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Old 2011-02-06, 14:59   Link #29041
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So backstabbing someone Susano is fighting = bad

But when he sneak attacks someone carrying a wounded soldier in a way that makes her slam into pavement at high speeds, that's perfectly alright?
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Old 2011-02-06, 15:21   Link #29042
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I meant to put in a snippet that makes it clear he's working on the mechanical aspects of Nove, but it was slow going because he couldn't find a base appropriate to use them on yet, and I totally forgot to add it. I'll put it in later.
I would suggest you change it to one of the older Numbers instead. There would be reasons why there'd be no point in working on the mechanical aspects without a proper base (such as you might end up redesigning the whole thing once you do get the base) You'd get bogged down in explainations.
The information on when each Number was completed actually exists, I think someone here can tell you which Number Jail might be working on in MC0066.
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Old 2011-02-06, 15:34   Link #29043
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So backstabbing someone Susano is fighting = bad

But when he sneak attacks someone carrying a wounded soldier in a way that makes her slam into pavement at high speeds, that's perfectly alright?
Hey, I never said he wasn't a hypocrite. But in his mind, he used basically non-lethal force (or close) and he was preventing them from ganging up on Tsukuyomi, so he's okay with it. Ammy was trying to kill Vita and, more importantly: He was totally fighting that one! Seriously, what the Hell?!

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I would suggest you change it to one of the older Numbers instead. There would be reasons why there'd be no point in working on the mechanical aspects without a proper base (such as you might end up redesigning the whole thing once you do get the base) You'd get bogged down in explainations.
The information on when each Number was completed actually exists, I think someone here can tell you which Number Jail might be working on in MC0066.
Unfortunately the only Numbers activated in proximity to 0066 were Wendi and Nove in 0069. All the others are either already complete, or won't be activated until 0075 when they're put into service against Riot Force Six.
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Old 2011-02-06, 16:21   Link #29044
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Still, that situation was arranged such that no-one can actually call him out on it. Considering everybody goes on and on about how crazy Ammy is, why should he get away with that? And Nanoha was DONE, dude; a trained warrior like him should have been able to see that, I think.
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Old 2011-02-06, 16:24   Link #29045
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You know, I really hate the way you have to end almost every chapter in a way that makes me want to see what happens next right now.
Don't be fooled! He actually ends every scene like that, so that no matter where he inserts the chapter break that happens!

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Blaaaah, you're right... I meant to put in a snippet that makes it clear he's working on the mechanical aspects of Nove, but it was slow going because he couldn't find a base appropriate to use them on yet, and I totally forgot to add it. I'll put it in later.
Isn't Nove supposed to be Subaru's genetic twin (except for minor palette-swapping tweaks?) so, wouldn't he still have access to the material for her? Or was it established in canon he had to wait for Zest, Quint, and Megane's failed raid to get the necessary samples from Quint to re-start things?
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Old 2011-02-06, 16:27   Link #29046
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Don't be fooled! He actually ends every scene like that, so that no matter where he inserts the chapter break that happens!
You know me so well.

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Isn't Nove supposed to be Subaru's genetic twin (except for minor palette-swapping tweaks?) so, wouldn't he still have access to the material for her? Or was it established in canon he had to wait for Zest, Quint, and Megane's failed raid to get the necessary samples from Quint to re-start things?
I was under the impression that Subaru and Ginga were, while based on Scaglietti's research, actually made by someone different. Is that wrong?
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Old 2011-02-06, 16:36   Link #29047
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I think is implied that they were "made" by other person and that was why Jail wanted them. Itīs being I while though so I donīt remember very well.

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Old 2011-02-06, 16:40   Link #29048
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Longer part than usual.

This replaces the canon incident for Zest and Co.

Shine Parts 1-30

Shine Part 31

Shine Part 32

Shine Part 33

Spoiler for Blood That Flows - Shine Part 34:
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Old 2011-02-06, 16:42   Link #29049
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I'm kind of disappointed Ammy didn't hit him back, honestly. Even if he doesn't like it, they have a duty to fulfill, and punching her for trying to focus on that goal just seems like him being a brat. He's been asking for it for a while, really.
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Old 2011-02-06, 16:44   Link #29050
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I was under the impression that Subaru and Ginga were, while based on Scaglietti's research, actually made by someone different. Is that wrong?
Subaru and Ginga are based off Quint. Someone got her genetic material and created them, but it's unknown whether they were created as babies, or rapidly grown to the age 5 or so when Quint finds them. I'd have to look up exact dates. Some think Quint may have even donated her material since she couldn't have kids, and then "rescued" them later. But yes, this is from someone else's work.

Nove is based off of Quint, too, but from Jail's doing. He extracted genetic material from her, but then presumably left her dead body to be recovered by the TSAB. Which is a bit interesting, considering he took Megane at least; unsure if he actually took Zest, though.
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Old 2011-02-06, 16:52   Link #29051
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Longer part than usual.

This replaces the canon incident for Zest and Co.

Shine Parts 1-30

Shine Part 31

Shine Part 32

Shine Part 33

Spoiler for Blood That Flows - Shine Part 34:
Y'know, that last line pretty much sums up the entire chapter. The fact that they didn't die makes me kind of happy though, it was an unfair end really.
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Old 2011-02-06, 16:54   Link #29052
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I think is implied that they were "made" by other person and that was why Jail wanted them. Itīs being I while though so I donīt remember very well.

