AnimeSuki Forums

Register Forum Rules FAQ Members List Social Groups Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   AnimeSuki Forum > Anime Discussion > Older Series > Retired > Retired M-Z > Nanoha/Vivid Franchise

Notices

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old 2012-07-08, 20:24   Link #4101
Skane
Anime Snark
 
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Singapore
Age: 41
Alas... we will never get to see him bask in glory because of his plug. Hell will probably freeze over first before we get to see an over-the-top badass scene from him.

Natch.
__________________
Skane is offline  
Old 2012-07-08, 20:59   Link #4102
Sunder the Gold
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skane View Post
Alas... we will never get to see him bask in glory because of his plug. Hell will probably freeze over first before we get to see an over-the-top badass scene from him.

Natch.
Well, there's always fanfiction.

Including plot devices that basically force the TSAB to send him on a mission that Nanoha is actually disqualified for: http://forums.animesuki.com/showthre...30#post4245330
Sunder the Gold is offline  
Old 2012-07-12, 19:13   Link #4103
Tiresias
Labda Prakarsa Nirwikara
 
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Pekanbaru (UTC+07:00)
Age: 37
How many named Bureau colonels/navy captains or above do we know of, and what are their names?
__________________
Tiresias is offline  
Old 2012-07-12, 21:11   Link #4104
Kaijo
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow, in a house dropped on an ugly, old woman.
Send a message via AIM to Kaijo Send a message via MSN to Kaijo
Lindy
Leti
Chrono
Graham
Regius
Leone
Largo
Midget
And Hayate is a Lt. Col. now
Kaijo is offline  
Old 2012-07-13, 01:01   Link #4105
Koveras Alvane
Mastermind Rational
*Author
 
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Karlsruhe, Germany
Age: 37
Send a message via ICQ to Koveras Alvane Send a message via MSN to Koveras Alvane
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaijo View Post
Lindy
Leti
Chrono
Graham
Regius
Leone
Largo
Midget
And Hayate is a Lt. Col. now
Plus Carim, who's technically Major General.
__________________
Koveras Alvane is offline  
Old 2012-07-16, 20:39   Link #4106
Lhklan
The Unpronounceable
 
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Clock Tower
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunder the Gold View Post
Well, there's always fanfiction.

Including plot devices that basically force the TSAB to send him on a mission that Nanoha is actually disqualified for: http://forums.animesuki.com/showthre...30#post4245330

I Stand Alone, Blood That Flows along with Swords and Shields come to mind.
In TvTropes WMG page, there's a mention of Yuuno not going out in the field because his spells can be too lethal sometime.
Lhklan is offline  
Old 2012-07-16, 21:28   Link #4107
bhl88
Otaku Apprentice
 
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: The Unseen Horizon
Send a message via MSN to bhl88 Send a message via Yahoo to bhl88
lol his spells have lethal potential.... he's just a rock wall (tons of defense)
__________________
OS-tan Collections (temporary): https://discord.gg/Hv2rBs3
bhl88 is offline  
Old 2012-07-16, 21:34   Link #4108
Skane
Anime Snark
 
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Singapore
Age: 41
Arrow

Quote:
Originally Posted by bhl88 View Post
lol his spells have lethal potential.... he's just a rock wall (tons of defense)
That's what the bard said to Raquel in Scrapped Princess. He quickly learnt to eat his words. You have to think outside the box and see how these spells can be used offensively. In Yuuno's case, extremely so.

"Now you're thinking with Portals!"

Cheers.
__________________
Skane is offline  
Old 2012-07-17, 01:30   Link #4109
bhl88
Otaku Apprentice
 
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: The Unseen Horizon
Send a message via MSN to bhl88 Send a message via Yahoo to bhl88
Aka teleport said idiot who thinks he's weak to space
__________________
OS-tan Collections (temporary): https://discord.gg/Hv2rBs3
bhl88 is offline  
Old 2012-07-18, 02:47   Link #4110
Lhklan
The Unpronounceable
 
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Clock Tower
Nah, too costly. Just teleport his heart into your palm. See if he can live afterward.
Or just put up a shield right in front of the guy when he's flying.
Lhklan is offline  
Old 2012-07-21, 03:55   Link #4111
Kallen4life
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
guys - what exactly is the mechanics behind Arc-En-Ciel ?

