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creb · 2013-04-29, 21:19

I love Cersei.

Lena Headey has portrayed her perfectly beyond my wildest dreams.

I recall her saying in an interview that fans hate Cersei so much that they translate that hate to her as a person when she goes to the various Cons, etc. That's a sign you're doing a good job.

Most of the "worst" characters in this show seem to have the best acting performances. Joeffery, Cersei, Jaimie, Tywin etc. It's the more "pure" characters like John Snow who I feel are poorly acted. Kit Harrington, to me, is another Orlando Bloom/Legolas in the making, and I just cringe every time he's on screen (though I'm very aware that he-like Bloom-has a legion of female fans). I actually really enjoy him in the books. Though Harrington had a few nice moments in this last episode, so there's hope for him yet.

Midnight Commander · 2013-04-29, 23:53

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I love seeing Tywin knock Cersei down a few pegs. She's such a hate-able character.

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I loved that. That was awesome. I literally laughed out loud. She was reveling in Tyrion's situation and then get's slapped in the face.

I've really been looking forward to a confrontation between Tywin and Joffery. He showed in episode 4 that he was quite confident he wouldn't let Joffery walk all over him as he has others. I really enjoyed the way Tryion has handled him, especially the time Joffery was about to have the knights guard cut Sansa in front of everyone. But Tywin just has his own special way of putting people in their place, and leaves them speachless.

Xagzan · 2013-04-30, 00:02

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Originally Posted by creb

I love Cersei.

Lena Headey has portrayed her perfectly beyond my wildest dreams.

I recall her saying in an interview that fans hate Cersei so much that they translate that hate to her as a person when she goes to the various Cons, etc. That's a sign you're doing a good job.

Most of the "worst" characters in this show seem to have the best acting performances. Joeffery, Cersei, Jaimie, Tywin etc. It's the more "pure" characters like John Snow who I feel are poorly acted. Kit Harrington, to me, is another Orlando Bloom/Legolas in the making, and I just cringe every time he's on screen (though I'm very aware that he-like Bloom-has a legion of female fans). I actually really enjoy him in the books. Though Harrington had a few nice moments in this last episode, so there's hope for him yet.

Oh, I could never hate Lena Headey if I saw her at a Con

Might not be able to get her name pronunciation right, but couldn't hate her, no matter how despicable her character is.

And I also can't wait to see Tywin take a crack at Joffrey. That exchange between him and Cersei was badass.

"Maybe you should try stopping him from doing what he likes."

"I will."

With authority, man

MrTerrorist · 2013-04-30, 11:05

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Originally Posted by GDB

Arranged marriages are commonplace in this sort of setting. Both in the real world and the fantasy world.

Yes, but what Tywin did was way overboard. He's having his daughter marry a man whose sister is marrying his grandson.

That's gonna cause a Hasburg type problem.

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And I also can't wait to see Tywin take a crack at Joffrey. That exchange between him and Cersei was badass.

"Maybe you should try stopping him from doing what he likes."

"I will."

With authority, man

So how will grandfather treat his unruly grandson?
Scream at him? Slap him? Or punch him?

CJ_Walker · 2013-05-01, 21:21

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The circumstances behind this are far less common though, at least with Tyrion, what with Sansa being a hostage from a family they're at war with. Though it was still technically something on the table with Joffrey, so it's not that big of a changer.

This, also though if cersei hadn't opened her big fat mouth about the Whats her face Tyrell, Tywin wouldn't have found out about it and forced her into an unwanted marriage. So its more egg on her face then anything.

Roger Rambo · 2013-05-01, 21:28

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That's gonna cause a Hasburg type problem.

That's a bonus in terms of inheritance. It means that wealth/power gets more concentrated.

MrTerrorist · 2013-05-04, 11:30

8 Game of Thrones characters who are better on TV than in the books

ChainLegacy · 2013-05-04, 15:46

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Originally Posted by creb

I love Cersei.

Lena Headey has portrayed her perfectly beyond my wildest dreams.

I recall her saying in an interview that fans hate Cersei so much that they translate that hate to her as a person when she goes to the various Cons, etc. That's a sign you're doing a good job.

