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ReaperxKingx · 2012-06-07, 10:29

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Originally Posted by Riki

i've read the raw and

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Many agreed on this, though many like it this way. Not many stories have the enemy falling love with her enemy. Though this could be tragic as Romeo and Juliet.

Soji · 2012-06-07, 10:36

Reaper @ They cant be Romeo and juliet because tatsumi don't like her that way . at lest until now. And yes....

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ReaperxKingx · 2012-06-07, 10:39

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Originally Posted by Soji

Reaper @ They cant be Romeo and juliet because tatsumi don't like her that way . at lest until now. And yes....

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What really interest me is what happened between Kurome and Akame. Akame says she love her sister, yet she is the one she wants to kill the most. Must have happened when Akame decided to join Nightraid and this is the fallout of it.

Kleeyook · 2012-06-07, 10:42

I don't mind Esdese slaughtered enemies. But slaughtering opponents who already surrendered and helpless, as well as torturing them and crushed their pride is just inhuman. I'm fine with her killing all the soldiers though.

Kurome doesn't only enjoy slaughtering people. She also played with the dismembered corpse like a psycho...

Wave is normal imo. The wing guy doesn't seem to be too sick either.

Seiryuu is scary as hell. She'll slaughter all her enemies in the name of justice even if they surrendered...

The doctor is very sick as well. He doesn't seem to care about people lives, be it friends or foes.

Soji · 2012-06-07, 10:47

Reaper @ Remember that I said in this topic

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So yeah it's probaly something like you just say.
Kleeyook@ Exactly . This my point as well and one of the bigger reason that make me being again the titanic pairing .

ReaperxKingx · 2012-06-07, 10:51

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Originally Posted by Kleeyook

I don't mind Esdese slaughtered enemies. But slaughtering opponents who already surrendered and helpless, as well as torturing them and crushed their pride is just inhuman. I'm fine with her killing all the soldiers though.

Kurome doesn't only enjoy slaughtering people. She also played with the dismembered corpse like a psycho...

Wave is normal imo. The wing guy doesn't seem to be too sick either.

Seiryuu is scary as hell. She'll slaughter all her enemies in the name of justice even if they surrendered...

The doctor is very sick as well. He doesn't seem to care about people lives, be it friends or foes.

I won't deny the things you mentioned, but remember to put the spoiler tag on them for future events.

Spoiler for Spoiler and explanation:

Soji · 2012-06-07, 10:54

Reaper about Esdes...

Spoiler for Esdes:

NeutralZero · 2012-06-07, 20:50

Not certain if every one forgave them(Jap) already...
Other country/ies or those who survive ww2 and is/are still alive right now might still not forgave them... along with those bitter-extension pips...
Well there are still those who says they deserve it (Nuke incident in WW2 and the earthquake back in 2011)...
In case of Esdes... who knows... maybe just (not) maybe she became a karma houdini herself... kinda like Daryl and the Arisa (That B****) of GC or that SOB Taisuke or who whatever his name is of School Days series that should have been killed in every route possible...
Most of them (Empire and Resistance army) really no matter what justification one had do deserve to live (those with redeeming qualities as of present or those who would show some in the near future) aside from pet girl since we hated her to the core...
The perfect atonement of one's sins especially if they killed or made one suffer... (rapist and drug related matter doesn't count in our book) is to repent for it for the rest of their lives... kinda like what the author of Gundam V did to Katejina Loos... or what Kenshin or Samurai X had/has done so far... or in real life Saul who became Paul of the bible...

ReaperxKingx · 2012-06-07, 20:55

In a way, you make sense. Some people who done crimes, sometimes change for the better and there are those which make them worse. So far, every enemy we seen so far have a monster face literally a MONSTER FACE with fangs and triangle eyes and all. Esdes is somewhat different, haven't seen the raws yet, but so far she hasn't displayed that type of face. Thank goodness she hasn't, maybe that is a type of foreshadowing that she will change sides.

NeutralZero · 2012-06-07, 21:09

Seen chapter 24/25? For us that's a monster face... in a different level...
Well as long as they're still alive they (she and some of them) still have a chance... to be better (her) or worse (pet girl) at that...
Her behavior of liking to inflict pain is natural for a sadist... though her's borders from too much to the extreme... we're a partial one so its understandable for us... the very least...
So far her battle freak behavior and general behavior at that for us do resemble Vali with a mixture or Shihio (no redeeming qualities)/Sojiro/Kojiro... heck the kid right hand of Shishio in Samurai X (redeeming qualities).
Her survival for us is still 40/60...

