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neshru · 2012-11-01, 12:57

I think the only disgraceful thing here is the fact that some people still don't get the point of fillers. Get a clue people, seriously.

miroku2192 · 2012-11-01, 13:08

I'm sorry so when will the start of these 6 episodes begin? Trailer makes it look pretty fun, and I might give it a shot.

sayde · 2012-11-01, 13:17

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Originally Posted by ookamigirl

It's just disgraceful and rude towards the fans. I'm guessing lots of fans gave up on it already.

Filler's an unavoidable necessity for any long-running anime directly based off an ongoing manga. Besides, if almost 2 years and over 80 consecutive episodes composed of some of the worst filler ever couldn't make the ratings low enough to get this anime pulled, I doubt any filler arc ever will (for this franchise).

neshru · 2012-11-01, 13:46

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Originally Posted by miroku2192

I'm sorry so when will the start of these 6 episodes begin? Trailer makes it look pretty fun, and I might give it a shot.

I think the first one will air on on November 22, with the arc ending with the end of the year.

Ushio the Omega · 2012-11-01, 15:25

What a boring filler 5 enemy characters introduced who then do NOTHING!

Dengar · 2012-11-01, 16:10

It's why I just skip over the filler without complaining about it. Just treat it like a hiatus or something.

Maxtro · 2012-11-01, 17:02

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Originally Posted by sayde

Filler's an unavoidable necessity for any long-running anime directly based off an ongoing manga. Besides, if almost 2 years and over 80 consecutive episodes composed of some of the worst filler ever couldn't make the ratings low enough to get this anime pulled, I doubt any filler arc ever will (for this franchise).

Actually it's not really necessary at all but just how things have worked out Japanese TV culture.

If the scheduling was done the western way, Naruto would have 4-5 months of new episodes and simply not air for the rest of the year.

Instead of taking a break from the air, these long running shows are expected to air every week. Obviously, that drastically lowers the quality of the show.

sayde · 2012-11-01, 17:57

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Originally Posted by Maxtro

If the scheduling was done the western way, Naruto would have 4-5 months of new episodes and simply not air for the rest of the year.

Quite true. And to a certain degree, that's seems to happen to plenty of manga-based anime in Japan. That's to say, a season will air, and then months (or even years) come to pass before the next season is aired.

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Originally Posted by Maxtro

Instead of taking a break from the air, these long running shows are expected to air every week. Obviously, that drastically lowers the quality of the show.

Once again, I agree. But be that as it may, the situation remains what it is--which brings me back to my original point. Since that's just the way "Japanese TV culture" (as you put it) does things, fillers will continue to remain an unavoidable necessity for as long as these types of franchises are contracted to air almost every week of the year.

Maxtro · 2012-11-01, 18:36

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Originally Posted by sayde

Quite true. And to a certain degree, that's seems to happen to plenty of manga-based anime in Japan. That's to say, a season will air, and then months (or even years) come to pass before the next season is aired.

Once again, I agree. But be that as it may, the situation remains what it is--which brings me back to my original point. Since that's just the way "Japanese TV culture" (as you put it) does things, fillers will continue to remain an unavoidable necessity for as long as these types of franchises are contracted to air almost every week of the year.

Which does make me wonder how it's decided which shows get broken up into seasons and which don't. So the question is why did Shakugan no Shana get three separate seasons and shows like Naruto and Bleach are supposed to run forever.

Of course Bleach is no longer with us, and I think not being broken up into seasons turned many people off of the show.

sayde · 2012-11-01, 20:03

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Originally Posted by Maxtro

Which does make me wonder how it's decided which shows get broken up into seasons and which don't. So the question is why did Shakugan no Shana get three separate seasons and shows like Naruto and Bleach are supposed to run forever.

