2009-08-22, 06:46 | Link #361 |
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Yeah, but it clarifies Kotonoha isn't innocent either. As I said revenge isn't a good option. And being mean to somone who hurt you is somehow close to the revenge.
And Kotonoha has her troubles brought on herself like Sekai. And I think it isn't make smaller the volume of things happened to her. Same with Sekai. Was Kotonoha ever pregnant? Liked she someone for more than a year? Achieved she the level of inimancy with Makot that Sekai? I think the answer is no. And those 3 shows how much more painfull to Sekai Makoto's cruel attitude. If after all that he acts like he did he's certainly a jerk, not a simple coward like he was until ep 7-8. |
2009-08-22, 11:22 | Link #362 |
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See, that's why I can't have Kotonoha as this innocent, pure rosebud... she was pretty nasty, in that final day. "She thought Sekai wasn't pregnant"? Why was that not even brought up until she opened her up, then? If I remember correctly - and I think I do - she wanted her to have an abortion, of all things.
I mean, honestly, we'll never agree, as I don't think her "mistreat" at the early stages of the series was ever anything to be so worked up about - she had no reason to lose her life over a cheating boyfriend, people don't usually break over these kinds of things - and I do not think she was justified in her behavior towards Sekai, before she committed her crime.
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And because her snapping was due in big part to other's nastiness. It's all good and well to say "revenge is a bad answer", but as true it is in practical terms, it doesn't mean it's not an understandable reaction, it gives quite a bit of excuse (as long as it's not blown out of proportion, and she admittedly is quite a debatale case) nor does it diminish how nasty others actions were toward here. Quote:
But I think she's totally and entirely justified in her being nasty to Sekai, though. If you treat badly someone, you've no right to complain when these persons treat you badly back. I see it as acceptable comeuppance. If I spit on someone out of the blue, I don't think I could complain if I get a punch in the face - I asked for it, I got it. Seeing your reasoning, I think that's probably a point where we'll have to agree to disagree. |
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In this case, let's say you made someone laugh and they spit whatever beverage they were drinking on you, would you spit back at him? Or retaliate in someway?
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It may be "better" to act like this, but it doesn't necessarily mean it's "bad" to act, well, "less purely". I do tend to prefer backlash, because I don't like people getting away with being mean/bad/etc., and I consider that "bad should be punished, good should be rewarded", but it doesn't mean I don't understand the other concept. |
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Like I said: Relax, I was merely using an example similar to yours. Because you made it sound like Sekai had no reasons to make her decisions regarding Kotonoha. It also made it look like Sekai was purposely callous towards her in which I really don't believe is the case.
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2009-08-22, 14:53 | Link #368 |
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Well, I would, and it's why I say we have different core value (or, at least, differently weighted).
I understand what you're trying to say, but I don't consider it worthy excuses - I see the effort required to clear things up is disproportionately small compared to the hurt it cause in others to excuse cheating in any way. |
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From MyAnimeLife. Anyway, about episode eleven... was that twenty or so different names in the Contacts list for Makoto's cell phone? The sub I used didn't have any translations for that part, so I don't know what was going on there, or if that was even the list of contacts to begin with. I know that Makoto's count was at least six (Sekai, Otome, Hikari, three girls) and possibly eight (Assuming that he did it with Setsuna and Kotonoha after getting back together), but it would be... something else if there's also a dozen random, unseen girls involved. Last edited by Dr. Casey; 2009-10-27 at 14:17. |
2009-10-28, 12:17 | Link #374 |
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Actually without Kotonoha Sekai gets makoto and the deal is done.
And without Sekai Kotonoha would probably never hook up with Makoto. But I thought it's common knwonledge... AnywaysEven if Makoto do hook up with Kotonoha somehow(like he confesses in the last year mid-term or something like that) I doubt it can live for long. And I think Otome would make her move much faster than that. |
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Also, I don't believe in "an eye for an eye" because that would usually cause a bad situation to become worse. On top of that, Kotonoha ruined her life by killing Sekai (who also ruined her life.)
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