Doki Doki! Precure

[YourIdeas]

Originally Posted by elior

so from what i seen so far it seems so it seems few of the battles in doki doki will be based on strategy instead of shooting thier attacks right away

The battles are a bit gimmicky, but at least it's better than Smile's stale "get beat, make friendship speech, launch the giant fucking lazer" formula.

[sirtao]

I'm still waiting for the reveal Joe Okada is actually Joker from Smile, trolling everybody everywhere forever



Joe Okada->Joker da!

[Guido]

I think Mamoru Miyano would have been a better choice for Joe rather than Takahiro Sakurai, although there are more interesting and fitting VA to take into account other peoples' preferences.

[ujiuji]

Originally Posted by Guido

Hope this serves as a proper analogy:

Rika is to Yomi while Mana is to Mato, and Makoto is to Yuu.

Although I don't think TOEI is going to troll us with some severe personality or emotional stuff on Rika, surely those pics from above are enough to troll me.

Originally Posted by Midonin

Spoiler for Ondul! Precure 09 - Obake va Akadyan:

If a magical girl comes from another world, she still has to go to school. That goes for Fate, that goes for Reirei, and it goes for Makopi too. Because she's transferring in next week. The love triangle that exists entirely in my head becomes canon! Sort of!

I do wish you'd mention which show characters are from when making comparisons. Not everyone has seen the same shows and some of those names are too common to narrow it down much. If you just write "characters a, b, & c from show x" I can at least go and look up show x and get an idea of what you mean. I might even be intrigued enough to watch show x!

I don't want to pick on posters whose thoughts I enjoy reading, but I've noticed this habit of referring to characters from other series without naming that series has become more common of late. To give an idea of the problems this can cause; the only Reirei I can think of off hand is the eponymous heroine of a soft-core hentai series from the 1990s. I doubt she's the character you meant. Or maybe she is!

[Midonin]

Originally Posted by ujiuji

I doubt she's the character you meant. Or maybe she is!

My fault. "Reirei" is my nickname for Vividred Operation's Rei Kuroki. And Fate is from Nanoha. Both in the magical girl genre.

[ujiuji]

That's okay, it's just a pet peeve of mine. The amusing thing is the other Reirei could, from what I can make out, be referred to as a magical girl of sorts. I haven't seen it, don't know if she ever went to school, so I really did have some doubts.

[Guido]

Originally Posted by ujiuji

I do wish you'd mention which show characters are from when making comparisons. Not everyone has seen the same shows and some of those names are too common to narrow it down much. If you just write "characters a, b, & c from show x" I can at least go and look up show x and get an idea of what you mean. I might even be intrigued enough to watch show x!

I offer my apologies for causing you too much confusion.

The characters that I mentioned- Yuu, Mato, and Yomi - come from Black Rock Shooter, the anime.

[ujiuji]

Originally Posted by Guido

I offer my apologies for causing you too much confusion.

The characters that I mentioned- Yuu, Mato, and Yomi - come from Black Rock Shooter, the anime.

Thanks, I shall investigate.

[Liddo-kun]

Originally Posted by 4Tran

I think that this is a pretty good explanation for why you wouldn't want to make a baby a central part of a story.

I have the same opinion. Well, but nothing can be done about what the scriptwriters want.
Anyway, I think it's safe to assume that not every episode would be about babysitting.

[4Tran]

From the best episode of Dokidoki last week, we get one of the worst episodes this week. It's a pretty typical baby gets on the loose and causes chaos story, and these stories tend to be terrible. Younger children tend to like this kind of show/episode, but I don't think that it offers very much for older viewers. If it had let the characters interact in unfamiliar and novel ways, then it would have been something, but this outing doesn't offer any of that.

- Ai is a terrible character in large doses.

- Joe is a pretty terrible character as well. He wouldn't be so bad if the Cures actually asked him questions, but without that, he's just a source of frustration (and poor writing).

- They did have a couple of characters who would have been far better at taking care of Ai. Dabi and the butler would have done a much better job than the (lesser) fairies. So of course, they don't end up doing anything this episode.


I sure hope that this episode isn't going to be a sign of things to come.

[YourIdeas]

Originally Posted by 4Tran

- They did have a couple of characters who would have been far better at taking care of Ai. Dabi and the butler would have done a much better job than the (lesser) fairies. So of course, they don't end up doing anything this episode.

I thought of this as well (for Sebastian anyways, Dabi's too busy being a manager to take care of Ai) but then I remembered that she needs her food, bed, etc. from the Lovies, which I'm guessing is a Precure-only settable item.

Also, I really don't think Ai is that bad, though I admit that Joe's action this episode was just strange writing to set up this episode's plot.

[Guido]

Originally Posted by 4Tran

From the best episode of Dokidoki last week, we get one of the worst episodes this week. It's a pretty typical baby gets on the loose and causes chaos story, and these stories tend to be terrible. Younger children tend to like this kind of show/episode, but I don't think that it offers very much for older viewers. If it had let the characters interact in unfamiliar and novel ways, then it would have been something, but this outing doesn't offer any of that.

- Ai is a terrible character in large doses.

- Joe is a pretty terrible character as well. He wouldn't be so bad if the Cures actually asked him questions, but without that, he's just a source of frustration (and poor writing).