ReaperxKingx · 2012-06-07, 21:14

Ugh, why you have to tell me that NeutralZero. Now I am imagining that type of face on your avatar. Can you share the link of the raw or post the image in a spoiler tag? Can't be that bad right? Hope not. I read of people or organizations who done crimes and repent like the Catholic Church.

NeutralZero · 2012-06-07, 21:44

Well that scene happened in the same chapter our avatar came from...
That scene came before the pic/avatar we're using right now...
We're a a Catholic our-self though we prefer to be called christian and our sister called us an atheist and we're very certain to some extent that extremist do still exist within and for them that kind of action is justified... one of the reason we hate 'the end justify the means'
A partial example would be our mother... not the extreme kind though...
THink this is the link...

Spoiler for link?:

It's not similar to pet girl in 17 but the degree is a lot higher... the very least for us...
That one or the one in 26...

ReaperxKingx · 2012-06-07, 21:51

I didn't mean any harm when I mention the Catholic Church. If I did, I apologize when I spoke of the crimes that they committed I was talking about the Inquisitions. About that link, that sort of monster face isn't really a monster. More like a killer intent face Tatsumi had one as well on some occasions, didn't see the teeth (Fangs) so in my opinion didn't count. *Chills* that is the same face when I met my girlfriend's mother, I still get it every time we visit.

Spoiler for Esdes's Teigu:

NeutralZero · 2012-06-07, 22:29

Nah... we're not offended...
It's one of the few topics that we do laugh as... sarcastically though...
We're one of the Catholics that admit we made a grave mistake in the past... not only to those we BBQed but also to the Muslims for the past centuries... especially in our country who is at feud with the muslims or muslim rebels...
Those blinded by their religion as if they can't err is/are they type we like to pissed the most...
Can't blame Gandhi for his comment to liking Christ but not us Christian... and can't even blame the others for viewing us as judgmental, hypocritical, etc etc...
In case to the pic... guess the flying intestine and bodies made us think like that... we did mention in a different level...
Well different views means different perspective...
In any case is that really her teigu?
Well since the very least for us they still didn't clarify that issue, its possible...
We also did ask that before...

ReaperxKingx · 2012-06-07, 22:38

It seems like some Teigu has a safe mode (inactivated mode) and weapon mode. Tatsumi's Teigu is the form of a short sword, but upon unleashing it it is a Full Body Armor. Esdes, has a crest or Tattoo on her chest which maybe the safe mode. When activated it is a Giant Saber or Épée. What I meant to say about Esdes face, I meant do we see a face like this?

Spoiler for Evil face:

So far we haven't so I am glad on that part. Thanks for the link NeutralZero, they have all 26 chapters. Ugh if anyone can read Japanese, please explain this as well the next page

Spoiler for May harm people's feelings a bit:

Please do not click if you don't have a strong mind or something like that, hope to god I don't get hateful comments....

NeutralZero · 2012-06-08, 00:26

Think the language is in Chinese though...
that links 2 weeks late in terms of current release...
Think their that guys family...
One of the reason we're doubtful to have him die...

Iron Maw · 2012-06-08, 03:04

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Originally Posted by ReaperxKingx

It seems like some Teigu has a safe mode (inactivated mode) and weapon mode. Tatsumi's Teigu is the form of a short sword, but upon unleashing it it is a Full Body Armor. Esdes, has a crest or Tattoo on her chest which maybe the safe mode. When activated it is a Giant Saber or Épée.

I remember Esdese using her Ice Magic without the Épée anywhere near her. She's been shown with both the tattoo and the sword on her at the same time, so I highly doubt there any such modes. I think there's a better chance with the tattoo having some connection to her Teigu.

Soji · 2012-06-08, 03:16

Iron Maw@ Now that you remind me. Tatsumi Incursio Key is the same,i don't think this is spoiler so i just say this.One ch ,in the raw I think i saw Tatsumi in Incursio Armor+ Incursio key even if he don't really use it(I think ...i had to see that part better).

Iron Maw · 2012-06-08, 04:00

Oh? That's pretty interesting then. I'm still not sure it would be the same for Esdese though.

