Fate/ Series Q&A

[iamandragon]

Originally Posted by serialies

i thought a servant/spirit/counterguardian could aquire more noble phantasms even after their "dead"...eg if gil throws away (permenantly) one of his millions of swords and iono...archer decides to keep it wouldnt that make it archers phantasm? =/ maybe im wrong...

Good question. However Noble Phantasms cannot be 'traded' between counter guardians--they are already dead and can't have any growths. A heroic spirit is a crystallization of the wish of people and their image is fixed after it's been defined. Even if a hero throws away her sword the sword will still belong to its original owner and can't be utilized by others. They can keep it and hold onto it, but they still won't be able to unleash their properties.
And also, gil's swords aren't his Noble Phantasm. It's the gate that's the phantasm and the swords are simply 'ammo' that can be treated as Noble Phantasms.

Note: even if a servant destroys their own Noble Phantasm(via any means), he still 'owns' the weapon, but only the later form(even in the form of shards). If the servant disappears their Noble Phantasms will also disappear along with them.

[serialies]

Originally Posted by iamandragon

Good question. However Noble Phantasms cannot be 'traded' between counter guardians--they are already dead and can't have any growths. A heroic spirit is a crystallization of the wish of people and their image is fixed after it's been defined. Even if a hero throws away her sword the sword will still belong to its original owner and can't be utilized by others. They can keep it and hold onto it, but they still won't be able to unleash their properties.
And also, gil's swords aren't his Noble Phantasm. It's the gate that's the phantasm and the swords are simply 'ammo' that can be treated as Noble Phantasms.

Note: even if a servant destroys their own Noble Phantasm(via any means), he still 'owns' the weapon, but only the later form(even in the form of shards). If the servant disappears their Noble Phantasms will also disappear along with them.

if its a crystalization of the pplz wishes then wouldnt saber automatically -> a guy...cuz like...no one knew "he" was a "she" =/...and that would also mean eg if suddenly pplz decided to spread the rumour that gil had AIDS...and the rumor spread world wide wouldnt that mean gil would be summoned with AIDS? *headache* maybe im thinkin to much bout this XD

[Spectacular_Insanity]

I don't know if anyone's already asked this question or not, but could someone explain the meaning of the title of the series to me? Why is it called fate/stay night with the odd "/" in the title? Thanks in advance for you time.

[iamandragon]

Originally Posted by serialies

if its a crystalization of the pplz wishes then wouldnt saber automatically -> a guy...cuz like...no one knew "he" was a "she" =/...and that would also mean eg if suddenly pplz decided to spread the rumour that gil had AIDS...and the rumor spread world wide wouldnt that mean gil would be summoned with AIDS? *headache* maybe im thinkin to much bout this XD

Only the power of it is affacted by the people. The vessel isn't.

As for the title, dig up on older posts on this topic, you'll eventually find it.

[azurie]

was Fate/Zero and or Fate/ Hallow antraxia ever made into manga or were they just the H-games?

[iamandragon]

Fate/Zero is not a visual novel, a mistake of many, but it is just a novel. Traditional, words printed on paper novel. Neither have been adapted into mangas yet.

[Jer]

I just re-watched FSN (got myself depressed again for Saber leaving).... and I'm wondering if there are better versions in terms of video quality and resolution than what I have (h264+AAC 704x400). In other words, has FSN ever been aired in HD before? I presume that buying the DVD would be the best option to get the best viewing experience, but are there any HD versions out there? I tried searching for other fansubs but there aren't any. It's such a waste that this wonderful series can't be watched in full HD goodness. Pardon me if this is a useless question.

[azurie]

Originally Posted by iamandragon

Fate/Zero is not a visual novel, a mistake of many, but it is just a novel. Traditional, words printed on paper novel. Neither have been adapted into mangas yet.

i see so was there one made (i know was a h-game) for fate/ hallow antraxia?