- They did have a couple of characters who would have been far better at taking care of Ai. Dabi and the butler would have done a much better job than the (lesser) fairies. So of course, they don't end up doing anything this episode.


I sure hope that this episode isn't going to be a sign of things to come.

It's too early to comment anything positive on Joe. So, for the time being, he's still not at the same league to Kaoru from Fresh; at least, the latter baked doughnuts to make happy the girls, and his explored past was quite interesting.

To me the worst kind of episode in any of TOEI's magical-girl shows are the type when one of the girls is offered a chance to take on a scholarship, making a tour, or doing some business overseas and away from home and getting anxious at the potential possibility of a break-up and not being together with the other girls anymore.
Honestly, the plot in those kinds of episode is not only campy but an über waste, because at the end, the girl in question chooses not to go and decline that opportunity. Instead, she stays at home with the rest of the team.
Now, I'm not complaining, because the girl declines to take on an offer that could potentially boost her personal career or her personal life. But, because I already know right from the start, that the particular girl is loyal to her other friends and will stay with them forever; those kinds of episodes are too much ado about nothing.

As for other characters taking care of Ai, well that's not going to happen due to merchandising purposes. It serves for a cute and moé advertising showing Ai and the girls nursing baby Ai, so that the children watching this anime will buy more toys and paraphernalia related to this season, and thus increasing sales for BANDAI.

[elior]

Originally Posted by 4Tran

From the best episode of Dokidoki last week, we get one of the worst episodes this week. It's a pretty typical baby gets on the loose and causes chaos story, and these stories tend to be terrible. Younger children tend to like this kind of show/episode, but I don't think that it offers very much for older viewers. If it had let the characters interact in unfamiliar and novel ways, then it would have been something, but this outing doesn't offer any of that.

- Ai is a terrible character in large doses.

- Joe is a pretty terrible character as well. He wouldn't be so bad if the Cures actually asked him questions, but without that, he's just a source of frustration (and poor writing).

- They did have a couple of characters who would have been far better at taking care of Ai. Dabi and the butler would have done a much better job than the (lesser) fairies. So of course, they don't end up doing anything this episode.


I sure hope that this episode isn't going to be a sign of things to come.

actully the girls did asked joe questions about him but he avoided give any information and escape all the time

[4Tran]

Originally Posted by YourIdeas

I thought of this as well (for Sebastian anyways, Dabi's too busy being a manager to take care of Ai) but then I remembered that she needs her food, bed, etc. from the Lovies, which I'm guessing is a Precure-only settable item.

The non-story reasons are way more important.

Originally Posted by YourIdeas

Also, I really don't think Ai is that bad, though I admit that Joe's action this episode was just strange writing to set up this episode's plot.

So far, Joe exists as a way for Ai to interact with the Cures without having her stay with Mana. It's an alternative to the Sailor Moon-style brainwashing of Usagi's family.

Originally Posted by Guido

To me the worst kind of episode in any of TOEI's magical-girl shows are the type when one of the girls is offered a chance to take on a scholarship, making a tour, or doing some business overseas and away from home and getting anxious at the potential possibility of a break-up and not being together with the other girls anymore.
Honestly, the plot in those kinds of episode is not only campy but an über waste, because at the end, the girl in question chooses not to go and decline that opportunity. Instead, she stays at home with the rest of the team.
Now, I'm not complaining, because the girl declines to take on an offer that could potentially boost her personal career or her personal life. But, because I already know right from the start, that the particular girl is loyal to her other friends and will stay with them forever; those kinds of episodes are too much ado about nothing.

I don't really mind that story when it's used to shine on a never before seen facet of a character, and how their friends react to this new uncertainty. It's not really meant to generate a whole lot of tension by itself. Generally, the story works best if the character in question has an established reason for going abroad, but it can still be effective otherwise (see Smile Precure 43).

Originally Posted by elior

actully the girls did asked joe questions about him but he avoided give any information and escape all the time

Joe's non-answers are part and parcel of why he's such a frustrating character. In a good episode, his faults can be overlooked, but it gets really grating in bad episodes.

[Liddo-kun]

Episode 9:

Spoiler:

Fun enough episode with plenty of running around. I do understand that there should be a babysitting episode, since there's a baby. Though I do hope episodes like this one.. don't become the common trend for the whole year of this precure series. If it does, then it's time for me to stop watching this anime.

They did have an interesting monster of the week battle. Will give this series a chance up to the 24th or 25th episode.

[Hiroshi Amearai]

It seems we will get a new character in July

Spoiler:

[Midonin]

I'm getting a Miracle Berthier crossed with a MagiStick vibe from those new weapons. What Makopi's doing is straight up MagiYellow.

[4Tran]

Originally Posted by Midonin

I'm getting a Miracle Berthier crossed with a MagiStick vibe from those new weapons.

One looks like the bottom half of this:



and the other looks like this:

[elior]

Originally Posted by 4Tran

One looks like the bottom half of this:



and the other looks like this:

the first one is the new weapon we will see in episode 11

[Guido]

Originally Posted by 4Tran

One looks like the bottom half of this:



and the other looks like this:

Why do I get Sailor Moon vibes from watching both?