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Perfect 10 | 365 | 44.95% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 199 | 24.51% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 92 | 11.33% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 76 | 9.36% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 31 | 3.82% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 20 | 2.46% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 9 | 1.11% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 4 | 0.49% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 2 | 0.25% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 14 | 1.72% | |
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2008-11-10, 17:27 | Link #402 |
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well KMF's aside
i really want to know what they were thinking with the whole LIVE geass thing did they forget that when someone is under the command of the geass they forget what they were doing at the time (due to brain damage coused by the geass) how did they forget that part they completely changed the nature of suzaku's geass from ep 20 on (he can shrag it off during his fight with bismark) why would they do that wasnt giving suzaku the albion enough of a hax (and he was pretty hax before that) why did they feel the need to give him superpowers too
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2008-11-10, 17:27 | Link #403 | |
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Monica and Dorothea didn't have personal frames or they would have had them like Bismarck did. This is a problem where Japan confuses honor with stupidity 47 Ronin take a year to kill the enemy of their dead lord and then die getting revenge? Honorable Choshu trying to expel all the foreigners out of Japan? Stupid Self sacrifice for nothing isn't honorable its stupid. |
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2008-11-10, 17:43 | Link #405 | ||
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It was pure lazyness to get rid of characters they no longer had used for without taking up much time. As for me comparing them to Tomino, if they didn't want me to compare them to Tomino than they shouldn't be writing real robot anime. If they want to be considered the best than they must write like the best, in this case Mobile Suit Gundam. Instead their are several scenes (like Suzaku vs KoR, and Kallen vs Luciano) that are obviously written after watching the final episode of Gundam Seed Destiny. |
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2008-11-10, 18:03 | Link #407 | |
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I am not going to make excuses like the KoR all had personal Knightmare Frames but two of them didn't have them with them. They didn't have them, because Taniguchi, Okouchi and Sunrise where lazy. |
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2008-11-11, 11:33 | Link #408 |
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Bismarck had his because of two things-
a) He had brought his Frame to Japan from Turn 17, and kept it with him. b) Monica spent most of her screen time playing second fiddle to Charles as the operator of a vessel. That job does not require a KMF. Dorothea was likely hastily recruited to replace Luciano and not given a Frame of her own. Quit letting your bias surface. |
2008-11-11, 12:07 | Link #409 |
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i think that Dorothea wasnt a replacement for luciano
she was a KOR in her own right (albit a rather sudden addition to the cast) and she and monica may not have had a one off costume frame to begin with cornellia didnt have one (or gilford while were at it) the glaston knights didnt, nor did the valkyrie squad (all were using MP models) since the lancelot had only been invented a year before season 1 it possible that most of britannia were still using the old 6th gens which would include those KOR who's role were not KMF combat based (monica's actual role seems to have been as commander of charles's great britannia (the ship) they could pilot KMF's well enough (then again so could tamaki) but their actual role didnt have to be in that field and when going against the new britannian emperor (who controls most of the army as well as the means to produce vincents) its probable that they had to make do with what ever they could get their hands on (namely, mook frames) and from the looks of things they were pretty dumb about it (since they were led by bismark rather then shnizel) instead of joining shnizels faction they went after lelouch on their own and got wiped out by the albion (which both gino bismark and monica knew about in advance)
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2008-11-11, 12:11 | Link #410 |
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Of course Cornelia, Guilford, the Valkyries and the Glastons didn't have their own unique Frames (though the Glastons, up until around Turn 23, were the only users of the Gareths), they weren't a part of the Rounds. As for Monica and Dorothea...eh.
And as for Dorothea, well, she must have been recruited very recently, as, in Turn 2, which showed all the Rounds, she wasn't there. |
2008-11-11, 15:10 | Link #411 | |
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If I have a god damn elite unit I am making sure that elite unit has access to their weapons. You don't give the marines knives do you? |
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2008-11-11, 15:13 | Link #413 |
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In fact Marines are given knives. Knives don't jam, they don't run out of ammo, and they can do things a gun can't. That's beside the point, though. Lelouch took over Britannia quick, and the first thing he would have done is secure pretty much every military center they had. Assuming those two had custom frames, which there's no reason to doubt they would, Lelouch probably locked them down. Bismarck and Gino had the good fortune to have theirs with them at the time. Monica and Dorothea, not so much.
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2008-11-11, 15:16 | Link #414 | |
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Considering that Code Geass operates on the belief that the mecha makes the man then the KoR having massively inferior weapons doomed them from the start.
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No they bring all their weapons with them, if Monica and Dorothea had personal frames why didn't they have them with them. They where at war they could be needed at any time, if Dorothea or Monica where actual elite soldiers they would have brought their mechas. What happens if the place their in is ambushed? Dorothea and Monica go out in mook suits and get shot down? They where no artistic reason to show us that, and all that managed to accomplish is to show that it takes no skill to win fights in the universe of Code Geass. |
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2008-11-11, 15:21 | Link #415 | |
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are you saying bismark was out classed due to machine potential alone he was matching suzaku move for move until his geass command kicked in i dont think the albion was that much stronger then the normal lancelot model it just had energy wings (the rest of the weapons are twicked up, but are still the same)
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2008-11-11, 15:32 | Link #416 | |
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Well two of them could have been defeated by a baby, the fact that Bismarck's mecha is close to Albion does make it for a close fight. The only time actually skill comes up was in the Cornelia vs. Lelouch fight, all others where won with machines alone. Its one of the reasons why I consider Code Geass R2 not to be a true mecha series. |
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2008-11-11, 15:37 | Link #417 |
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Again.
Monica- spent three of her five episodes on the Great Britannia. Didn't have access to a Frame, and probably flew with the other Rounds to find their Frames locked down, save for the Tristan, which was with Schneizel. Dorothea- new addition, probably had a Frame in store, but, oh, guess what, it was locked the fuck down. And skill does play a factor. The fact is, though, that the Albion, say it with me, is above all other Frames except the SEITEN. No other Frame or pilot could hope to beat it because the Albion was that advanced and Suzaku was that good. Kallen was his only equal, and superior, since she technically beat him for good in Turn 25. |
2008-11-11, 15:43 | Link #418 |
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and gino's trsitain devider was powerfull enough to smash the shinkiro's shields with its sword
but gino still lost completely skill does play a big role in combat since a lesser pilot could not use the albions power to its full potntial (Lloyd did say that it was built speceificlly for suzaku's use, meaning that it was built with his level of skill in mind unlike the original lancelot which he was just handed) the same applies to kallen and the SEITEN it was a superpowerfull machine (strongest KMF in the show) but no one else could have piloted it effectively (and were still not sure just how much of its potential kallen could unlock, probably not 100%)
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2008-11-11, 15:51 | Link #419 | |
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All other fights where won by the better mecha, a baby could have defeated Monica and Dorothea. Its one of the reasons why I hope Taniguchi and Okouchi never write mecha again, they are decent writers (as long as they don't get lazy like the did the second half of R2), but horrible mecha writers. |
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2008-11-11, 15:53 | Link #420 |
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...Sorry, are you blind?
You're not even fucking bothering to read what I'm typing and spouting hatred instead, aren't you? A one-sided opinion? That's called bias. Plus, a baby doesn't know to to use a goddamn KMF, does it? Point is null and void. |
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