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Ikaku is a dumb shit, because if he wants to keep living to fight stronger opponents then at some point he will have to use his bankai and someone will see it. His fear of getting out from Kenpachi's skirt is pissing me off!
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2008-09-25, 00:16 | Link #42 |
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People are seriosuly under estimating Koma here .. who says he couldnt pwnd Po with his shikai alone.
Po isnt an Espada he is a fraccion in the other case of Fraccion Vs Captain , the fraccion got one shot ted i.e. Tesla . You can always say Koma isnt in the league of Kenpachi or Po is a lot stronger than Tesla . Lets start with Koma he isnt Kenpachi but he is a Captain maybe not one shot but two three shots . Regarding Po being a stronger fraccion Koma's shikai is pretty awesome . http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/5885/13912rr7.jpg
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2008-09-25, 02:57 | Link #45 | |
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2008-09-25, 03:19 | Link #46 | |
Yoruichi Biased! ^_^
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But, for some reason I have this image in my head of Halibel rolling her eyes at Barragan and going "You're such a noob. See, this is why Aizen didn't put you in charge. Let my girls handle this," and then sending out her Fraccion. |
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2008-09-25, 03:26 | Link #47 | |
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2008-09-25, 07:34 | Link #49 |
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Moving on, I want to see Halibel appear out of nowhere or Stark and just pwn all the people there and leave Komamura barely standing, before attempting to destroy a tower only for the swing of her arm to be stopped by Yoruichi so it can be the cat fight of the century!
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2008-09-25, 09:09 | Link #50 |
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If you go back and watch it again, Tousen and Koma both used shikai attacks against Kenpachi before they used their bankai's on him. Tousen called out the name of his attack but Koma is shown releasing and using some sort of attack that shakes up the area they are at (assumed to be his shikai attack).
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2008-09-25, 09:47 | Link #51 |
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Damn right. Komamura, a CAPTAIN should NOT have had to use BANKAI on a freaking Fraccion.
Then again, this is a fraccion of one of the top three Espada, so i suppose it's not bad. This might actually be a good thing!! See, cos if it takes a Captain to beat the fraccion, then it means that Kubo isn't going to make the Soul Soc. party run through the top three espada. I just realized that the reason everyone is disappointed in Komamura having to use Bankai on a fraccion, is because we're so accustomed to the Espada being wipeouts, we've already estimated them to be severely weak, and all of us have already established that Soul Soc. is going to bust through the Espada. [i]BUT WHAT IF WE'RE WRONG??!!![/B] For once, it's just dawned on m that Kubo might actually setting up a real, dramatic, proper villain fight, with enemies that can't be beaten easily!!. What if the Soul Soc. faction is gonna lose...??? See, if it takes a Bankai to kill a fraccion, what if the level of the espada is simply above that of Soul Society?? What if Oda finally got it RIGHT??? WOW!! So COOL!!! A REAL villain fight!!! Where the villains are able to hold their own, and live up to the hyped up reputation they have!!! The bleach battle we've been waiting for!! And the introduction of the Vaizards will be to clean up the mess that Soul Society left!!! Soul Sooiety WILL LOSE!!! COOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!! So we'll finally get to see the Vaizrds and ... omg...SHINJI!!!!!!!!! Imagine SHINJI IN BANKAI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 sigh... Well, here's to hoping that the espada are actually super-villain class level... And now that I think of it, if the espada are really that good, then it means that Aizen really IS gonna be unbeatable in this arc! Wow, finally a villain that the protagonists in bleach actually cannot beat with a little hard work.
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2008-09-25, 10:21 | Link #52 |
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Isn't this pretty much what everyone has been thinking all along? We all know the top 4 espada are super strong and most likely going to be shown as Vasto Lorde's. I'm not sure why this is so shocking.... I will kind of be disappointed if the Vaizards bail out SS though because they all seemed quite weak for captains and vice-captains before going Vaizard. I would still hope the top SS captains are on par with them or stronger. |
2008-09-25, 10:55 | Link #53 | |
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Holypanl already raised the points you have adressed here : http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...2&postcount=42
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To be even more clear reread chapter 139
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2008-09-25, 13:55 | Link #54 | |
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Anyway, GB is right about Komamura's shikai...I mentioned in the previous chapter's thread that shikai or bankai, Komamura's power is the same; Only difference is that shikai spawns a giant floating disembodied part while bankai spawns a full-bodied giant...The difference in power levels of the releases are probably like with a real person; Imagine the difference of simply punching someone using only your arm, and then punching someone by using the force of your upper torso to bolster the force exerted by your arm...That's probably why Komamura went bankai, to deliver a more efficient attack against Po...
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2008-09-25, 15:21 | Link #55 | |
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Remember, Toushiro said that: "If there currently exist even ten Vasto Lordes, Soul Society is Doomed" (ch 197, p17. Read the whole chapter for the whole explanation) This is obviously a foreshadow to at least ten VERY POWERFUL enemies. So with the way Grimmjow went down, and how Ulquiorra is obviously going to suffer a shameful defeat, and the other espada were crushed like nothing, we had pretty much come to see them as being ...reasonably weak. With the advent of this new development where we find that a captain needs Bankai to defeat a Fraccion, it becomes possible to assume that all the other espada who were from 6 down were not Vasto Lordes. This means: Nnoitra was a play at showing how strong the Vasto Lordes are, seeing as even Kenpachi found it difficult just to cut Nnoitra in the beginning. If that really is the case, then Soul Society IS doomed. If kenpachi couldn't even cut no. 5, then...Try to imagine a weak captain like...err...say Komamura...against the top three... This is gonna be awesome. If oda plays his cards right, it will play ot to be the best fight ever in bleach. If Yamamoto is forced to join in the fight, and then midway, imagine if Aizen is released... So that means Soul Soc's Cards are on the table. We'd have Soi Fon, Hitsugaya, Yamamoto, Kira (whom I have MUCH hope for), Shunsui and Ukitake (we all know they are strong), all taxed out by enemies they can't even CUT, and then POP...out comes AIZEN, Tousen, and GIN. Just...wow... But it's pretty unlikely, anyway, and me stating it is a jynx... But I HOPE...
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I think you are misinterpreting the foreshadowing. I don't think that means we will actually see 10 Vasto Lorde's (maybe though). I think that statement was just meant to explain how powerful they are. If there do end up being 10 Vasto Lorde, then everything is probably doomed as they have already said! Quote:
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I'm not sure how the rest of this will play out and when the Vaizards step in. Who knows what will happen when Yami reappears (stronger?), Wonderweiss shows up (potential new VL?), and Urahara and Yoruichi, etc all get in the mix. There are still many things that can happen and questions to be answered. Will Gin or Tousen betray Aizen? Will Isshin get involved? All I know is there should be a lot happening before the end is in sight!!! Last edited by TeNMaN; 2008-09-26 at 11:40. |
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2008-09-26, 02:08 | Link #59 |
Yoruichi Biased! ^_^
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Either Barragan himself will fight, or Stark or Halibel will send in their Fraccion. That seems like it would be the most likely scenario unless Kubo actually goes back to the Ichigo v. Ulquiorra fight.
But also, IMO, if Barragan is really going to be matched up against Yama-jii as most people suppose, I don't think he will be next. If Yamamoto even fights, I'm sure it will be saved for one of the last fights. |
2008-09-26, 02:33 | Link #60 |
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Thank god.Guess all captains show'd off enough and enough arrancar went down for now by cool words and attacks.I really hope we can catch a glimpse of Stark now.Im waiting for him to move since last christmas damn it.The old guy looks he is the first since he took the command.Yet still I hope Stark is the second no
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