Soji · 2012-06-08, 04:06

Iron Maw@I'm not totaly sure because was only one panel ....if I recall right this happen in ch 20. You see Tatsumi in Incursio mode with a sword like thing in his hand and that sword seem to be Incursio Key color and form.
Though

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2012-06-07, 10:36	Link #362
Soji Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Europe	Reaper @ They cant be Romeo and juliet because tatsumi don't like her that way . at lest until now. And yes.... Spoiler for spoiler: Her death flag rise more and more. Though i still think she do deserve death for all the thing she do. And before you ask the way Kurome enjoy kill from the little we know ...she deserve death as well. Though...in the end seem that all of them good and bad guy have this kind of fate that may or may not happen.

2012-06-07, 10:54	Link #367
Soji Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Europe	Reaper about Esdes... Spoiler for Esdes: the point is there is dont reason for her to do that after the people surrend to her and she had totally victory. That was only for her enjoyment. Sorry but I cant excuse her for this. Her torture have zero meaning but her fun(like I said).

2012-06-07, 21:09	Link #370
NeutralZero Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Earth	Seen chapter 24/25? For us that's a monster face... in a different level... Well as long as they're still alive they (she and some of them) still have a chance... to be better (her) or worse (pet girl) at that... Her behavior of liking to inflict pain is natural for a sadist... though her's borders from too much to the extreme... we're a partial one so its understandable for us... the very least... So far her battle freak behavior and general behavior at that for us do resemble Vali with a mixture or Shihio (no redeeming qualities)/Sojiro/Kojiro... heck the kid right hand of Shishio in Samurai X (redeeming qualities). Her survival for us is still 40/60... Last edited by NeutralZero; 2012-06-07 at 21:10. Reason: edit...

2012-06-07, 21:44	Link #372
NeutralZero Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Earth	Well that scene happened in the same chapter our avatar came from... That scene came before the pic/avatar we're using right now... We're a a Catholic our-self though we prefer to be called christian and our sister called us an atheist and we're very certain to some extent that extremist do still exist within and for them that kind of action is justified... one of the reason we hate 'the end justify the means' A partial example would be our mother... not the extreme kind though... THink this is the link... Spoiler for link?: http://www.178.com/mh/zhanchihongzhitong/17815-33.shtml It's not similar to pet girl in 17 but the degree is a lot higher... the very least for us... That one or the one in 26... Last edited by NeutralZero; 2012-06-07 at 21:50. Reason: add on...

2012-06-07, 21:51	Link #373
ReaperxKingx Emperor of the Expected Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Florida	I didn't mean any harm when I mention the Catholic Church. If I did, I apologize when I spoke of the crimes that they committed I was talking about the Inquisitions. About that link, that sort of monster face isn't really a monster. More like a killer intent face Tatsumi had one as well on some occasions, didn't see the teeth (Fangs) so in my opinion didn't count. Chills that is the same face when I met my girlfriend's mother, I still get it every time we visit. Spoiler for Esdes's Teigu: Esdes's Teigu is a oversize Saber or a Épée. Usually weapons used in fencing, (Sword dueling sport).

2012-06-07, 10:42	Link #364
Kleeyook Yandere maniax Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Somewhere close to Valhalla Age: 34	I don't mind Esdese slaughtered enemies. But slaughtering opponents who already surrendered and helpless, as well as torturing them and crushed their pride is just inhuman. I'm fine with her killing all the soldiers though. Kurome doesn't only enjoy slaughtering people. She also played with the dismembered corpse like a psycho... Wave is normal imo. The wing guy doesn't seem to be too sick either. Seiryuu is scary as hell. She'll slaughter all her enemies in the name of justice even if they surrendered... The doctor is very sick as well. He doesn't seem to care about people lives, be it friends or foes.

