2010-12-28, 20:09 | Link #2121 | |
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I enjoy the fact that instead of just doing a big long Sora arc that would have been dragged out between Nao and Sora, they decided to take two other really provocative characters, Oujosama and Miko-sama, and give them their spotlights as well. |
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2010-12-28, 23:22 | Link #2122 | |
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2010-12-29, 19:28 | Link #2124 |
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Ironically, despite how much I loved the Kasugano twins, my favorite character in the show is Nao. Maybe she had good roles in her own arc and Sora's. In her own arc she become a heroine after Haru failed to get the hero role much like Kazuha's and Akira's arcs. She also the biggest winner than Haru as she not just able to have sex with Haru in the end but also with Sora's blessing. Its a win-win situation for both Nao and Sora regarldless how much Sora hated it. At least Sora learn that she already had unbreakable bond with Haru.
In Sora's arc she was nearly raped by Haru and caught him having sex with his own sister but still able to forgive him. She also remained optimistic when the twins left the village(as she and rest of the villagers thought but the twins' fates remained uncertain) and able to lecture Kozue to think the same way. What I hate is people calling her as "slut" because she raped Haru when they both kids but she never slept with any boys at all. When she almost get raped by Haru people never give the same reaction towoards him. Maybe it is easier to hate a female character than a male one except Makoto Itou, the biggest horndog in non-hentai anime and fortunately Haru never followed his path. |
2010-12-29, 19:54 | Link #2125 |
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This opens up that whole mess of psychosociological issues that come up around this board every so often. The Cliffnotes version is that different expectations for the sexes, when put into practice, can come across as weird and hypocritical, and just a little bit stupid.
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2010-12-30, 05:33 | Link #2126 |
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Pixiv collection for Yosuga no Sora most of the pics are Sora's though
http://www.mediafire.com/?ic16ku11cxi5oem i wonder if any OVA will be made?
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2010-12-30, 07:35 | Link #2127 | |
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2010-12-30, 17:53 | Link #2130 |
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Please, no, that OVA was horrible. :/ If they're gonna do one, I really, really really hope it's done by the same team, and part of the same canon. They kinda teased Kozue's arc in the last ep, they'd be jerks if they didn't do one. But I'll take anything (extended Sora arc? yes plz) as long as it doesn't end up like the PL OVA.
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2010-12-30, 18:16 | Link #2131 | |||
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Alright Ascaloth I'm going to quote some of your review to reply to some of the points you made.
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However, while the format in general tends to be inferior, I feel that Yosuga no Sora so far has been the best executor of said format thus far that I have seen. This is why I don't agree with your statements about sacrificing "too" much character development. Each individual arc and the cameos of some of the characters did enough to deliver the essence of each girl. I don't honestly believe you can sit back in your chair and be questioning yourself about what each character is like, and that is the beauty of this anime. Also, please explain how any of the other characters besides Haru were inconsistent in different arcs? Haruka is not a big deal considering that he is making different decisions in each arc, so obviously he is essentially a slightly different person in each arc. The whole point of omnibus is "...what if he did this..." If he was the exact same person every arc, there would not have been any branching off in the first place. The essence of his character is the same no matter which arc you watch. His idea of "trying to find love else where" that was presented in Sora's arc is consistent with the other arcs. In those arcs he was able to, in Sora's he wasn't. This should make it clear that he has to be a little different in each arc for it to work. Again, would you care to make the case on how he was so different? I can't see it. Quote:
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2010-12-30, 19:36 | Link #2132 | |
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btw, I certainly wouldn't mind a YnS H-ova. (maybe with kozue/yahiro)
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The last time "male lead fixes problems of sad girls" was fresh, it was called Kanon. Quote:
Kazuha and Akira. Why is the focus solely on the father in the former's arc, but on the mother in the latter's arc? What, exactly, is stopping them from resolving both issues at once? There is a very clear link in the issues in both arcs, so why does it look like both sides of the situation are isolated in completely different worlds? Because they are, for no good reason I can see, save the apparent desire to give both girls their chance to show themselves in all their sexual glory. Really, every girl becomes passive when they're not the heroine of their own route, and I don't know why. I get it's to keep the focus on the girl of the moment, but it doesn't make sense how the other girls all but fade into the background, because I don't think social relationships work like that. Especially not, give how Haruka is apparently such a pheromone machine in the first episode.... Quote:
Yes, Haruka is essentially the same character in all arcs....which raises the question of why did he make each particular choice in each particular arc. Why did this Haruka choose to spend his time with Kazuha, and that one chose to do so with Akira instead? Why was the other Haruka able to make it work with Nao, and yet another one ended up losing his shit when it comes to Sora? Clearly, each iteration of Haruka was slightly different in his personality and motivations....the question is, what were those differences, and how come they were there? I cannot get a grasp on Haruka's character, pretty much. It's true that the sister-fucker is different from the osananajimi-fucker, who is different from the miko-fucker, who is in turn different from the oujo-fucker. I just don't see why he happens to be different in each case. Haruka is for the most part, the VN protagonist whose qualities change with each player. Quote:
And if you're going to take the approach of having something happening all the time in this kind of drama, you lose the sense of each character's personality, like I mentioned above. It becomes just about plot, and forgets about character-building. A good romance drama should be able to make you empathize with at least one of the characters; Yosuga no Sora, sad to say, fails at this for me. Quote:
So, whatever I review is going to need to be bite-sized, and easy for people to use as a reference for which series they might think of picking up. That means I have to cut chase and focus on my impressions of any title; so, you have a valid point, but it's not one I can do anything about. In any case, if you want a review on our site which is more in line with your opinions, feel free to come show us what you've got. |
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Slow and steady wins the race?
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Kazuha - Haruka sees how dearly she cares for her sister, Akira. Sees an almost maternal kindness within her. He seems to find connection with the idea of caring for a sibling, since he has had to take care of Sora himself. I suppose he can relate to the idea of a worrywart sibling. Akira - She's energetic and lively. Childhood friend. Haruka admires how hard she tries despite the pain she shelters in her heart from others. Nao - Easy sex (OK just kidding ). Almost like his bigger sister, the girl next door. Very kind heart. Extremely accepting, basically an all around good friend. Used to be the girl with the bright smile that lightened up his life. Sora - Haruka is obviously a hard M. Well, I suppose Sora is very attractive to him. She's someone who obviously by being in the same family, knows and realizes the same pain as him. They both fully understand loneliness by virtue of having no parents to depend on and through this is because more intimate. He finds her "attitude" cute as well I suppose. Admittedly, there is definitely room to see more of the girl's personalities, but I don't feel like I was cheated or anything. Some of these girls have had more development than many non omni bus animes I've seen recently. Not that this is an excuse. Perhaps I've lowered my standards... After all, 2010 has been one of the worst years for anime this last decade or so. Quote:
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I feel like I was able to empathize with the characters to a degree. It is hard to do so when everything is so compact. Again, it's why I also dislike the omnibus format. However, for me personally, I saw enough of each of the characters (Save Nao) to understand and like them. I realize why it would be hard for many to do so. Quote:
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2010-12-31, 15:06 | Link #2137 |
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I just felt the need to point out, your biggest gripe with the story was the inconsistency of some of the characters, which is incorrect and has been explained umpteen billion times already. Regardless, you decided to compare it to the only show I've ever seen that had to (and very very poorly) retcon itself 4 times within 24 episodes just to keep the story going.
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2011-01-01, 10:24 | Link #2138 | |
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2011-01-01, 12:07 | Link #2139 |
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While I'm glad Yosuga no Sora is good enough to ignite such arguments and comparisons, I'm not fond of Ascaloth's attitude (your insults of "comprehension" or whatever smart ass lines you throw).
I'd like focus to another point other than a review (which's teetering over being a troll). For example... me whining about how little pics there are for Haru compared to the girls. Please don't ignore the fangirls who like the edible bishie~ For a second I even forgot who is Yahiro. It's a shame we didn't see her at all (initially I thought she might be Akira's true mother ^^) And I definitely won't watch class-rep OVA. >_> I still dislike her... She should pair up with Ryohei.
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2011-01-01, 18:29 | Link #2140 | |
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Aww but my opinion of her improved after that last line of hers in ep 12, showing that she isn't just some hater of incest, but that she merely has deep unrealized dreams of her own. |
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