2007-11-25, 23:54 | Link #1001 | |
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The most obvious metaphor here is resonance for sex. It's so crass. I mean riding somebody!WTF!!!! The couples are totally outrageous. A dirty old man and a prepubescent girl. Her dog and the geezer have the same name, for f***'s sakes!To me, personally, it's just creepy. And the gay ones! They insult the gay community as a whole. And that thing of Jin carry the girl and dog carrying the girl. I am scarred for life with such images. Does that mean that I have to see it *all* to say it's crap? I won't subject my psyche to more of such visual traumas, I like myself! |
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2007-11-26, 00:47 | Link #1002 | ||
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The most obvious metaphor for Resonance is soulmate. The partners look to be connected by an unspoken bond and the form and personality of the dragon looks to be influenced by the person it's bonded too. All the pairings work like that for the most part. |
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2007-11-26, 05:26 | Link #1003 | ||
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On a side note. Watching it for the lawlz, well, I am not sure about that. If I want to watch something for lawlz I'd go with comedy not something which was supposed to be serious but fails to the point of laughter. I am not saying Dragonaut is failure but if it continues like that it will but I was thinking in general. |
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2007-11-26, 07:31 | Link #1004 |
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Lets face it, Heroic Age started off even worse than this, it wasnt untill the 14-15th episode that that series picked it self up and started to become good. Anbd thaqt series was WAY worse than this one. So there's still a chance for it to recover
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2007-11-26, 07:48 | Link #1005 |
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though i think Heroic Age started off slow i dont think it was worse than this. I mean so far all we have watched is Jin chase Toa around only to be captured escape then be recaptured the chase her again. The only real information that we have gained is the fact that Toa was responsible was the shuttle accident but all of us guessed that a long time ago. I do find the show interesting but lets face it the plot is moving slower than an elderly person playing cricket. The one thing i am finding interesting at this point is that Toa called Thanatos mother and said she will bring everyone back that sparked my interest.
As for Kazuki well he gets worse every episode and has become nothing but an annoyance at this point unable to perceive and deal with events around him he only has is anger and jealousy now its sad. I hope he takes a good look at him self critizing Jin by saying you have changed after the shuttle accident. NO SHIT i just lost my entire family and the public thinks its my fathers fault sorry if im not all buddy buddy and want to slap hands.
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2007-11-26, 08:36 | Link #1006 | |
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2007-11-26, 10:12 | Link #1007 | ||
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And i bet there's a lot of stuff thats impossible for you thats possible for others. Speaking japanese is impossible for me but others can. So is physics and chemistry, yet others are able to use and understand it. Just because something is improbable dosent mean it's impossible. We're talking science fiction here, not science fact. 5th element, Blade Runner, Star Trek, Star Wars and Aliens are all improbable when we look at things from the current scientific stand point, but it dosent mean they're impossible. I serieously don't understand the hang ups over this, it's an anime for crying out loud. If it was a documentary or something i could understand, but getting all bent out of shape of lack of realism in an anime is just plain nuts. Quote:
I'm not saying Dragonaut is going to be better or worse, just saying it has the potential to do a HA, bad slow start, better middle and awesome end. I mean, we're still watching Dragonaut, a lot of people gave up with HA after the 5/6th episode and then picked it up again much later. |
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2007-11-26, 12:58 | Link #1008 |
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To me the science fiction aspect just seems to be a stylistic choice more than anything else - the team wanted a futuristic/techy atmosphere to the series, perhaps in order to have a unique twist on the concept of dragons, and then they just try to accommodate that vision. So while yes, certain aspects do require a large suspension of disbelief, sometimes bordering on science = magic, it's just a backdrop to carry the theme.
