Darkness with Momo trying to create a proper Harem for Rito). <3

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Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 66	Generally, I'll take any "game solution" other than the "no-ending" or "reset". Those are appalling. __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Novel series rough drafts; vol. 1 thru vol. 3 complete Volume 4 in work, Visit the thread for short stories!