Also also nice avatar Moczo~
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Subaru and Ginga are based off Quint. Someone got her genetic material and created them, but it's unknown whether they were created as babies, or rapidly grown to the age 5 or so when Quint finds them. I'd have to look up exact dates. Some think Quint may have even donated her material since she couldn't have kids, and then "rescued" them later. But yes, this is from someone else's work.

Nove is based off of Quint, too, but from Jail's doing. He extracted genetic material from her, but then presumably left her dead body to be recovered by the TSAB. Which is a bit interesting, considering he took Megane at least; unsure if he actually took Zest, though.
Thought so! Thanks for the confirmation, guys.

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I'm kind of disappointed Ammy didn't hit him back, honestly. Even if he doesn't like it, they have a duty to fulfill, and punching her for trying to focus on that goal just seems like him being a brat. He's been asking for it for a while, really.
*shrug* She makes up for it by generally being impossible to live with. And yeah... he's not all that great a person, when you get right down to it. He's got weirdly paradoxical morals and does not take his work seriously enough. Amaterasu is a bit heartless, but she was doing her job. He was taking care not to kill anyone, but he wasn't. And yes, he is a bit of a brat; Ammy's rather tolerant of her baby sibling's eccentricities because she wants to get them into bed because of how long they've been together. She knew this was coming, eventually.
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Old 2011-02-06, 17:25   Link #29053
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Next chapter of Infinity is up! A bit shorter than the norm, but it brings back what you really all read the story for: the kickoff to several straight chapters of exposition! Whoo-hoo!
I'm waiting for the whole exposition actually, not just a kick-off . But it's nice that Jail finally enters the picture; I'm eagerly awaiting for the train-wreck

Wait, where did the blueprint for Jail came from? Was it something I missed or something yet to be revealed?
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Old 2011-02-06, 17:56   Link #29054
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*Checks Calendar* Huh?



I'm waiting for the whole exposition actually, not just a kick-off . But it's nice that Jail finally enters the picture; I'm eagerly awaiting for the train-wreck

Wait, where did the blueprint for Jail came from? Was it something I missed or something yet to be revealed?
Hey, sometimes I'm awesome like that.


I first mentioned the blueprint awhile back, in this chapter. So it didn't come out of nowhere, don't worry.
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Old 2011-02-06, 17:59   Link #29055
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In what section of it, pray tell?
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Subaru and Ginga are based off Quint. Someone got her genetic material and created them, but it's unknown whether they were created as babies, or rapidly grown to the age 5 or so when Quint finds them. I'd have to look up exact dates. Some think Quint may have even donated her material since she couldn't have kids, and then "rescued" them later. But yes, this is from someone else's work.

Nove is based off of Quint, too, but from Jail's doing. He extracted genetic material from her, but then presumably left her dead body to be recovered by the TSAB. Which is a bit interesting, considering he took Megane at least; unsure if he actually took Zest, though.
I think it's more likely that Regius, as the one spearheading the project, saw a member of his close friend's squad whose combat style and special abilities were deemed ideal for the combat cyborgs and so decided to use her as the basis. Wouldn't be difficult for him to get her DNA via records or by ordering a blood test. Jail probably had access to the same material.

Though some one else did make the type 0s, I'm not sure if it's the same case as Project Fate or not, with Jail doing the fundamentals, but another person perfecting it.
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Old 2011-02-06, 18:11   Link #29057
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Hey, sometimes I'm awesome like that.


I first mentioned the blueprint awhile back, in this chapter. So it didn't come out of nowhere, don't worry.
So I guess we won't be seeing another Infinity or Chaos Theory for another six months?

Ah, yes, now I remembered. Chekov's Guns are fine, Asspulls are not
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Old 2011-02-06, 18:13   Link #29058
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In what section of it, pray tell?
Spoiler for Not sure if this needs spoiler tags or not, but what the hey.:


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So I guess we won't be seeing another Infinity or Chaos Theory for another six months?

Ah, yes, now I remembered. Chekov's Guns are fine, Asspulls are not
Naaah, three months, tops.

I try to pull my plot twists firmly from Chekov's Armoury; at least I have made the attempt to subtly foreshadow most of the major plot twists to come, though if I've done my job right, the foreshadowing won't become obvious until after the event in question has already happened.
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Old 2011-02-06, 18:15   Link #29059
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I think it's more likely that Regius, as the one spearheading the project, saw a member of his close friend's squad whose combat style and special abilities were deemed ideal for the combat cyborgs and so decided to use her as the basis. Wouldn't be difficult for him to get her DNA via records or by ordering a blood test. Jail probably had access to the same material.
While Jail might have had it from Regius, if you use this line of reasoning, Jail (or whatever researcher made Subaru and Ginga) had Megane and Zest's as well. Why not do combat cyborgs out of them? Zest was pretty bad ass even while he was half-dying.

The only difference I can see is that Quint couldn't have kids. Thus, impetus to have children.

But really, either theory would work.
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Old 2011-02-06, 18:27   Link #29060
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Oh right. Not sure what just the power source will do without being connected to the Master Gate itself. Seems like the sort of thing that might blow up in their face, and prevent them from affecting actual canon. >_>
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