Most of the "worst" characters in this show seem to have the best acting performances. Joeffery, Cersei, Jaimie, Tywin etc. It's the more "pure" characters like John Snow who I feel are poorly acted. Kit Harrington, to me, is another Orlando Bloom/Legolas in the making, and I just cringe every time he's on screen (though I'm very aware that he-like Bloom-has a legion of female fans). I actually really enjoy him in the books. Though Harrington had a few nice moments in this last episode, so there's hope for him yet.

You're completely right - Joffrey and Cersei have been portrayed marvelously. I love to hate them.

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Originally Posted by Midnight Commander

I've really been looking forward to a confrontation between Tywin and Joffery. He showed in episode 4 that he was quite confident he wouldn't let Joffery walk all over him as he has others. I really enjoyed the way Tryion has handled him, especially the time Joffery was about to have the knights guard cut Sansa in front of everyone. But Tywin just has his own special way of putting people in their place, and leaves them speachless.

Yup, I've been looking forward to it too. Hopefully we get to see this soon.

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Originally Posted by MrTerrorist

Yes, but what Tywin did was way overboard. He's having his daughter marry a man whose sister is marrying his grandson.

That's gonna cause a Hasburg type problem.

That Hapsburg problem was due to inbreeding - this scenario doesn't involve any. The ironic part about your comment is Joffrey himself is the result of inbreeding (and genetically, potentially the 'worst' kind between siblings), whereas this isn't...

Xagzan · 2013-05-04, 15:50

Still, what would that make Cersei if she married Margaery's brother? Joffrey's mother, aunt, and sister in law?

MrTerrorist · 2013-05-04, 15:58

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Still, what would that make Cersei if she married Margaery's brother? Joffrey's mother, aunt, and sister in law?

And that's the problem i have with Tywin's plan.
Clearly he doesn't realize he just mess up the family tree by a doing an "I'm my own Grandpa" problem.

ChainLegacy · 2013-05-04, 16:26

I dunno, when your parents are also your aunt and uncle, I wouldn't be worried about any further family title additions.

Midnight Commander · 2013-05-06, 12:47

This week's episode wasn't that exciting, but still I still enjoyed it. The best part to me was the brief conversation between Tywin and Olena; I thought it was very entertaining. That Petyr Baelish is really beginning to show his horns... Was that his ship(with the mocking bird on the sail) leaving without him?

GDB · 2013-05-06, 13:15

I don't think it left without him, but rather he left on it. Assuming it was his, of course (and given how Sansa is crying at its departure, I'm sure it is).

killer3000ad · 2013-05-06, 13:44

From what I gather, Sansa is crying cause she missed her chance to get out of that place, and now she's being forced to marry a dwarf when just earlier she thought she was going to marry a dashing (albeit gay) swordman.
Also episode 7 preview.

YouTube

https://youtu.be/f6Bo1kSpDAk

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Roger Rambo · 2013-05-06, 14:32

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From what I gather, Sansa is crying cause she missed her chance to get out of that place, and now she's being forced to marry a dwarf when just earlier she thought she was going to marry a dashing (albeit gay) swordman.

I think the prospect of having to hang around the capitol is probably the biggest issue. Loras is a nice bonus, but after the disappointment with Joffrey, I don't think romance is her biggest concern.

Xagzan · 2013-05-06, 16:08

Poor Ros

creb · 2013-05-06, 20:54

I think those who were wondering about the Cersei x Loras pairing likely got their answers as to why the writers did it that way in this last episode.

Spoiler for Speculation, but also one major spoiler for non-book readers.:

Anyways, my favorite moment in the episode was Tyrion and Cersei (what else is new), almost...bonding as actual siblings over their "cruel" fate their father thrust upon them. Though, as a whole, this was more akin to episodes 1-3, than episodes 4 and 5, ie: almost on the boring side. Oh, and of course, Theon's predicament is about as deliciously sadistic as I could imagine it.

Spoiler for Spoilers? I guess?:

Edit: The scene I'm discussing in the last spoiler tag did not occur in the books, and I personally do not think it's a spoiler in any way, but I agree that it's less about the poster's intentions and more about the reader's impressions.

Guardian Enzo · 2013-05-07, 04:01

I really think you should spoiler tag your last paragraph.

