2012-08-07, 18:30 | Link #881 |
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Even assuming they transported the thing to Jupiter, one wonders why the Gamilas needed an entire continent for a relatively small resupply base. Surely a space station or two would do?
Then again, sci-fi verses don't exactly withstand such scrutiny. Any physics enthusiast would laugh at the technobabble behind the Wave Motion Gun. I know I did. Oh yeah, and all hail Galaxy Express 999! Hey, you brought it up. |
2012-08-07, 19:11 | Link #882 |
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Ok, I've finally watched eps. 5 & 6. Not bad. I suppose Schulz getting another shot at the Yamato will have to wait.
Interesting that the Reflex Gun's primary function was made into the creator of the meteor bombs. It must mean that it injects radioactivity into whatever it hits (and I can only assume the Yamato's shields countered said radioactivity). I hope something interesting is made of the racism thing. Otherwise it would've been better to just give Schulz and co. blue skin. If Rei does indeed become part of a love triangle, I hope she gives Yuki a run for her money, even given the foregone conclusion. Otherwise it's just another love triangle for its own sake. I'm looking forward to the next ep. The original was one of my favorites, and frankly I hope characterization in general goes deeper this time around, even if this is far from a character driven series. Last edited by mitsuganae; 2012-08-07 at 19:35. |
2012-08-07, 19:36 | Link #883 |
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My guess, judging by the plants, is that the Floating Contintent is there to provide ample biological stock to make Earth inhabitable again once the Humans die off, or if they had surrendered like Schulz people did. Inhabitable for the Gamilas anyway.
Also they could use it to claim it as part of Gamilas. Extreme flag planting. Land a continent on a newly claimed world in the name of the Gamilas Empire. It takes bringing a piece of home with you to an entirely other level. My guess is that the Empire's racism is going to bite them in the foot once Yamato penetrates deeper into the Empire. Liberating worlds on they way in, and causing chaos with the other parts of the Empire if the High Command cannot take out one, single, Earth ship. As for the love triangles. It is early yet. But with five main named women, there is a huge possible selection of triangles to octogons on that ship. Yuria has been seen with the young security guard (the one that has been labeled as "gonna die") more than once now, though what feeling they might have is unclear. The Security Chief seems like a stalker type, but that might be just his perpetual smug smile. Makoto seems interested in how Kodai and Mori's relationship goes, though she seems to take care of Kato a lot so far. Yamamoto doesn't seem to be the time for romance, but Yuki and Nambu might misunderstand things. He's known Kato for a while at least, but no sparks their that I can see save for he seems to want to protect her from dying like her brother did under his command. Nambu seems interested in Yuki (but who isn't?). Shima seems interested as well, but always seems to come in right when she's mad at Kodai and get's brushed off. Niimi seems rather interested in Sanada. Kodai sees Sasha in Yuki, be she an alien or not. He is not quite picking up her signals yet, as she's visably changed tones after Saturn.
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2012-08-07, 20:02 | Link #884 |
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I hope the women don't exist solely to be love interests. IMHO Yuki was a love interest and not much more in the original series. And it bothers me somewhat that she's starting to fall for him after the Saturn mission, even if he did indeed save her petite ass.
Let the shipping/ship puns begin. What if Schulz switches sides? That would be an interesting wrinkle. Extreme flag planting, LOL. |
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...and her ass isn't THAT petite :P it made a plenty good shield for that Robot carrying her!
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2012-08-07, 20:31 | Link #886 |
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Then that means it's just another romance for the sake of romance. There are far too many of those icky things around.
Look, I'm not expetcing Dante & Beatrice, or even Benedict & (another) Beatrice. But like any element of fiction, romance has to be convincing and interesting, no matter what the genre. Something on the level of Hikaru & Misa would do, though I doubt romance on this series will be that interesting. |
2012-08-07, 20:34 | Link #887 |
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I'm presently not expecting them all to make it back. Most of the romance might be fleeting at best, if used at all.
But then there have been shipping wars for characters that aren't in a romance at all. I am just wondering what those that have never seen the show before will do when it comes to Yuki and Kodai. Most of the women on the ship seem to be there to fill in one of Yuki's many roles (Mokoto = Nurse/fanservice, Yuria = relief radar operator with a hint of filling in Be Forever, Yamato's Sasha role with the supernatural, and Yamamoto for the action girl secton Yuki took up in the Live Action Film) or to provide someone to give exposition (Niimi so Sanada doesn't have to explain everything or know everything come to think of it.). Yuki can now have more focus on her career which kept getting tossed aside every time they had her do some odd job, or go back to being a Nurse.
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I honestly have no problem with that. There IS a middle ground between sweeping and melodramatic romance, and not having it entirely. Quote:
Since when are the positions of intelligence officer radar operator and fighter pilot often considered secondary roles reserved for women? The US Military has gotten pretty progressive to allow men to serve in such feminine positions! edit: And the trigger puller argument doesn't really work either. Going over the character profile page on the Yamato 2199 website...there are like ELEVEN guys whose official role on the ship doesn't involve shooting at anyone. Are they in secondary roles usually reserved for women?
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2012-08-07, 21:45 | Link #890 |
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They haven't had any of them serving drinks or washing clothes, which seemed to be something else either Yuki or Analyzer did. But than I think Yuki was probably the one crewmember that had to most tasks done of all of them. About the only things she never did were strictly combat oriented on ship (and the live action version changed that with her as a fighter pilot/combat group, and her 2009 Resurrection appearance as a battleship captain (a decidedly combat role)). Though she lead a resistance unit into combat in Be Forever, Yamato.
