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Old 2008-02-15, 00:59   Link #2761
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Weird I gotta take a look at it again.

But it's impossible because that would mean Setsuna would've had to go to ireland and then back where his village gets slaughtered.

Unless Lockon's parents were missionaries or something or humantarian aids.

EDIT: Took a look again and Lockon's parents were defintely in Ireland.
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Old 2008-02-15, 01:20   Link #2762
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Spoilers i've read is only about Setsuna being involved in an incident with someone he knew at present, not Setsuna killing Lockon's parents.
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Old 2008-02-15, 04:34   Link #2763
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I've read speculation that the Gundams are literally powered by how emo the pilots are.
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Old 2008-02-15, 06:02   Link #2764
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I had the impression, too. But according to the newest spoilers that Setsuna was the one who killed Lockon's family I'm slightly unsure if he only fought in the East. I mean, it doesn't look to me logical, either. I say it only accroding to spoilers.
Spoilers don't have to be taken seriously though and yeah it does seem illogical. Setsuna being too young as in 4 or 5 years old to have caused the death of lockon's parents and being in the wrong country and all that.
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Old 2008-02-15, 13:09   Link #2765
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People are assuming this because Setsuna was a "terrorist", except he wasn't, and Lockon's family was killed by terrorists.

It's much more likely he has something to do with Marina, which would also explain why he keeps visiting her.
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Old 2008-02-15, 14:10   Link #2766
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Spoilers don't have to be taken seriously though and yeah it does seem illogical. Setsuna being too young as in 4 or 5 years old to have caused the death of lockon's parents and being in the wrong country and all that.
He had to be 7 or 8, not 4 or 5. But that's not the point. Setsuna being involved in something that happened in Ireland so many years ago really does seem unlikely.
But from what was said in Animedia (if I'm not mistaken, it was Animedia), we know that there is "some yet unrevealed and unknown incident in the past between Setsuna and Lockon that will be make known to Lockon in time" and that "Setsuna was involved in Terrorist activites as a child under Ali. And the various lifes he took bears relation to somebody he knew in the present".
And then, we've already seen Lockon pointing a gun at Setsuna in Episode 19 preview where it was also stated that "The one he needed to take revange on was right there. Learning that truth, Lockon Stratos takes a gun in his hand along with violent emotions."
It's really not too farfetched to say that Setsuna was a part from that terrorist attack.
But we'll know it for sure in a few hours.
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Old 2008-02-15, 14:22   Link #2767
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But the part that doesn't make sense is what is a child soldier from the middle east doing in Ireland and then coming back?
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Old 2008-02-15, 14:36   Link #2768
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Actually, I'm wondering the same. But if Setsuna really was a part of it, we'll get an explanation for sure. And I hope it will be a good one
The only possibility I can think of now is that Ali provided Irish terrorists (was it the Real IRA, i wonder?) with all the stuff they needed for this opperation and that was the point where Setsuna got involved.
But than again, from what we know now, it sounds like Setsuna had to play a bigger part in Lockon's family's death.
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Old 2008-02-16, 04:52   Link #2769
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New batch of rumours :-

・アレハンドロはリボンズを介してヴェーダに接触し、疑似太陽炉を搭載したなんちゃってガンダムを各陣営に 10機ずつ合計30機ほど横流しする
・なんちゃってガンダムは20話辺りから登場。生き残りのフラッグファイターが乗り換え。
ただし、グラハムは「フラッグで勝たないと意味がない」と拒否し、結果として隊からも離脱、ポニテマンとフ ラッグの魔改造の道をひた走る。
・アレルヤは退場。TV版カミーユみたいなことになる。キュリオスがどうなるかは不明。
・ティエリアが2回ほど絶望する。1回はヴェーダに、もう1回はロックオンに。ロックオンはティエリアを庇 って退場。
・絹江、クリスなども退場。
・刹那は特に覚醒したりはしない。妄想が多くなる

Translation :-

1.Alejandro comes into contect with Veda via Ribbons, and give each faction about 10 Gundams (Total about 30 G's in all) each having the GN Drives that's powering the Thrones.
2.By Episode 20, most of the Flags will be replaced. Graham believes that "there's no point in defeating the Enemy if I'm not piloting a Flag" and refuse to ride the new MS and leave the Union. He will go down the road as a Flag manic piloting more variations of the old Flags.
3.Allelujah got his brain fried ala TV Z Gundam Kamiyu , Kyrios whereabout becomes unknown.
4.Tieria will be driven to despair for 2 times in a row. First be Veda and followed by Lockon. Lockon later shoots Tieria beyond the edge.
5. Kinue and Chris will leaves the stage.
6. Setsuna will not have any power up of sorts. It's all in his mind.
So the first rumour have been proven kinda true in ep 19 with the 300 GN Drives shown. Anyone see the point in doubting the rest ?
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Old 2008-02-16, 04:54   Link #2770
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So the first rumour have been proven kinda true in ep 19 with the 300 GN Drives shown. Anyone see the point in doubting the rest ?
30 actually, not 300 (I think the poster had Spartans in his head when he posted that )
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Old 2008-02-16, 05:17   Link #2771
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Looks like it's turning to be true. But I wonder about the last rumor, about all in Setsuna's mind?
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Old 2008-02-16, 06:05   Link #2772
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Looks like it's turning to be true. But I wonder about the last rumor, about all in Setsuna's mind?
Maybe he'll become more mature or something?
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Old 2008-02-16, 06:05   Link #2773
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O_o Now that the thing about 30 GN drive is true, so it seems this rumour is true as well? Now, I'm worried about Graham.