Good question. Even though I've seen every season of it, I'm not too familiar with the manga adaption of shukugan no shana, so if I had to take a wild shot in the dark, I'd say it might have to do with the frequency at which new chapters of the manga are released. Naruto, Bleach, One Piece, & Fairy Tail, are examples of franchises I know are released almost every week. But I'm not sure the same can be said of the others. Case in point, were chapters of Shana released weekly prior to the end of the manga? Or did the manga take breaks every so often?

Speaking of Bleach, (and this is just my opinion), but I think the canon content just wasn't interesting enough to keep its viewers. Because most of the filler content at its very worst still wasn't as bad as Naruto at its worst. There were even moments when the filler would be more interesting then the current events in manga at the time. Even the final canon episodes to an arc that took years to build up to pulled in abysmal ratings. So while I'm sad to see it go, I wasn't at all surprised.

Spectacular_Insanity · 2012-11-01, 20:27

All these people bitching about fillers. I pity you guys, I really do.

Well guess what? I ENJOYED these last two filler episodes (286 and 287). Hear that? ENJOYED. It's nice to see additional character development apart from the restrictive nature of what Kishimoto deigns to show us in the manga. I like seeing side characters shine in the limelight, even if only for a few brief episodes. And this stuff is actually relevant to the current arc's relationships between characters, and fleshes out their personalities and backstories to show that they aren't just recycled stereotypes but characters in their own right.

Dear god you people crying about fillers either need to stop watching the show or just shut up and enjoy it without worrying about whether or not every episode is a carbon-copy of its manga chapter counterparts.

Kizoku Keenan · 2012-11-08, 08:11

Guy & kakashi team up episodes are always great, loved this episode, love guy sensei. shame the fight wasn't more action packed though but I guess it had to be more tame to make more time for guy and kakashi's reminiscing friendship = more chakra stuff.

ookamigirl · 2012-11-08, 08:23

It was nice to see Kakashi again.
He came in contact with some pretty scary opponents.
Jinpachi and Kushimaru vs Guy and Kakashi!
Really nice action scenes.
Those two had serious problems dealing with the enemy.
Flashbacks from the past were a nice filler.

Maxtro · 2012-11-08, 15:36

Interesting back story. This episode.

I didn't know that Gai replaced Obito.

We also get to see when Kakashi cuts lightning though he didn't use Raikiri or did he?

The fight seen could have been better but it was still a good episode.

One thing really odd, is that woman looks whole lot like Rin, Kakashi's old teammate who isn't around for reasons we don't know yet. She's even named Ran

Justice Knight · 2012-11-14, 20:55

has the anime resume to manga storyline yet? if not,how long more??

neshru · 2012-11-14, 22:07

It's all filler up until the end of the year. Canon may resume with the start of the new year, but we don't know just yet.
The mini filler arc that starts next week could be worth checking out though, it really looks like something special.

azenable · 2012-11-15, 09:17

i tot omoi is dead?

Kizoku Keenan · 2012-11-15, 13:00

filler after this week? crap!

Loved this weeks episode, liked Omoi getting the hidden mist blades at the end.

I want a lollipop.

ookamigirl · 2012-11-15, 13:37

What is happening to Naruto?
This constant torture with fillers and shitty episodes is just too much.
I bet it's losing fans right this moment.
The other half is just delusional and keeps on hoping it'll get better.
Honestly, I don't know why I'm still watching this...
Kakashi and Guy continue their cooperation + some Omoi and Narui action.
Just watching the sidelines with some meaningless fights.
Disappointed.

Ushio the Omega · 2012-11-15, 16:04

I hate filler that breaks manga canon

as with this episode 5 of the seven swordsman are sealed and yet when Fuguki Suikazan is sealed in the manga there are still supposed to be 3 left.

But at least this is above average filler and better than how the other swordsmen were sealed in there filler episodes.

