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Rising Dragon · 2012-01-30, 22:26

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Originally Posted by Ithekro

Too much collateral damage. Los Angeles is the second largest city in the United States after New York City.

Having lived in LA for 10 years I can safely say that the collateral damage to that city would be a tragedy.

Because in the words of that child who spoke to Bush in the joke, it wouldn't be an accident and it certainly wouldn't be a great loss...

SaintessHeart · 2012-01-31, 00:52

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Originally Posted by Ithekro

Some states I think still allow Potato Guns, which are sort of a mortar. They usually don't allow explosives, but we have creative people around that can (and have) worked around that. There are also pneumatic guns.

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Originally Posted by Vexx

Smart people can make weapons out of almost anything and not just pop guns

Potatoes can generate electricity (potato battery), and can be cut into an aerodynamic shape. And you can have the main components of plastic explosives from wax and bleach.

Now who says potatoes aren't dangerous?

Ithekro · 2012-01-31, 00:58

Which is why they are outlawed in some states. The potato guns...not the potato itself.

Vexx · 2012-01-31, 04:24

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Originally Posted by Ithekro

Which is why they are outlawed in some states. The potato guns...not the potato itself.

Hmmmm, potato grower.... Ah bet yur a terrrrurist. You have fertilizer in your garage, too!! And Gasoline!

I've made several potato guns over the years. The best one I made would fire a potato 500 feet straight up in just about two seconds (we used it in a science program to teach the younglings how to compute velocity and triangulate altitude). PVC, plumber's glue, hairspray, and a camp light igniter switch.

SaintessHeart · 2012-01-31, 07:22

If potatoes are outlawed Xellos would be crying. He always wanted to own a potato farm.

HasuMasu · 2012-01-31, 07:23

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Originally Posted by SaintessHeart

Potatoes can generate electricity (potato battery), and can be cut into an aerodynamic shape. And you can have the main components of plastic explosives from wax and bleach.

Now who says potatoes aren't dangerous?

Potato...rail-gun?

DonQuigleone · 2012-01-31, 12:45

I'm sticking to bottle rockets.

Zakoo · 2012-01-31, 13:25

I just thought about it, but a website like fanfiction have top stop functionning with such a law no? Since people there are using universe, characters of others.

Vexx · 2012-01-31, 14:38

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Originally Posted by Zakoo

I just thought about it, but a website like fanfiction have top stop functionning with such a law no? Since people there are using universe, characters of others.

You're exactly right - such a site could be silenced.

Most of you are probably too young to remember that when Star Trek revived as major franchise, the owning studios did just that. They started up their own website for Star Trek and then proceeded to legally squash fansites, use of imagery, use of characters, even *reviewing* Star Trek was attacked. It was, of course a public relations disaster but the damage was done. And that was just using the available laws in the 90s (pre-DMCA). Since then, the MPAA/RIAA/etc has been successfully moving the laws from civil matters to criminalizing... essentially thought crime. Now instead of just grabbing your wallet, they want to put you in jail for repeating ideas they "own".

Lord of Fire · 2012-02-01, 15:09

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Originally Posted by Vexx

You're exactly right - such a site could be silenced.

Most of you are probably too young to remember that when Star Trek revived as major franchise, the owning studios did just that. They started up their own website for Star Trek and then proceeded to legally squash fansites, use of imagery, use of characters, even *reviewing* Star Trek was attacked. It was, of course a public relations disaster but the damage was done. And that was just using the available laws in the 90s (pre-DMCA). Since then, the MPAA/RIAA/etc has been successfully moving the laws from civil matters to criminalizing... essentially thought crime. Now instead of just grabbing your wallet, they want to put you in jail for repeating ideas they "own".

Didn't they eventually use some of those ideas for their official stories, or am I thinking of something else now?

Ithekro · 2012-02-01, 16:37

Sme of the fan writer and such actually worked for them eventually so somethings got in that way. Also a few fans became actors, which also presented itself with input.

Now there are lots, and lots of fansites and fan works. About the only product line I would have rather have survived was FASA's Star Trek Roleplaying Game and associated fictions.

C.A. · 2012-02-02, 04:59

After Megaupload, now its Pirate Bay:

http://blogs.wsj.com/tech-europe/201...ght-to-appeal/

HasuMasu · 2012-02-02, 05:22

Oh come on, will they all die out? I certainly hope not.

djmaca · 2012-02-02, 06:19

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Originally Posted by Detective-san

Oh come on, will they all die out? I certainly hope not.

Spoiler for Filipino News:

Tsk tsk. Are we finally in the end because of goddamn Hollywood?

HasuMasu · 2012-02-02, 06:36

^ No way, and i thought we were too skwater for that stuff.

We must preserve our skwater-ness along with all our pirated merchandise.

Dhomochevsky · 2012-02-02, 06:54

Here we have a nice example of the negative impact of IP legislation:
sankakucomplex: miku-youtube-videos-deleted-en-masse

My personal speculation is, that this is some western internet community trying to make a point. Somthing like SA-boards would be a primal suspect.

