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Jintor · 2008-03-13, 06:31

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Originally Posted by JediNight

Itsuki fits the least well IMHO -- even though the design looks nice, I don't really see any glimmer of resemblance to the original like the others, and of course they went with the lesbian personality for the lulz.

's the odd thing about Itsuki. The problem is that his personality in-show is in any case more or less "Let Suzumiya do what she wants, and just keep the fox eyes and smile". To be perfectly honest, Itsuki's a fairly bland character in that respect. I can definitely see a near visual look with almost all the fanart, at least with the face - Oh, gods, the face - and the basic personality is still there. Although it's been overshadowed by LOL LESBIANS.

Imho the character that visually is least similar to the original is, to be honest, Kyon-ko. It's a really good thing they made her keep her cardigan - not quite sure how, but it definitely lends a deeper sense of the basic Kyon personality to her.

panzerfan · 2008-03-13, 06:33

First of all, bravo to Kang Seung Jae.

Ok. After the flawless victory with Kang Seung Jae, here's a tribute on my part.

Spoiler for So Kyon, how does doing the Kawasumi Mai pose feel like?:

Jintor · 2008-03-13, 06:33

(In regards to that Korean jackpot translation)

Hmmm. Forehead moe.

/me ponders.

Kang Seung Jae · 2008-03-13, 06:34

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Originally Posted by Jintor

Hmmm. Forehead moe.

/me ponders.

About our story?

JediNight · 2008-03-13, 06:41

Jintor: Hmm... well I definitely feel that Kyonko is actually really good. But I can see your point about Itsuki -- having Itsuko go along with whatever Haruhi has in mind fits the character, and male Haruhi would probably find it "hot" ... knowing that Kyonko isn't "that way". Whereas in the original story a perceived romantic interest to Kyon other than Haruhi herself set off bad "end the world" vibes ^_^;;

I wonder though -- why was the name Haruki settled upon anyways? Haruhi is a gender-neutral name to begin with so using it would be fine, and I've never heard the name Haruki used before in any anime/manga or any credits or other Japanese names I've seen anywhere.

Onizuka-GTO · 2008-03-13, 06:42

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Originally Posted by panzerfan

First of all, bravo to Kang Seung Jae.

Ok. After the flawless victory with Kang Seung Jae, here's a tribute on my part.

Spoiler for So Kyon, how does doing the Kawasumi Mai pose feel like?:

kyon-chan playing with a Wii?

full of WIN!

Kang Seung Jae · 2008-03-13, 06:47

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Originally Posted by JediNight

I wonder though -- why was the name Haruki settled upon anyways? Haruhi is a gender-neutral name to begin with so using it would be fine, and I've never heard the name Haruki used before in any anime/manga or any credits or other Japanese names I've seen anywhere.

Because it sounds more "manly."

Although one possible kanji combination (春氣) is gender-neutral.

I'm hungary. Please give this poor guy a cookie

Roger Rambo · 2008-03-13, 06:49

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Originally Posted by dreamoflife

Well, she really regards everyone as potatoes, at least at first.

But yeah, that's sort of what I was getting at... like "I don't care, so they won't care, and no one will care" sort of thing. Haruhi's not too great at people. Her thought process seems to be "looking sexy = attention", not "looking sexy = I get guys" like most other girls would expect.

Sorta like she hasn't mentally attached sex appeal, with relationships?

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Originally Posted by Kang Seung Jae

All finished:

Spoiler for Enjoy!:

A warning: DO NOT QUOTE THE SPOILER!

My comment:

Spoiler:

While people are writing this scene, I think that Haruki should keep holding onto Kyonko's hand, and pull her to a stop. It just seems like something he'd do considering how physical were making him with Kyonko.

Also regarding the end...