Yuki could do pretty much anything on the ship. A jack of all trades, I suppose. Now, in 2199, Yuki seems capable of self defense (something she was not known for previously, even if she was shown to be a crack shot), and seems to be a military career officer. That is...if she's not an alien. I can't tell yet, but Niimi could easily be an inventor or at least the most knowledgable person when it comes to how the Wave Motion Engine and Gun work. She is clearly facsinated by the Gamilas technology, and is certainly more personable than Sanada. Yuria is young and impressionable. She does run the ship's nightly radio broadcast (which they say they will incorperate into the show itself). Not quite enough on her yet to know what to make of her. She is suppose to be the one that can see the supernatural, so I imagine if they need to have the ship contacted mysteriously by Starsha or perhaps the youngest sister (if she is not Yuki Mori), it will be Yuria that does it. Yamamoto kicks ass. I like her. If things go as they usually go, I know what will happen to her eventually. But if that happens, she'll go with honor and a salute. Makoto. Well someone had to fill in the fanservice role I guess, since Analyzer's not the horny robot anymore with only Yuki to pick on. She does seem to fill in the empathy factor Yuki use to fill in righting other crew member's emotions when they get tilted by events. She did that with Kato after he had that arguement with the locker. Setting him back to normal rather than continue to be upset with Yamamoto. I am usually more concerned about the techology and history that the character interactions.
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Wasn't complaining about action girl (I said "mostly secondary" to the list as a whole, not every job on the list). Unfortunately, radar operation and military intelligence are often viewed as secondary jobs compared to, say, navigation or weapons control, by both creators and fans, especially in such a genre and despite the great importance of those tasks in reality. More broadly and more importanty, percieved job importance doesn't always equal role importance in a fictional work (poor choice of words on my part when I said "secondary functions" -- I should've said "perceived secondary jobs"), but it happens often enough. One doesn't expect the nurse to be the hero in this genre. And no one wants to be Mr./Mrs. exposition.Probably for the best given the nature of the series.
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...though mind. So far Yamato 2199 doesn't seem to be shaping up to be the kind of show that dismisses the support roles on the Yamato. Everything so far has seemed to emphasize how running the Yamato is a huge logistical undertaking, that requires dedicated specialists performing technical work. Only roughly one in three of all the crew even have jobs that can be construed of as combat oriented.
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2012-08-07, 22:34 | Link #893 |
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Yamato III took it a step farther by placing one of the new main characters into what they would call the accounting department (what Yamamoto was in before her transfere to the fighter wing). And they left him there for most of the show. Sort of to teach that all the roles on the ship are important. And leasons like "A hungry crew can't function"
Of course at that time, his section chief was Yuki Mori. Now it would be Hajime Hirata (who was the new character's mentor early in Yamato III). Oddly, Hirata is the only other member of the main crew that doesn't have his prefecture of origin listed other than Yuki Mori.
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Speaking of which. The Yamato turning itself into a submarine by turning over was a boss and a half! And Okita even got a periscope!
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Hey, the possibility of Yuki being an alien is a potentially interesting wrinkle, though Starsha mentioning two sisters could just be a red herring, or it might lead to a completely different path (new character perhaps?). |
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2012-08-08, 00:43 | Link #896 |
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It is probably a good thing that Yamamoto was transfered so soon after leaving port, within 10 days. That way not too much stuff has been moved around and Hirata can train a replacement if they really need one.
Or that will be a constant hole in the department until Ryuske Domon (Jason Jetter) arrives some years later. Spoiler for casualties over the course of the series:
One department that didn't seem to get replacements until the third series was the Life Sciences Division. The Science department got a few new people here and there, but not in numbers. Most replacements seem to be Engineering, Combat Teams/Gunnery, Navigation, and the Fighter Squadrons. Though to be fair, it was rare to see the Life Sciences Division taking casualties since they are probably in the most protected depths of the ship...and not near the generally vital areas that keep getting attacked.
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As far as what as been said about Yamamoto and her possible outcome (guessing you meant her/his fate in Yamato 2), remember that, as pilots go, there was only Kato and Yamamoto in the main cast. If Shinohara reaches season 2 (if they make it at all), i see him taking the place of Yamamoto in the breaching of Gatlantis. Seing how popular she has become in 2199 i doubt they'll kill her there. Then again, Yamato is well known for killing popular main characters for dramatic effect (though i believe that was a Nishizaki thing). As far as Kato's concerned, killing him just to bring his "twin" in to fill his place would be stupid. Lets see. The long wait for chapter 3 begins. |
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Episode 1
This is something interesting and non-typical for a change. I've watched the movie, but this is something else. Overflowing with action, but also everyday life on a very different Earth. Very interesting to watch with a good story. This feels like something between Evangelion & Battlestar Galactica. Will be watching it. Episode 2 It was kinda weird that they were attacking an old battleship. It was even weirder that that shipped returned fire! Interesting how effective it actually was. Invite to Iscandar was perfectly timed. Sounds like it's too good to be true. So the Yamato mission begins! They sure had a fiery takeoff. Very much like the movie..
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(One thing I really liked about the Evangelion Rebuild movie, was they had a couple of shots of showing NERV ground personal moving in to reset the power cables for the Positron rifle after Ramiel blasted the Evangelions, and I think I like it for similar reasons of Yamato playing up the scale of the crew) That's the main reason I don't have any problems with the way the female cast is played. In a shitty sci-fi show female characters not being swashbuckling fighter pilots or space marines would make them irrelevant secondaries. But since the ship Yamato is a larger than life character in this story that requires the work of a thousand people to function, even the most minor jobs seem like they're of the utmost importance.
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