2012-06-07, 20:50	Link #368
NeutralZero Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Earth	Not certain if every one forgave them(Jap) already... Other country/ies or those who survive ww2 and is/are still alive right now might still not forgave them... along with those bitter-extension pips... Well there are still those who says they deserve it (Nuke incident in WW2 and the earthquake back in 2011)... In case of Esdes... who knows... maybe just (not) maybe she became a karma houdini herself... kinda like Daryl and the Arisa (That B****) of GC or that SOB Taisuke or who whatever his name is of School Days series that should have been killed in every route possible... Most of them (Empire and Resistance army) really no matter what justification one had do deserve to live (those with redeeming qualities as of present or those who would show some in the near future) aside from pet girl since we hated her to the core... The perfect atonement of one's sins especially if they killed or made one suffer... (rapist and drug related matter doesn't count in our book) is to repent for it for the rest of their lives... kinda like what the author of Gundam V did to Katejina Loos... or what Kenshin or Samurai X had/has done so far... or in real life Saul who became Paul of the bible...

2012-06-07, 20:55	Link #369
ReaperxKingx Emperor of the Expected Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Florida	In a way, you make sense. Some people who done crimes, sometimes change for the better and there are those which make them worse. So far, every enemy we seen so far have a monster face literally a MONSTER FACE with fangs and triangle eyes and all. Esdes is somewhat different, haven't seen the raws yet, but so far she hasn't displayed that type of face. Thank goodness she hasn't, maybe that is a type of foreshadowing that she will change sides.

2012-06-07, 21:14	Link #371
ReaperxKingx Emperor of the Expected Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Florida	Ugh, why you have to tell me that NeutralZero. Now I am imagining that type of face on your avatar. Can you share the link of the raw or post the image in a spoiler tag? Can't be that bad right? Hope not. I read of people or organizations who done crimes and repent like the Catholic Church.

2012-06-07, 22:29	Link #374
NeutralZero Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Earth	Nah... we're not offended... It's one of the few topics that we do laugh as... sarcastically though... We're one of the Catholics that admit we made a grave mistake in the past... not only to those we BBQed but also to the Muslims for the past centuries... especially in our country who is at feud with the muslims or muslim rebels... Those blinded by their religion as if they can't err is/are they type we like to pissed the most... Can't blame Gandhi for his comment to liking Christ but not us Christian... and can't even blame the others for viewing us as judgmental, hypocritical, etc etc... In case to the pic... guess the flying intestine and bodies made us think like that... we did mention in a different level... Well different views means different perspective... In any case is that really her teigu? Well since the very least for us they still didn't clarify that issue, its possible... We also did ask that before...

2012-06-07, 22:38	Link #375
ReaperxKingx Emperor of the Expected Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Florida	It seems like some Teigu has a safe mode (inactivated mode) and weapon mode. Tatsumi's Teigu is the form of a short sword, but upon unleashing it it is a Full Body Armor. Esdes, has a crest or Tattoo on her chest which maybe the safe mode. When activated it is a Giant Saber or Épée. What I meant to say about Esdes face, I meant do we see a face like this? Spoiler for Evil face: http://www.178.com/mh/zhanchihongzhitong/15485-24.shtml So far we haven't so I am glad on that part. Thanks for the link NeutralZero, they have all 26 chapters. Ugh if anyone can read Japanese, please explain this as well the next page Spoiler for May harm people's feelings a bit: http://www.178.com/mh/zhanchihongzhitong/17589-21.shtml Please do not click if you don't have a strong mind or something like that, hope to god I don't get hateful comments.... Last edited by ReaperxKingx; 2012-06-08 at 00:00.

2012-06-08, 00:26	Link #376
NeutralZero Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Earth	Think the language is in Chinese though... that links 2 weeks late in terms of current release... Think their that guys family... One of the reason we're doubtful to have him die...

2012-06-08, 03:16	Link #378
Soji Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Europe	Iron Maw@ Now that you remind me. Tatsumi Incursio Key is the same,i don't think this is spoiler so i just say this.One ch ,in the raw I think i saw Tatsumi in Incursio Armor+ Incursio key even if he don't really use it(I think ...i had to see that part better).

2012-06-08, 04:00	Link #379
Iron Maw Banned Join Date: Feb 2006	Oh? That's pretty interesting then. I'm still not sure it would be the same for Esdese though.

2012-06-08, 04:06	Link #380
Soji Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Europe	Iron Maw@I'm not totaly sure because was only one panel ....if I recall right this happen in ch 20. You see Tatsumi in Incursio mode with a sword like thing in his hand and that sword seem to be Incursio Key color and form. Though Spoiler for spoiler: seem that Tatsumi like more fight Hand to hand when he use Incursio....I'm start to wonder how much stronger he would be with Incursio active + sword with the sword skill that he had.