Spoiler for spoiler:

JediNight · 2008-03-13, 06:50

I'd say for my own character analysis of what Kyonko would be like, and fitting to the accepted design:

As I read somewhere earlier, Kyonko would be no-nonsense with most things in life: Not terribly concerned with high fashion, doesn't get involved in social cliques at school and stupid gossip chatter, or stand out in any major way. If 5 was average on looks, she would rate something like a 6-7... nothing spectacular but not ugly and she has her own charm about her if you care to get to know her, etc.

Probably mildly on the tsundere side, if only slightly. She tags along on Haruhi's crazy ideas and club, but not entirely sure why. Doesn't care for Haruhi's ecchi ideas, but can be bullied into going along with them by Haruhi. Just don't ask her to act the part like Itsuko likes doing. Eventually resigns herself to the situation, albeit slightly embarassed, but not super self-conscious about it like normal Asahina would.

I'll stop now as I'm losing my train of thought, what with it being 7am here I should sleep lol...

EDIT PS: It's just that headbands on a guy, especially yellow ones, would be incredibly girly. It's just hard to get anything iconic like a hair accessory to work for a male character, especially bright yellow. And it totally doesn't match the dark-green blazer the guys wear

setsuna89 · 2008-03-13, 07:14

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Originally Posted by Kang Seung Jae

All finished:

Spoiler for Enjoy!:

A warning: DO NOT QUOTE THE SPOILER!

you have been elevated to legendary status. that was pure gold right there.

also, i now cast my vote for swept back hair. just looks right.

Kang Seung Jae · 2008-03-13, 07:17

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Originally Posted by Jintor

(In regards to that Korean jackpot translation)

Korean jackpot?

I was talking about the fact that there are Korean translations of the novels being published, not the translations I did....

Jintor · 2008-03-13, 07:27

Well, you did say you hit the jackpot...

I dunno. I still prefer headphones, but as Kaisos has said, there's never any real mention of Haruhi's headband in the novel... so, nyeh. This could still go either way.

Kang Seung Jae · 2008-03-13, 07:28

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Originally Posted by Jintor

Well, you did say you hit the jackpot...

Yes, but Korea had nothing to do with that particular project of mine

panzerfan · 2008-03-13, 07:30

This is a link to the video version of what Kang Seung Jae posted in English

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm2620222

Roger Rambo · 2008-03-13, 07:32

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Originally Posted by Jintor

Well, you did say you hit the jackpot...

I dunno. I still prefer headphones, but as Kaisos has said, there's never any real mention of Haruhi's headband in the novel... so, nyeh. This could still go either way.

She doesn't wear a head band in the novel. She wears ribbons. A dude doesn't exactly look macho with ribbons, we need something else.

Headbands seem like a better choice than head phones, considering we can go for the pulled back hair. This like a much more believable moe for Kyonko to have than spikes. I say we stick with headbands, and hair pulled back moe.

Onizuka-GTO · 2008-03-13, 07:37

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Originally Posted by Kang Seung Jae

Because it sounds more "manly."

Although one possible kanji combination (春氣) is gender-neutral.

I'm hungary. Please give this poor guy a cookie

I've been baffled by this as well, I mean why call Kyon.....kyon-ko?

i mean...kyon isa gender neutral as well.

besides i like the fact tht you can still call them the same names, but obviously the gender specific antics are clear as day!

it's almost like Tanigawa made it specifically so that the names of the main characters are gender neutral

Kang Seung Jae · 2008-03-13, 07:40

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Originally Posted by Onizuka-GTO

I've been baffled by this as well, I mean why call Kyon.....kyon-ko?

i mean...kyon isa gender neutral as well.

Because it's supposed to be "cute" and "girlish" by having a "ko (子)" at the end of a name.

Sterling01 · 2008-03-13, 07:54

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Originally Posted by Onizuka-GTO

I've been baffled by this as well, I mean why call Kyon.....kyon-ko?

Because all male characters turned female need a "Ko" to sound cuter

DannyCat · 2008-03-13, 07:59

In-story, having her named "Kyon" is fine. But キョン子 is what all the fanartists are using to differentiate her from the original.