New batch of rumours :-

・アレハンドロはリボンズを介してヴェーダに接触し、疑似太陽炉を搭載したなんちゃってガンダ ムを各陣営に 10機ずつ合計30機ほど横流しする
・なんちゃってガンダムは20話辺りから登場。生き残りのフラッグファイターが乗り換え。
ただし、グラハムは「フラッグで勝たないと意味がない」と拒否し、結果として隊からも離脱、ポ ニテマンとフ ラッグの魔改造の道をひた走る。
・アレルヤは退場。TV版カミーユみたいなことになる。キュリオスがどうなるかは不明。
・ティエリアが2回ほど絶望する。1回はヴェーダに、もう1回はロックオンに。ロックオンはテ ィエリアを庇 って退場。
・絹江、クリスなども退場。
・刹那は特に覚醒したりはしない。妄想が多くなる

Translation :-

1.Alejandro comes into contect with Veda at Ribonz, and give each faction about 10 Gundams (Total about 30 G's in all) each having the GN Drives that's powering the Thrones.
2.By Episode 20, most of the Flags will be replaced. Graham believes that "there's no point in defeating the Enemy if I'm not piloting a Flag" and refuse to ride the new MS and leave the Union. He will go down the road as a Flag manic piloting more variations of the old Flags.
3.Allelujah got his brain fried ala TV Z Gundam Kamiyu , Kyrios whereabout becomes unknown.
4.Tieria will be driven to despair for 2 times in a row. First be Veda and followed by Lockon. Lockon later shoots Tieria beyond the edge.
5. Kinue and Chris will leaves the stage.
6. Setsuna will not have any power up of sorts. It's all in his mind.
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Old 2008-02-16, 06:07   Link #2774
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O_o Now that the thing about 30 GN drive is true, so it seems this rumour is true as well? Now, I'm worried about Graham.


New batch of rumours :-

・アレハンドロはリボンズを介してヴェーダに接触し、疑似太陽炉を搭載したなんちゃってガンダ ムを各陣営に 10機ずつ合計30機ほど横流しする
・なんちゃってガンダムは20話辺りから登場。生き残りのフラッグファイターが乗り換え。
ただし、グラハムは「フラッグで勝たないと意味がない」と拒否し、結果として隊からも離脱、ポ ニテマンとフ ラッグの魔改造の道をひた走る。
・アレルヤは退場。TV版カミーユみたいなことになる。キュリオスがどうなるかは不明。
・ティエリアが2回ほど絶望する。1回はヴェーダに、もう1回はロックオンに。ロックオンはテ ィエリアを庇 って退場。
・絹江、クリスなども退場。
・刹那は特に覚醒したりはしない。妄想が多くなる

Translation :-

1.Alejandro comes into contect with Veda at Ribonz, and give each faction about 10 Gundams (Total about 30 G's in all) each having the GN Drives that's powering the Thrones.
2.By Episode 20, most of the Flags will be replaced. Graham believes that "there's no point in defeating the Enemy if I'm not piloting a Flag" and refuse to ride the new MS and leave the Union. He will go down the road as a Flag manic piloting more variations of the old Flags.
3.Allelujah got his brain fried ala TV Z Gundam Kamiyu , Kyrios whereabout becomes unknown.
4.Tieria will be driven to despair for 2 times in a row. First be Veda and followed by Lockon. Lockon later shoots Tieria beyond the edge.
5. Kinue and Chris will leaves the stage.
6. Setsuna will not have any power up of sorts. It's all in his mind.

this has been posted already in the news section but thanks anways
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Old 2008-02-16, 06:11   Link #2775
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O_o Now that the thing about 30 GN drive is true, so it seems this rumour is true as well? Now, I'm worried about Graham.


