2013-04-10, 13:10 | Link #1601 | |
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But I don't think it's like, for example, the author decides the story should end with Kyousuke declaring his love to one girl, and "the publisher" comes in and is like (mob voice) "we really think you may want to, uh, re-consider this choice of ending, if you know what's best for you and your family"... and then suddenly Kyousuke falls in love with someone else in the final work. It's still the author's work at the end of the day. If he doesn't end it well, it's his own name on the cover of the book.
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2013-04-10, 13:13 | Link #1602 | |
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EDIT : From all the possible links in this page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dengeki_Bunko), I found 3 light novels with harem tags. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bludgeo...el_Dokuro-Chan ^ I tried reading the last volume of this series, which (if I'm not mistaken), is a clear Dokuro ending. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_Royale ^ This one is apparently not really a novel series, but a collection of short series in collaboration with readers of their manga. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ladies_versus_Butlers! ^ Well, I can't find anything past volume 8 translated or summarized for this, sorry. Theory/Possible conclusion : I think there is an unwritten rule among Dengeki Bunko editors to not allow harem endings. Furthermore, most questionable "incest" works (Kono Naka ni Hitori, Imōto ga Iru!, Oniichan dakedo Ai sae Areba Kankeinai yo ne!) would normally go to MF Bunko J instead. If Fushimi wanted to write an "incest" novel from the start, his editor would have referred him to MF Bunko J instead. That's an external reason for me to believe that Oreimo would have a clear, non-harem, non-Kirino ending. Last edited by icebreaker; 2013-04-10 at 14:09. |
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2013-04-10, 19:58 | Link #1604 | |
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I don't think there's any rule whatsoever that a novel imprint determines the sort of ending the author may write. And besides, claiming that this isn't a "questionable incest work" is a bit silly -- it's a story about an imouto who plays incest-themed eroge, and her tsundere relationship with her big brother (and whose feelings for him, and vice-versa, have been a major theme of the work). You can't handwave the whole thing now and be like "oh, this isn't an incest novel or else it would have gone to a different publisher". What have we been reading then...? I'm not saying that there will or will not be a Kirino ending in the next novel (as we've already discussed in this thread), but the logic used doesn't really hold up to scrutiny. It's sort of like trying to find statistics that support the conclusion you want to believe. (And besides, even if it were true that no novel ever published by that imprint had ever had a certain ending, there can always be a first...)
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2013-04-10, 20:08 | Link #1605 |
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...then in the epilogue, the author sends Kyousuke to a small village in Europe. We have Kyousuke sitting anxiously with Kuroneko the maid serving him some tea... then Ayase walks into the room with a new born baby and say "Congratulations, Kirino gave birth to a healthy sister to our child..."
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2013-04-10, 21:33 | Link #1608 | |
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Well, that's that. Sorry if I went out of my way, that's just simply a theory I randomly came up with when I suddenly realized how few actual open endings I have seen in Dengeki Bunko. |
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2013-04-10, 22:16 | Link #1612 | ||
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But anyway, I don't really understand the concern. There's no reason to believe that the author is going to want to do some ending and the publisher would forbid him. If you get that sort of conspiracy theory in your head, then you'll second-guess whatever the author writes and think "is that really what he wanted to write?" and it's endless.
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2013-04-10, 22:53 | Link #1613 | |
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They won't let the author write halfway through and suddenly say "you aren't allowed to end it like this". |
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2013-04-10, 23:54 | Link #1614 |
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Suggestions or 'pressure' is very different than 'demands' or 'orders'. Publishers use the former. The only risk is they may consider the author "difficult to work with" on future projects, I suppose.
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2013-04-13, 22:57 | Link #1616 |
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Well, episode 2 was adapted from an audio drama, but I don't think it necessarily has any bearing on how they choose to adapt the rest of the novels. The only thing I can imagine them doing (maybe) is having an "alternate ending" as was proposed above, and then the "true ending" on the Blu-Ray again. But even then I think it's unlikely. I'd guess the endings will be essentially the same.
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2013-04-14, 12:57 | Link #1617 |
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So, you guys, as hard it is to catch up on the forum main discussion, in lovers of the series, are the light novels worth picking up... or if I stay with the anime I won't lose any important monologues that may be important within the series that the anime left out, 'cause I've encountered that problem with a few anime adaption from LN and I just... No.
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2013-04-14, 13:13 | Link #1618 | |
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The anime offers the animation of some of my favorite scenes from the LN, and is something I can still look forward to even though "I know how things will turn out". The anime can act as a supplement, and shouldn't be criticized for not having every single scene drawn out. I also find the anime to be faithful enough to its original work. |
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2013-04-14, 13:29 | Link #1619 | |
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2013-04-14, 13:36 | Link #1620 | |
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Fate/Zero anyone?) The internet is my only source to asian literature and others.
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