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kimchipride · 2008-07-27, 16:08

Why can't they make a Kyou x Tomoya episode.
I loved that arc :[

Tran225 · 2008-07-27, 17:56

omg... what a show best clannad episode so far.. is it only 1 episode for tomoyo? or is there more

Deadwings · 2008-07-27, 22:33

Wonderful... just wonderful... many have said this already, but i'll repeat, too short hehe
10/10

@Tran225: It's only one ep

shaolinx · 2008-07-27, 22:54

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Originally Posted by Deadwings

Wonderful... just wonderful... many have said this already, but i'll repeat, too short hehe
10/10

@Tran225: It's only one ep

Well, there could be more, we just dont know yet... But lets cuts tomoyo story here, the AS is way too depressing for me.

Taricitous · 2008-07-28, 01:34

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the AS is way too depressing for me

, ur giving me expectations!, but yea they kinda gave away the plot for the after story in the movie

Ice Block · 2008-07-28, 01:38

No, no, no...

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Originally Posted by Ice Block

the movie's got nothing on After Story. Nothing I tell ya.

This is the simplest way I can put it without spoiling anything.

Tran225 · 2008-07-28, 01:54

this episode made me like tomoyo more than the rest of the girls

Taricitous · 2008-07-28, 03:57

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Originally Posted by Ice Block

No, no, no...
This is the simplest way I can put it without spoiling anything.

lol ok, it doesnt matter i think, i realy liked Clannad so im gona watch the After Story even if its depressing etc etc

and @ Tran225, this episode was for TOMOYO that might be the reason haha, and that none of the other girls are even mentioned (except OP) in the episode

herbert · 2008-07-28, 08:17

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Originally Posted by shaolinx

Well, there could be more, we just dont know yet... But lets cuts tomoyo story here, the AS is way too depressing for me.

I second this. I remember there is a big PREVIEW written at beginning.

shaolinx · 2008-07-28, 09:25

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Originally Posted by herbert

I second this. I remember there is a big PREVIEW written at beginning.

That is true... I never thought of it that way. I was thinking the preview was for the Episode itself, but it COULD be different. Maybe Key will do something crazy and make it Tomoyo After Story for season2 after all and trick us with those fake after story trailers... Who knows, its a possibility

YoureMyHiro · 2008-07-28, 22:50

Like many others I was skeptical of this alternate version from the Clannad tv series but I feel it was well directed. They had quite a bit to cram into a short period of time but I think they organized it well considering how fast time progressed, it was gradual rather than abrupt. A definite must see if you havent already.

therationalpi · 2008-07-30, 03:46

Had a chance to watch this episode for a second time. I think it's really interesting to see the difference in Tomoya's character between this story and the main arc. Consider it for a moment. When Tomoya is with Nagisa, he seems to be very strong and willful. He has confidence that he is Nagisa's strength, which in turn gives him strength. Moreover, he takes an active role in making Nagisa's dreams a reality. Tomoya is the one who makes the last shot in the basketball game, and Tomoya is the one pushing Nagisa to do her best.

However, with Tomoyo, Tomoya is much less self-assured. People telling him that he should break up with her greatly influences him. We see no advancement in his relationship with his father. Most importantly, we never see Tomoya stand up for himself and his feelings. That said, the relationship he has with Tomoyo appears much more open and cheerful. Both members seem very comfortable with the relationship, and confident in the others person's feelings. Tomoyo seems so shocked by the breakup, in part, because it is so contradictory to the feelings that she knows Tomoya has for her. Even in the end of the episode, I don't believe that we see the level of growth in Tomoya's character that we do with Nagisa. In short, this is why Nagisa is the best partner for him.

A short way to describe it, in my opinion, is that while NagisaXTomoya has the two acting as supports for eachother, TomoyoXTomoya has Tomoya acting as a source of comfort for Tomoyo. Thus, Tomoya does not grow in the same manner that he does with Nagisa.

Stargaze · 2008-07-30, 05:29

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Originally Posted by therationalpi

A short way to describe it, in my opinion, is that while NagisaXTomoya has the two acting as supports for eachother, TomoyoXTomoya has Tomoya acting as a source of comfort for Tomoyo. Thus, Tomoya does not grow in the same manner that he does with Nagisa.

I'm incline to disagree with you. Whilst I agree with Nagisa, Tomoya and Nagisa both asts as support to each other, is saying with Tomoyo, Tomoya doesn't grow? I personally do not think so. You said that Tomoya is less self-assured, indeed, but that is after the rumours and the breakup. Tomoya still does push Tomoyo to do his best, after all, it was him who helped Tomoyo win her election in the first place. The Tomoya with Nagisa is still the same Tomoya with Tomoyo, with all those rumours flying around, I don't doubt it will have much difference even if Tomoya is with Nagisa. If his relationship with Nagisa actually affects her goal (say, drama club), I'm pretty sure the same thing will happen (that is Tomoya being all depressed and etc).

Tomoyo certainly is one of the main support for Tomoya when he is depressed, but Tomoya has clearly demonstrated growth by the end of the episode: going to school, doing work and being more independent are all initial signs of his gradual growth. Though we may not see it much in this episode, this is what I interpreted.

I'm a fan of both Nagisa and Tomoyo, so hopefully I'm not too bias

Bennyswan · 2008-07-30, 12:18

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Originally Posted by kimchipride

Why can't they make a Kyou x Tomoya episode.
I loved that arc :[

I would love to see a Tomoya x Kyou

minnadaisuki · 2008-07-30, 14:51

I even made a Tomoyo banner for my blog just to show support for this episode.

nines · 2008-07-30, 14:57

hmmm how will the AS be depressing?

Anh_Minh · 2008-07-30, 15:02

If we're wishing for stuff, I'd like a "Final Starfish User Fuko" miniseries (with a cyborg Tomoya). It looked interesting.