GDB · 2013-05-07, 07:41

I don't see how it's a spoiler. Anyone with half a brain can tell that was foreshadowing out the wazoo. The difference is just that we non-book readers don't know what it's foreshadowing.

Guardian Enzo · 2013-05-07, 09:17

Well, I really can't respond to that without making the problem worse, so...

2013-04-29, 21:19	Link #681
creb Hiding Under Your Bed Join Date: May 2008	I love Cersei. Lena Headey has portrayed her perfectly beyond my wildest dreams. I recall her saying in an interview that fans hate Cersei so much that they translate that hate to her as a person when she goes to the various Cons, etc. That's a sign you're doing a good job. Most of the "worst" characters in this show seem to have the best acting performances. Joeffery, Cersei, Jaimie, Tywin etc. It's the more "pure" characters like John Snow who I feel are poorly acted. Kit Harrington, to me, is another Orlando Bloom/Legolas in the making, and I just cringe every time he's on screen (though I'm very aware that he-like Bloom-has a legion of female fans). I actually really enjoy him in the books. Though Harrington had a few nice moments in this last episode, so there's hope for him yet. __________________ http://myanimelist.net/animelist/creb http://myanimelist.net/mangalist/creb It feels like years since they've been updated, btw. Also, cake.

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MrTerrorist Takao Tsundere Cruiser Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Classified	8 Game of Thrones characters who are better on TV than in the books __________________

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killer3000ad Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Australia Age: 41	From what I gather, Sansa is crying cause she missed her chance to get out of that place, and now she's being forced to marry a dwarf when just earlier she thought she was going to marry a dashing (albeit gay) swordman. Also episode 7 preview. YouTube https://youtu.be/f6Bo1kSpDAk Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload? __________________

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creb Hiding Under Your Bed Join Date: May 2008	I think those who were wondering about the Cersei x Loras pairing likely got their answers as to why the writers did it that way in this last episode. Spoiler for Speculation, but also one major spoiler for non-book readers.: I predict that it was so they can have Jaimie appoint Loras to the Kingsguard, to save his sister from marriage, and possibly add more weight to Jaimie's changing outlook on life by having him do something against his father's wishes. Anyways, my favorite moment in the episode was Tyrion and Cersei (what else is new), almost...bonding as actual siblings over their "cruel" fate their father thrust upon them. Though, as a whole, this was more akin to episodes 1-3, than episodes 4 and 5, ie: almost on the boring side. Oh, and of course, Theon's predicament is about as deliciously sadistic as I could imagine it. Spoiler for Spoilers? I guess?: Lastly, I imagine anyone who reads the books is feverishly wondering how much to read into the interplay between Arya and Melisandre. I'm not even going to pretend to remember every character's eye-color, but I'm sure more...passionate fans have already compiled a list of likely suspects. Edit: The scene I'm discussing in the last spoiler tag did not occur in the books, and I personally do not think it's a spoiler in any way, but I agree that it's less about the poster's intentions and more about the reader's impressions. __________________ http://myanimelist.net/animelist/creb http://myanimelist.net/mangalist/creb It feels like years since they've been updated, btw. Also, cake. Last edited by creb; 2013-05-07 at 11:43.

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Xagzan Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009	Still, what would that make Cersei if she married Margaery's brother? Joffrey's mother, aunt, and sister in law?

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ChainLegacy 廉頗 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Massachusetts Age: 34	I dunno, when your parents are also your aunt and uncle, I wouldn't be worried about any further family title additions.

2013-05-06, 12:47	Link #692
Midnight Commander Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Command center, the ship's bridge	This week's episode wasn't that exciting, but still I still enjoyed it. The best part to me was the brief conversation between Tywin and Olena; I thought it was very entertaining. That Petyr Baelish is really beginning to show his horns... Was that his ship(with the mocking bird on the sail) leaving without him?

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GDB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 38	I don't think it left without him, but rather he left on it. Assuming it was his, of course (and given how Sansa is crying at its departure, I'm sure it is).

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Xagzan Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009	Poor Ros

2013-05-07, 07:41	Link #699
GDB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 38	I don't see how it's a spoiler. Anyone with half a brain can tell that was foreshadowing out the wazoo. The difference is just that we non-book readers don't know what it's foreshadowing.