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miroku2192 Let's Puppystyle! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Best Place In The WORLD Age: 32	I'm sorry so when will the start of these 6 episodes begin? Trailer makes it look pretty fun, and I might give it a shot. __________________

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Spectacular_Insanity Ha ha ha ha ha... Graphic Designer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Right behind you. Age: 35	All these people bitching about fillers. I pity you guys, I really do. Well guess what? I ENJOYED these last two filler episodes (286 and 287). Hear that? ENJOYED. It's nice to see additional character development apart from the restrictive nature of what Kishimoto deigns to show us in the manga. I like seeing side characters shine in the limelight, even if only for a few brief episodes. And this stuff is actually relevant to the current arc's relationships between characters, and fleshes out their personalities and backstories to show that they aren't just recycled stereotypes but characters in their own right. Dear god you people crying about fillers either need to stop watching the show or just shut up and enjoy it without worrying about whether or not every episode is a carbon-copy of its manga chapter counterparts. __________________

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Kizoku Keenan ばか =) Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Belfast, Northern Ireland Age: 38	Guy & kakashi team up episodes are always great, loved this episode, love guy sensei. shame the fight wasn't more action packed though but I guess it had to be more tame to make more time for guy and kakashi's reminiscing friendship = more chakra stuff. __________________

2012-11-08, 08:23	Link #373
ookamigirl Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	It was nice to see Kakashi again. He came in contact with some pretty scary opponents. Jinpachi and Kushimaru vs Guy and Kakashi! Really nice action scenes. Those two had serious problems dealing with the enemy. Flashbacks from the past were a nice filler. __________________ My Blog --> ookami

2012-11-14, 20:55	Link #375
Justice Knight Haro Pwned U!!!! Join Date: Dec 2005	has the anime resume to manga storyline yet? if not,how long more?? __________________

2012-11-01, 12:57	Link #361
neshru Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008	I think the only disgraceful thing here is the fact that some people still don't get the point of fillers. Get a clue people, seriously.

2012-11-01, 15:25	Link #365
Ushio the Omega Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010	What a boring filler 5 enemy characters introduced who then do NOTHING!

2012-11-01, 16:10	Link #366
Dengar Kamen Rider Muppeteer Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Unknown Age: 39	It's why I just skip over the filler without complaining about it. Just treat it like a hiatus or something.

2012-11-08, 15:36	Link #374
Maxtro Super Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: California	Interesting back story. This episode. I didn't know that Gai replaced Obito. We also get to see when Kakashi cuts lightning though he didn't use Raikiri or did he? The fight seen could have been better but it was still a good episode. One thing really odd, is that woman looks whole lot like Rin, Kakashi's old teammate who isn't around for reasons we don't know yet. She's even named Ran

2012-11-14, 22:07	Link #376
neshru Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008	It's all filler up until the end of the year. Canon may resume with the start of the new year, but we don't know just yet. The mini filler arc that starts next week could be worth checking out though, it really looks like something special.

2012-11-15, 09:17	Link #377
azenable President of TecoT Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Singapore	i tot omoi is dead?

2012-11-15, 13:00	Link #378
Kizoku Keenan ばか =) Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Belfast, Northern Ireland Age: 38	filler after this week? crap! Loved this weeks episode, liked Omoi getting the hidden mist blades at the end. I want a lollipop. __________________

2012-11-15, 13:37	Link #379
ookamigirl Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	What is happening to Naruto? This constant torture with fillers and shitty episodes is just too much. I bet it's losing fans right this moment. The other half is just delusional and keeps on hoping it'll get better. Honestly, I don't know why I'm still watching this... Kakashi and Guy continue their cooperation + some Omoi and Narui action. Just watching the sidelines with some meaningless fights. Disappointed. __________________ My Blog --> ookami

2012-11-15, 16:04	Link #380
Ushio the Omega Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010	I hate filler that breaks manga canon as with this episode 5 of the seven swordsman are sealed and yet when Fuguki Suikazan is sealed in the manga there are still supposed to be 3 left. But at least this is above average filler and better than how the other swordsmen were sealed in there filler episodes.