Proto · 2008-07-30, 19:59

Hmm... well at least the series redeemed Tomoya a little compared to his game self... which still didn't make me like him much during this arc. Personally, I was never too fond of Tomoyo's story, however that is not to say that the adaptation wasn't good. i just have some qualms with the script

All in all, it was not a bad episode, miles better than what you get for DVD extras these days

shaoron · 2008-07-31, 20:38

i hate this episode! it's blasphemy.. <_<

DanielSong39 · 2008-08-04, 21:59

+: Enjoyable episode overall; liked the chemistry between Tomoyo and Tomoya.

-: Only one episode of this? I thought it was better than the show itself...

If they do Tomoyo After, I hope they split it into two halves - 1-6 for the Tomoyo Arc in Clannad and 7-12 for Tomoyo After.

Looking forward to their wedding.

View Poll Results: Clannad - Extra Episode (Tomoyo Chapter) Rating
Perfect 10	161	54.03%
9 out of 10 : Excellent	83	27.85%
8 out of 10 : Very Good	27	9.06%
7 out of 10 : Good	13	4.36%
6 out of 10 : Average	5	1.68%
5 out of 10 : Below Average	3	1.01%
4 out of 10 : Poor	1	0.34%
3 out of 10 : Bad	1	0.34%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad	0	0%
1 out of 10 : Painful	4	1.34%
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2008-07-27, 16:08	Link #201
kimchipride Geass User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Age: 32	Why can't they make a Kyou x Tomoya episode. I loved that arc :[ __________________

2008-07-30, 03:46	Link #212
therationalpi Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: State College, PA, USA Age: 36	Had a chance to watch this episode for a second time. I think it's really interesting to see the difference in Tomoya's character between this story and the main arc. Consider it for a moment. When Tomoya is with Nagisa, he seems to be very strong and willful. He has confidence that he is Nagisa's strength, which in turn gives him strength. Moreover, he takes an active role in making Nagisa's dreams a reality. Tomoya is the one who makes the last shot in the basketball game, and Tomoya is the one pushing Nagisa to do her best. However, with Tomoyo, Tomoya is much less self-assured. People telling him that he should break up with her greatly influences him. We see no advancement in his relationship with his father. Most importantly, we never see Tomoya stand up for himself and his feelings. That said, the relationship he has with Tomoyo appears much more open and cheerful. Both members seem very comfortable with the relationship, and confident in the others person's feelings. Tomoyo seems so shocked by the breakup, in part, because it is so contradictory to the feelings that she knows Tomoya has for her. Even in the end of the episode, I don't believe that we see the level of growth in Tomoya's character that we do with Nagisa. In short, this is why Nagisa is the best partner for him. A short way to describe it, in my opinion, is that while NagisaXTomoya has the two acting as supports for eachother, TomoyoXTomoya has Tomoya acting as a source of comfort for Tomoyo. Thus, Tomoya does not grow in the same manner that he does with Nagisa. __________________ You may say that pi is irrational. However, let me point out that 355/113 is close enough to pi for most purposes. And if that is not good enough for you, then who's being irrational?

2008-07-30, 14:57	Link #216
nines I much prefer the 2d Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Frontier Age: 31	hmmm how will the AS be depressing? __________________

2008-07-30, 19:59	Link #218
Proto Knowledge is the solution Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: St. Louis, MO Age: 39	Hmm... well at least the series redeemed Tomoya a little compared to his game self... which still didn't make me like him much during this arc. Personally, I was never too fond of Tomoyo's story, however that is not to say that the adaptation wasn't good. i just have some qualms with the script All in all, it was not a bad episode, miles better than what you get for DVD extras these days __________________ How to play Japanese games in Linux

2008-07-27, 17:56	Link #202
Tran225 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 32	omg... what a show best clannad episode so far.. is it only 1 episode for tomoyo? or is there more

2008-07-27, 22:33	Link #203
Deadwings Heaven's Nightmare Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Why should you care? Age: 35	Wonderful... just wonderful... many have said this already, but i'll repeat, too short hehe 10/10 @Tran225: It's only one ep

2008-07-28, 01:54	Link #207
Tran225 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 32	this episode made me like tomoyo more than the rest of the girls

2008-07-28, 22:50	Link #211
YoureMyHiro The One Hit Wonder Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: San Jose, CA	Like many others I was skeptical of this alternate version from the Clannad tv series but I feel it was well directed. They had quite a bit to cram into a short period of time but I think they organized it well considering how fast time progressed, it was gradual rather than abrupt. A definite must see if you havent already.

2008-07-30, 14:51	Link #215
minnadaisuki Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: こころのたまご Age: 38	I even made a Tomoyo banner for my blog just to show support for this episode.

2008-07-30, 15:02	Link #217
Anh_Minh I disagree with you all. Join Date: Dec 2005	If we're wishing for stuff, I'd like a "Final Starfish User Fuko" miniseries (with a cyborg Tomoya). It looked interesting.

2008-07-31, 20:38	Link #219
shaoron AQS representative Join Date: Jul 2007	i hate this episode! it's blasphemy.. <_< __________________ I am never gonna say good bye, never run around is my body, never desert you is my blood unknown to telling lies, nor known to hurting you have rolled the rick over nine thousand times yet never gonna give you up so as I sing, UNLIMITED RICKROLL WORKS

2008-08-04, 21:59	Link #220
DanielSong39 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	+: Enjoyable episode overall; liked the chemistry between Tomoyo and Tomoya. -: Only one episode of this? I thought it was better than the show itself... If they do Tomoyo After, I hope they split it into two halves - 1-6 for the Tomoyo Arc in Clannad and 7-12 for Tomoyo After. Looking forward to their wedding.