But if you got legislation already in place that enables random internet trolls to wreck major havoc on our culture without any fear of repercussion and the IP-lobby is still pushing for even more extreme measures, you know something is really wrong.
And keep in mind that the only reason Youtube is actually getting away with only doing that much, is because it's backed by Google's massive stash of money.

HasuMasu · 2012-02-02, 07:17

Miku? Alright, it's time to channel my inner Kamijou Touma!!

Spoiler for SAVE MIKU:

Zakoo · 2012-02-02, 08:20

We will let you punch them.

Vexx · 2012-02-02, 14:39

Basically.... we're in a situation where if I take a picture of my Rock Band characters playing (or a video) and post it, I can be charged with a crime for using "intellectual property" I don't own -- even though I created my own characters and bought the tune they are playing.

Almost all of our avatars and sigs... are crimes. Technically, if I stand in front of a corporate icon, take my picture with it and post it on Facebook - I'm violating IP.

Note I'm not saying they'll actually prosecute *all* infractions - just that they'll create an atmosphere of oppression and uncertainty so you (and all the artist/creators) are paralyzed without their monetized "help".

The Miku incident on youtube illustrates the quicksand we're headed into (whether or not the take-downs were frivolous).

Reckoner · 2012-02-02, 15:38

If piratebay goes down, it's also likely nyaa goes down with it some time in the future, they're both located in Sweden. Could this be the beginning of the end for the age of fansubbing?

2012-01-31, 00:58	Link #223
Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	Which is why they are outlawed in some states. The potato guns...not the potato itself. __________________

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2012-02-01, 16:37	Link #231
Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	Sme of the fan writer and such actually worked for them eventually so somethings got in that way. Also a few fans became actors, which also presented itself with input. Now there are lots, and lots of fansites and fan works. About the only product line I would have rather have survived was FASA's Star Trek Roleplaying Game and associated fictions. __________________

2012-02-02, 04:59	Link #232
C.A. Absolute Haruhist! Artist Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 36	After Megaupload, now its Pirate Bay: http://blogs.wsj.com/tech-europe/201...ght-to-appeal/ __________________ No longer a NEET so I'll not be online as often. Ignore gender and kick sexuality to the curb! I'm a big mecha fan, who keeps playing the SRW series. When I say 'My god...', god refers to Haruhi-sama. My art album updated 11th May 2013, Science. Deviant Art: http://ca0001.deviantart.com/

2012-02-02, 05:22	Link #233
HasuMasu Senior Member Artist Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: The Middle Way	Oh come on, will they all die out? I certainly hope not. __________________

2012-01-31, 12:45	Link #227
DonQuigleone Knight Errant Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Dublin, Ireland Age: 35	I'm sticking to bottle rockets.

2012-01-31, 13:25	Link #228
Zakoo Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Gensokyo	I just thought about it, but a website like fanfiction have top stop functionning with such a law no? Since people there are using universe, characters of others.

2012-02-02, 06:36	Link #235
HasuMasu Senior Member Artist Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: The Middle Way	^ No way, and i thought we were too skwater for that stuff. We must preserve our skwater-ness along with all our pirated merchandise. __________________

2012-02-02, 06:54	Link #236
Dhomochevsky temporary safeguard Join Date: May 2004 Location: Germany	Here we have a nice example of the negative impact of IP legislation: sankakucomplex: miku-youtube-videos-deleted-en-masse My personal speculation is, that this is some western internet community trying to make a point. Somthing like SA-boards would be a primal suspect. But if you got legislation already in place that enables random internet trolls to wreck major havoc on our culture without any fear of repercussion and the IP-lobby is still pushing for even more extreme measures, you know something is really wrong. And keep in mind that the only reason Youtube is actually getting away with only doing that much, is because it's backed by Google's massive stash of money.

2012-02-02, 07:17	Link #237
HasuMasu Senior Member Artist Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: The Middle Way	Miku? Alright, it's time to channel my inner Kamijou Touma!! Spoiler for SAVE MIKU: "How can they do this? So what if she's virtual, they're just using loopholes in the system to take down other people's happiness! What am I if I can't even save one virtual girl? Copyright? Who gives a shit! If you think you can trample all over the feelings of Miku's fans for your corporate bullshit, then I'll just have to shatter that illusion of yours!!" __________________

2012-02-02, 08:20	Link #238
Zakoo Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Gensokyo	We will let you punch them.

2012-02-02, 14:39	Link #239
Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 66	Basically.... we're in a situation where if I take a picture of my Rock Band characters playing (or a video) and post it, I can be charged with a crime for using "intellectual property" I don't own -- even though I created my own characters and bought the tune they are playing. Almost all of our avatars and sigs... are crimes. Technically, if I stand in front of a corporate icon, take my picture with it and post it on Facebook - I'm violating IP. Note I'm not saying they'll actually prosecute all infractions - just that they'll create an atmosphere of oppression and uncertainty so you (and all the artist/creators) are paralyzed without their monetized "help". The Miku incident on youtube illustrates the quicksand we're headed into (whether or not the take-downs were frivolous). __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Novel series rough drafts; vol. 1 thru vol. 3 complete Volume 4 in work, Visit the thread for short stories!