[serialies]

ok new thought-questions

1. if servants cant gain new noble phantasms post-mortem then how is it possible for shiro to return avalon? ;P as it was stolen in Sabers lifetime it shouldnt fall into the condition of being bound to her spirit

2. why doesnt Saber be all like "lol shiro i knew ur father" or something along those lines

[iamandragon]

Originally Posted by serialies

ok new thought-questions

1. if servants cant gain new noble phantasms post-mortem then how is it possible for shiro to return avalon? ;P as it was stolen in Sabers lifetime it shouldnt fall into the condition of being bound to her spirit

2. why doesnt Saber be all like "lol shiro i knew ur father" or something along those lines

Shirou returns Saber's Avalon. You can loose your own belongings but it still belongs to you. Or do you want to say if I stole your computer it will no longer belong to you anymore? : P

I don't understand question two, can you be more specific?

[serialies]

Originally Posted by iamandragon

Shirou returns Saber's Avalon. You can loose your own belongings but it still belongs to you. Or do you want to say if I stole your computer it will no longer belong to you anymore? : P

I don't understand question two, can you be more specific?

ok in fate/zero saber is shiro's "fathers" servant (i dont need spoilers do i?...)
and seeing as its b4 shiro summons her wouldnt she be like "omfg i knew ur dad" or something?

[iamandragon]

Well Saber hates Shirou's father so I guess she would avoid that topic?

[serialies]

Originally Posted by iamandragon

Well Saber hates Shirou's father so I guess she would avoid that topic?

but still, she knows

Spoiler for possible spoiler?:

illyia's mother + was great friends with her yet she acts like "lol hoo are you OMGHUHAVABESERKER" and in the end she hates him a little less cuz she understands him (shiro's dad) more n stuff and even IF shes going to be like "ok lets not bring that up" shes been to fuyki(sp?) city b4 so why isnt she like "oh this shit again"

[iamandragon]

I was just guessing. Can you think of any reason?

[serialies]

Originally Posted by iamandragon

I was just guessing. Can you think of any reason?

a logical conclusion would be that the servants memory of a grail war gets wiped when they leave it...but then

Spoiler for just to be safe:

saber was able to remember shiro n stuff right before she dies

[iamandragon]

When a servant is summoned, it's actually the copy of the original that's sent out, when they're done with their job they simply disappear. However, because Saber is not a heroic spirit before she becomes a servant, her actual spirit is sent out all the time, so she gets to keep the memories. Same/similar case goes for Archer.

[serialies]

Originally Posted by iamandragon

When a servant is summoned, it's actually the copy of the original that's sent out, when they're done with their job they simply disappear. However, because Saber is not a heroic spirit before she becomes a servant, her actual spirit is sent out all the time, so she gets to keep the memories. Same/similar case goes for Archer.

what about true assassin(s) and their collective memory...

[Archer]

Originally Posted by iamandragon

When a servant is summoned, it's actually the copy of the original that's sent out, when they're done with their job they simply disappear. However, because Saber is not a heroic spirit before she becomes a servant, her actual spirit is sent out all the time, so she gets to keep the memories. Same/similar case goes for Archer.

Slightly off.

Archer's a regular heroic spirit, so it's his copy that's being sent out. When the job is done, all of the Heroic Spirits get a record of what their copies did. Note that this is only a record, and not an actual memory, so they never really experienced anything.

But you are correct on Saber's case.

As for Saber and Kiritsugu:

According to Saber, she did not want to mention the fact that:

1) She's an exception to Heroic Spirits
2) She didn't want to tell Shirou how Kiritsugu was like

Additionally, she was able to recall Illya.

[iamandragon]

As usual, Archer to save the day! :kisses Archer: (how many times have I kissed Archer already? he's just so realiable!)

[serialies]

Originally Posted by Archer

Slightly off.

Archer's a regular heroic spirit, so it's his copy that's being sent out. When the job is done, all of the Heroic Spirits get a record of what their copies did. Note that this is only a record, and not an actual memory, so they never really experienced anything.

hmm...thought archer was a counter guardian *scratch head* o well...ur him so i better take your word for it Xp