2013-04-07, 01:17 | Link #41 | |
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A header does not need to have a link to a thread or any other kind of text, maybe the Rules, not more. |
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2013-04-07, 01:24 | Link #43 | |
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General Anime is for overall things about anime that do not fit in other already-existing Anime Forum sections. General News on the other hand is a forum section that focuses on news in real life around the world. What a Sub-forum actually is, is a forum section that has the same general idea as the main section, it is just more detailed and specialised. |
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2013-04-07, 01:26 | Link #44 |
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Well, I was talking about Current Series/Older Series in this case. Right now every series that does not have a sub-forum can be found in the root. In my brain, there should be nothing in the root and a sub-forum called "Other" where all the series that don't have a sub-forum go. But I'm not proposing changing that now because everyone's used to it, and it's just my preference. It's just an example of the way my own brain thinks.
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sorry bit sleepy i mean "Other/General Discussion"
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2013-04-07, 01:32 | Link #46 | |
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More possibilities are given, better the chance it is to actually come up with an overall great organization. Even if you feel like you're the only one that would blend in that, it is usually quite the opposite at the forums of this size. (Community-looking) I would personally have no objection to that either, sounds good to me too. There are plenty of options on which to pick, we are trying to find out the ones that would fit for the biggest part of the community, but I think that we can all agree that the main point of this reorganization is to balance the forums' activity out. I forgot we even have an Other Discussion. Yeah, does make sense, the two are actually the same. Edit: Or no, wait, you got me confused again. |
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2013-04-07, 10:37 | Link #48 |
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Tbh this just looks like you're marginalizing general topics.
With this set up people are just going to be confined to certain sections and there will no longer be a pool for everyone site wide to participate in broad discussion on topics we can all relate to. Being relatively new here one problem I've come to face is the sheer amount of groupthink the current set up promotes. There are so few areas so post general topics (aka, topics that have the potential to get the most amount of varied replies) I feel like cutting them down even further would be worse. Sure it okay for the folks who're long time visitors who have certain areas of the board they feel most comfortable, but it really does alienate newcomers like myself. |
2013-04-07, 11:32 | Link #49 | |
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That being said, if you prefer to see everything as a giant pool, you can use the New Posts link to see all threads in a flat list sorted by what's recent. I have known people who use this as their main way to interact with the site, preferring to get a cross-section of the entire forum rather than go from section to section.
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2013-04-07, 12:16 | Link #51 | |
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Although it may be a bit hard, try being objective here. Think like you are a Staff member that has to satisfy everyone. That cannot be, so you'll go with the biggest part. Of course, if your request is the same as the still-unknown requests of others, it would be no problem. Checking the activity of the threads at that forum section would be the easiest way to check that theory out. |
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2013-04-07, 12:19 | Link #52 | |
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One of the reasons we thought about grouping it into a sub-forum was because that way all the threads about major studios and people can be found in one place, without having to search through all the threads about different topics. It's sort of like how all the threads about anime series are all in one place rather than being interspersed with other random anime topics. Not saying it has to be that way... but, again, at least my own brain likes to keep similar things together.
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2013-04-07, 12:25 | Link #53 |
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Well, those topics are the strongest and most talked-about in the real life, so I would agree on having them in their own sub-forum as well.
However, if we would have that kind of a "Social Statuses Sub-Forum", I would suggest creating a Sticky thread by the name "Philosophy" right away. |
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Basically we want to create enough (not less or more) traffic for each subforum while keep it nicely orginised. lets observe one by one
General Anime - News This certainly will be populated depending on flow of news. but conversial stuff like "loli ban" will be heavily discussed. - Anime "Hobby" (Figurines, Cosplay, Conevection) Figurines and Cosplay probably only have 1 thread. also this stuf tend to be closely connected to the convetion so i think is better to put it on one sub forum - Anime "Business" (Studio, Ranking, Sales) No need further explanation. just move those Studio, Sales, Ranking, etc thread. - Suggestions, Recommendations, and Identification No need further explanation. BUT I think is better to put "Likes, Dislikes, Contests, and Favourites" since it related to Recommendation. but if you think it easier to make separated Anime "Opinion" then go ahead - Other Discussion Yes i think this should been put as separated subforum instead root. for better organised and newbie tend to make thread in here even thought there is already sub forum that dealing with that thread. basically stuff that doesn't fit other Subforum. probably borderline stuff also like "Mecha anime is DOOMED" and OP explain it because lack of interest, poor sales, expensive to make, etc General Chat - News and Current Events General news thread, along with Science & Technology should be here. possibly along with serious dicussion like philosophy - Social Basically Sport, Entertainment, Hobbies and Fun. probably some RL problem like depression and such EDIT: Thought you can make seperated Hobbies and Entertainment subforum that strictly contain about Movie, Football, Photography, etc while Social subforum contain Laugh a day, Rate That Avatar!, "I NEED HELP!" stuff. other should be no problem
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From my experience, the more segmentation your forum has, the less activity it actually gets. I can already tell you that if AS decides to pursue such a policy with he general anime and general chat subforums, I'll probably stop visiting those sections altogether. I have less incentive to click on those links than a more general encompassing subforum. While general might be more chaotic, it also gives us a nice holistic picture of all sorts of conversations in the anime world (and for general everything else). I can click on those links and then participate in all sorts of conversations without having to look through like 10 different subforums.
Yes, I am lazy, but I am pretty sure most people on the interwebs are lazy. So personally, I don't like this idea. The only things I support are the splitting of light novels into their own section, and perhaps giving likes/dislikes/contests/favourties its own section. Other than that, I don't see the benefit of this approach whatsoever. It also just seems like more work for the moderators since now there are even more sections to police around here and they have to make sure that everything is on topic for those sections. Also, the fansubs subforum seems pretty worthless and archaic, so not sure why we still have it.
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I think one of the impulses for this reorganization is probably because they get tired of locking the threads and holding back the obviously present impulse of anime fans to broadcast their one true feelings here, while not allowing these to drown out other topics and make people like me get annoyed and start to flame people. _________ IMO I also see this reorganization as a chance to usefully "reclaiming" main forum space and form from the "Social Group ghetto" that things are sometimes shuttled into. Though not everything need to be brought back out in the open, of course (the fan clubs for example). |
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2013-04-07, 14:39 | Link #59 | |
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In any case, it just occurred to me that using the prefix tags might be a good way to have "soft" organization if we don't end up splitting the General Anime subforum, since there's at least the option to filter by tag for those who want it. |
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Basically (speaking for myself, but this proposal was also discussed with the other mods before posting it here), I'm not too satisfied with the balance we have right now, because it seems to me that a) there are a lot of people who want to discuss things more freely, and we're constantly trying to hold them back (i.e. stop creating so many best/worst threads, closing repetitive opinion threads, etc.), and b) the prevalence of these sorts of threads in the general sections may cause some people to lose interest entirely (because they can't be bothered to separate the wheat from the chaff). I'd rather create places for everyone to be able to create the sorts of posts that interest them and allow that to thrive, rather than this sort of awkward middleground. Of course, I acknowledge that nothing will please everyone, and fear of making a controversial change is sometimes what keeps us locked in the status quo. There's also nothing that says that we can't change our minds later as well. I was grouping it into "Metrics", but perhaps the label could use further refinement. Edit: Merchandise is a bit of an open-issue though. For example, where's the best fit for the "Anime Figurines Thread"? Perhaps it just stays in the General Anime root (if we go that way)?
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