Which would be, judging from the most recent episode, that of Fate/Destiny, and going against it. We already have three instances of this: 1. Toa and her mission (fate?) from Mother versus her feelings toward Jin 2. Gio and his instinctive need to protect Toa 3. The other dragons (notably Howling Star), and their purpose in the ISDA It's hard to say at this point whether Toa really has any romantic feelings towards Jin, or if it's just guilt from having killed his family. That, combined with "Mother's" reminder of her mission, provides at least some explanation of her unstable push/pull behavior towards Jin. Can't say I'm exactly happy with it, but we can hope it gets portrayed a little better as it goes on. Also, Hakuryu_Hikaru - you seriously must have some free time to not only view a thread to a series you don't follow, but then watch random episodes out of context to support your trolling. I'm not following Blue Drop; I'm sure it's a fine series, and I might catch it as a batch torrent later on. But if I were going to participate in the discussion, I'd have the decency to be caught up on it before opening my mouth (or at the least, prefixing my opinions with "As of Episode XX"). It just may be a testament to how much you like Blue Drop - a quick viewing of your posting history shows you only following these two threads. Based on this, the only rationale I can think of is that since Gonzo is involved in both shows, you feel BD is having some of its potential dragged down by Dragonaut. Which is also ridiculous, as Gonzo certainly has the manpower to handle more than one show at a time. Honestly I almost prefer all the "OMG BOOBZ" posts to yours - with the former, I can just roll my eyes, while with the latter, I'm actually genuinely annoyed. Anyways, not much more to say on this matter, as I'd like to keep the thread on-topic. |
2007-11-26, 13:48 | Link #1009 |
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One character related issue I had with the latest episode was the "deal" struck between Jin and Kazuki.
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2007-11-26, 19:08 | Link #1010 |
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I could care less about the "science" of the show but the plot is just getting stupid now. The big bombshell secret had no impact because gee golly, we have nothing to care about between any of these characters (not to mention it was obvious from the first episode). Yeah it's only episode 8, but if this is how it's going to be for the rest of the show...bleh. Everything is so contrived at this point it's hard to feel anything but indifference. I couldn't even get excited about Gio once again being a badass. Sigh.
I hate to say it but I think the only character who's actually changed since the show started is Kazuki and he's gone from lame to very lame.
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2007-11-26, 21:56 | Link #1012 |
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I'm more interested if Jin and Toa did some kind of natural resonance seeing that:
A - After Jin is taken in from the crash, the doctor notices a resonance (but exactly what kind is unknown) B - Toa names herself after seeing distorted text on Ai's bracelet C - Despite her guilt towards killing Jin's family, she seems genuinely connected to Jin, mostly in a lover's way since the series will definitely go that route D - Jin is the only person that can hear Toa's "song" which proves they have a unique connection other then their tragic meeting at the crash. Of course, further questions need answering. Why is the series subtitled with Resonance - it's obviously important and is probably something these dragons require in order to exist. Toa and Jin would be a natural or "true" resonance - which has nothing to do with riding Toa so far (keep your dirty thoughts to yourselves!). Toa some how has the power to give Earth-Born dragons free will, at least before they're actually "born". So far the general theory seems to be that these so called dragons are sent to other planets so they can resonance with the creatures on them and...come back home? That's obviously the big question, but so far we haven't seen any indication that the dragons were sent to earth to "conquer" it and that maybe the ISDA is jumping to conclusions about an actual threat being involved. Resonance however seems to be required if that dragons want to take on human form, whether it be Toa or the Earth-Borns. More then likely, the first half of the season will be called Resonance with the second half having a new name. I'm only making this theory because of Vandread though, so don't quote me on it. But if this is true, you can probably guess that the resonance side of the series will deal with that issue over anything else.
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2007-11-27, 02:53 | Link #1014 |
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Don't know if this is the appropiate place to post this. But if anyone is bored could they make me a Toa Avie? I'd really appreciate it!
Dragonaut episode. 1 Time Frame: 21:38 - 21:40 or 21:55 - 21:58 (Basicly where Toa is smiling, you can do whichever you think is easier) Size: 100X100 Extra: Loop and border please. Thank you very much!
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2007-11-27, 07:34 | Link #1017 | |
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Yes, the resonance is a physical bond, but i also think it's a sort of spiritual one aswell. Hence Jin being able to hear Toa's song from the moon. But it's definatly not a metaphore, not sure it'd be tentacle rape either, from the looks of episode one it's tentacle sex, he was completely willing and eager for it. Just a thought though, Kazuki is gay!!! he had tentacle sex with Gio >.< That would explain his emo factor going through the roof over him and Jin, it's not so much 'you stole my dragon' as in 'you stole me lover' ROFLMAO |
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2007-11-27, 12:04 | Link #1019 | ||
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But really, it is a metaphor or, at the very least, an allusion to a spirital connection. We know the pairs are physically bonded but we also know that they seem to share a deep emotional bond as well. That has to count for something. |
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