New batch of rumours :-

・アレハンドロはリボンズを介してヴェーダに接触し、疑似太陽炉を搭載したなんちゃってガンダ ムを各陣営に 10機ずつ合計30機ほど横流しする
・なんちゃってガンダムは20話辺りから登場。生き残りのフラッグファイターが乗り換え。
ただし、グラハムは「フラッグで勝たないと意味がない」と拒否し、結果として隊からも離脱、ポ ニテマンとフ ラッグの魔改造の道をひた走る。
・アレルヤは退場。TV版カミーユみたいなことになる。キュリオスがどうなるかは不明。
・ティエリアが2回ほど絶望する。1回はヴェーダに、もう1回はロックオンに。ロックオンはテ ィエリアを庇 って退場。
・絹江、クリスなども退場。
・刹那は特に覚醒したりはしない。妄想が多くなる

Translation :-

1.Alejandro comes into contect with Veda at Ribonz, and give each faction about 10 Gundams (Total about 30 G's in all) each having the GN Drives that's powering the Thrones.
2.By Episode 20, most of the Flags will be replaced. Graham believes that "there's no point in defeating the Enemy if I'm not piloting a Flag" and refuse to ride the new MS and leave the Union. He will go down the road as a Flag manic piloting more variations of the old Flags.
3.Allelujah got his brain fried ala TV Z Gundam Kamiyu , Kyrios whereabout becomes unknown.
4.Tieria will be driven to despair for 2 times in a row. First be Veda and followed by Lockon. Lockon later shoots Tieria beyond the edge.
5. Kinue and Chris will leaves the stage.
6. Setsuna will not have any power up of sorts. It's all in his mind.

Looks like a joke to me, with the flag, and "tieria's despair", note that Zetsubou Sensei-whoops i mean itoshiki sensei, has the same voice actor as tieria.

Graham loves the gundams, so thats verrrrry unlikey.

One real rumor, Saji will pilot one of the gundam units
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Old 2008-02-16, 07:36   Link #2776
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Old 2008-02-16, 07:45   Link #2777
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Oh cool.
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Old 2008-02-16, 07:45   Link #2778
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Looks like I owe MakubeX2 an apology.
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Old 2008-02-16, 09:38   Link #2779
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I'll like to admit I might have made a mistake in translating this part in regards to the revelation between Tieria and Lockon "ロックオンはティエリアを庇 って退場。"

I can't seem to tell whether it Lockon pushing Tieria over the edge or is it the other way round. Someone please verify so that there's no misleding the crowds just like what happen the last time when I can tell what that kanji is.
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Old 2008-02-16, 09:48   Link #2780
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New influx of rumours that spokes of all events leading to the end of season 1. Will get down to translation as soon as I figured the otaku nicknames and slangs in regards to the characters/places/mechs.....

1.アムロはヴェーの居場所を発見し国連野郎随伴でその場所へ
2.国連野郎の手引きでモドキが各国に配備されるも各国は
自前の機械として世界に発表してガンダム倒す宣言
3.ヒロシその決定の中一機よこせと交渉する
4.交渉帰りに偶々突撃リポーターの姉を車でパンパン
5.隣の小僧はお葬式で姉の調べていた事をその上司に告げられる
6.ハムはモドキ搭乗拒否で黒人は乗る
7.ロン毛は横流しのモドキの技術でさらなる魔改造に着手する
8.鳥の居場所は中華に大発見されるけど中華は半分鳥の見方になる
9.鳥に指示出してる奴はヒロシに殺された
10鳥兄弟モドキに苦戦しつつも何機か倒すがエネルギー足りないので逃げる
11.兄さんはメガネロボを助けるため目がぁぁぁあああーー
12.メガネロボはヴェーに振られて兄さんも負傷で大挫折
13.兄さんハロ好き女の気持ち知ってると思うけどメガネロボに叱咤激励、ハロ好き女ショボ~ン
14.縞々水着の盗撮者は体がダースベイダー
15.アル中女はヴェーの事態を予測して4機の接続を変更
16.鳥兄弟の巣は発見されて攻撃受ける 中華に助けを求めるが時既に遅し
17.長兄次兄はヒロシに騙され撃たれて死ぬ
18.釘も殺されそうになるけど宇宙からのデンドロビュウムな元子供ゲリラに助けられる
19.ヒロシ奪った大剣ガンダムで子供ゲリラ圧倒
20.宇宙のとある凸凹大地ではヴェーが晒され髭ハゲ光臨
国連野郎大喜びで一人演説するも直後コロコロ
21アムロの秘密大公開
22.子供ゲリラ地上で凹られるもアムロの秘宝で真のエクシア大解放
23.子供ゲリラに乗せられてみんな突撃覚悟決定♪
24.多重人格者脳障害でロザミアやカミーユみたいに
25.ハムさん魔改造なんちゃって太陽炉で大活躍で阿修羅
26.マイオス轟沈大脱出で青いのと黄色いの生存
そして物語は終局へ…
蛇足情報
※以前子供ゲリラが怒ってエクシアの剣の切れ味が増してヒロシをビックリさせたのは複線
※都合良く色々知ってる妄想の姫はやっぱり子供ゲリラ脳内生成の幻影
※GNで肉切られると変異して再生不能
※太陽炉はSF好きなら予想できるぞ
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