Jintor · 2008-03-13, 08:03

The main reason for the changed names is differentiation. If I use Haruhi as opposed to Haruki, you immediately know who I'm talking about. Same with Kyon and Kyonko.

Basically, it's for ease of use and understanding.

2008-03-13, 06:33	Link #1762
panzerfan Name means little... Graphic Designer Join Date: Dec 2004	First of all, bravo to Kang Seung Jae. Ok. After the flawless victory with Kang Seung Jae, here's a tribute on my part. Spoiler for So Kyon, how does doing the Kawasumi Mai pose feel like?: __________________ It would be enough for the depressing things in life to only exist in reality. It is because that I think the birth of a story... is from people dreaming of a happy ending. ~Misaka Shiori

2008-03-13, 07:30	Link #1774
panzerfan Name means little... Graphic Designer Join Date: Dec 2004	This is a link to the video version of what Kang Seung Jae posted in English http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm2620222 __________________ It would be enough for the depressing things in life to only exist in reality. It is because that I think the birth of a story... is from people dreaming of a happy ending. ~Misaka Shiori

2008-03-13, 06:33	Link #1763
Jintor Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Land Down Under Age: 32	(In regards to that Korean jackpot translation) Hmmm. Forehead moe. /me ponders.

2008-03-13, 06:41	Link #1765
JediNight キズランダム Join Date: Apr 2003	Jintor: Hmm... well I definitely feel that Kyonko is actually really good. But I can see your point about Itsuki -- having Itsuko go along with whatever Haruhi has in mind fits the character, and male Haruhi would probably find it "hot" ... knowing that Kyonko isn't "that way". Whereas in the original story a perceived romantic interest to Kyon other than Haruhi herself set off bad "end the world" vibes ^_^;; I wonder though -- why was the name Haruki settled upon anyways? Haruhi is a gender-neutral name to begin with so using it would be fine, and I've never heard the name Haruki used before in any anime/manga or any credits or other Japanese names I've seen anywhere.

2008-03-13, 06:50	Link #1769
JediNight キズランダム Join Date: Apr 2003	I'd say for my own character analysis of what Kyonko would be like, and fitting to the accepted design: As I read somewhere earlier, Kyonko would be no-nonsense with most things in life: Not terribly concerned with high fashion, doesn't get involved in social cliques at school and stupid gossip chatter, or stand out in any major way. If 5 was average on looks, she would rate something like a 6-7... nothing spectacular but not ugly and she has her own charm about her if you care to get to know her, etc. Probably mildly on the tsundere side, if only slightly. She tags along on Haruhi's crazy ideas and club, but not entirely sure why. Doesn't care for Haruhi's ecchi ideas, but can be bullied into going along with them by Haruhi. Just don't ask her to act the part like Itsuko likes doing. Eventually resigns herself to the situation, albeit slightly embarassed, but not super self-conscious about it like normal Asahina would. I'll stop now as I'm losing my train of thought, what with it being 7am here I should sleep lol... EDIT PS: It's just that headbands on a guy, especially yellow ones, would be incredibly girly. It's just hard to get anything iconic like a hair accessory to work for a male character, especially bright yellow. And it totally doesn't match the dark-green blazer the guys wear

2008-03-13, 07:27	Link #1772
Jintor Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Land Down Under Age: 32	Well, you did say you hit the jackpot... I dunno. I still prefer headphones, but as Kaisos has said, there's never any real mention of Haruhi's headband in the novel... so, nyeh. This could still go either way.

2008-03-13, 07:59	Link #1779
DannyCat Currently Observing. Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Portland, OR Age: 43	In-story, having her named "Kyon" is fine. But キョン子 is what all the fanartists are using to differentiate her from the original.

2008-03-13, 08:03	Link #1780
Jintor Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Land Down Under Age: 32	The main reason for the changed names is differentiation. If I use Haruhi as opposed to Haruki, you immediately know who I'm talking about. Same with Kyon and Kyonko. Basically, it's for ease of use and understanding.