> space-time destruction ?
> dimension destruction ?
> conventional explosion ?
> there is something about an annihilation reaction .. ? what's that mean ?
__________________
When we hunt, we kill
No one is safe
Nothing is sacred
We are Blackwatch
We are the last line of defense
We will burn our own to hold the red line, it is the last line to ever hold
Kallen4life is offline  
Old 2012-07-21, 04:25   Link #4112
bhl88
Otaku Apprentice
 
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: The Unseen Horizon
Send a message via MSN to bhl88 Send a message via Yahoo to bhl88
Distorting the time-space within an area to destroy a target.
__________________
OS-tan Collections (temporary): https://discord.gg/Hv2rBs3
bhl88 is offline  
Old 2012-07-21, 06:57   Link #4113
Koveras Alvane
Mastermind Rational
*Author
 
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Karlsruhe, Germany
Age: 37
Send a message via ICQ to Koveras Alvane Send a message via MSN to Koveras Alvane
In other words, Arc-en-ciel messes with the physical laws in the target area, making matter collapse onto itself.
__________________
Koveras Alvane is offline  
Old 2012-07-21, 09:50   Link #4114
Justin_Brett
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Canada, Sault Ste. Marie
So do devices have any named material that they're made of, or is it just some advanced metal or something?
Justin_Brett is offline  
Old 2012-07-21, 10:15   Link #4115
Akiyoshi
The Flame Crussader
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
It's a mistery xD

Some people assume they are made of real material (me among them) others theorize they're entirely made of solidified magic. But both theories are equally unconfirmed by canon so i don't know really xDU
__________________
May 29 2010-2019

...9 years ago, the day after never would be the same

~The ASFB~
Akiyoshi is offline  
Old 2012-07-21, 10:16   Link #4116
bhl88
Otaku Apprentice
 
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: The Unseen Horizon
Send a message via MSN to bhl88 Send a message via Yahoo to bhl88
Nanohanium xD
__________________
OS-tan Collections (temporary): https://discord.gg/Hv2rBs3
bhl88 is offline  
Old 2012-07-21, 10:41   Link #4117
Koveras Alvane
Mastermind Rational
*Author
 
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Karlsruhe, Germany
Age: 37
Send a message via ICQ to Koveras Alvane Send a message via MSN to Koveras Alvane
Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin_Brett View Post
So do devices have any named material that they're made of, or is it just some advanced metal or something?
Pretty sure that their physical forms is just solidified mana. Magic apparently is pretty good at mass manipulation (remember how Yuuno turned into a forty times lighter ferret version of himself). It is possible that some parts of the Device (such as Raising Heart's red jewel) are made of non-magical materials but all the rest is just solid mana. It can be further theorized that the standby forms are the bare hardware minimum that a Device can run on, while its remaining shapes it creates on the fly as needed.
__________________
Koveras Alvane is offline  
Old 2012-07-21, 11:22   Link #4118
Akiyoshi
The Flame Crussader
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Yet devices still need maintenance and can't alter mass at will as freely as you mention it. They just switch between stablished forms adapted trough engineery (unlike, say, Sakura's Magical Wand who adapt new unprecedented forms by the power of her growing will and magic).

Armed devices are even more evident in this aspect as those seem to be made of sturdier stuff than Intelligent ones (at least Generation 1 ones) and be more mechanical in nature, cartridges are probably made of real materials because they are solid shell roudns encased in boxes and more likely without a mana support before being filled it by Shamal/Shari/Mariel.

As we lack any confirmation i also have another theory as i credit the Device form-switch to a function more similar (similar, not equal) to the capsules made by Capsule Corp. in Dragon Ball which are capable of encasing all sorts of big physical stuff inside hammerspace.

Devices do have some mass-alteration trough macig, tough. As we've seen with Bardiche's Zamber mode, Raising Heart Excellion, the way Laevatein can alter the lenght of it's Schlagenform and Graf Eisen size-changing capabilities. Unless Signum and Vita are consumate liars when they say stuff like "tasting the steel of Laevatein" or "The iron count, Garf Eisen" i think it's pretty safe to assume their weapons are made of real metal. Which still makes sense in Laevatein's demise at the hands of Cypha as the latter's viralizing power is precizely to be able to weaken solid constructs, specially the ones made of metal xD
__________________
May 29 2010-2019

...9 years ago, the day after never would be the same

~The ASFB~
Akiyoshi is offline  
Old 2012-07-21, 11:42   Link #4119
Kaijo
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow, in a house dropped on an ugly, old woman.
Send a message via AIM to Kaijo Send a message via MSN to Kaijo
Devices do have parts, though. RH and Bardiche required a whole system of parts to be installed, and Mach Calibur requested an upgrade that would have added much more mass to the device. Also remember that stuff can be stored in subspace (or elsewhere), like Verossa who summoned a cake. Mass manipulation is also very much a possibility; see Vita's huge hammer for a great example.

So, based on that, I go on the assumption that all those parts are stored inside the device, and just use magic to enlarge them. Or call out any extra needed parts from storage in subspace.
Kaijo is offline  
Old 2012-07-21, 11:50   Link #4120
Rising Dragon
Goat Herder
*Author
 
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Age: 36
Never mind how the same part can have wildly different forms--Raising Heart and Bardiche both had the exact same Cartridge System part installed, yet Raising Heart's takes the form of an automatic-type reloader, and Bardiche's takes the form of a revolver-type reloader.
__________________
Rising Dragon is offline  
Closed Thread

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:09.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
We use Silk.