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Old 2009-09-26, 21:17   Link #11041
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You know Kyero, It's responses like your's that trolling exists. All you do when you give responses like that is throw fuel on the fire, so you're doing the opposite of what you're intending to do. You want it to die, but instead you keep it going. If you don't like a certain subject that's being discussed, just don't comment on it. Just stay silent and eventually it will pass.

Use your head, the last thing we want is this discussion to degenerate into something typically found on 4chan or similar board.
Guys let's not raise a fire here okay? We know that it is inevitable Kurumu will end up with Mizore, he is just refusing to accept it because he sees that yuri is wrong, and I respect his POV.

Let's just move on.
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Old 2009-09-26, 21:38   Link #11042
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Guys let's not raise a fire here okay? We know that it is inevitable Kurumu will end up with Mizore, he is just refusing to accept it because he sees that yuri is wrong, and I respect his POV.

Let's just move on.
and here you are making it about 10 times worse =\

I see stupid Overexagerations wrong, not yuri...
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Old 2009-09-26, 21:44   Link #11043
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I already said it. The only two ways Kurumu and Mizore can end up, to prevent there from being angst in the ending which there should not be, is either with Tsukune in the harem, or with each other. Of course there's always the third option of having each of them find some new guy to love out of the blue, but that would just SUCK. So again, since it doesn't look like this series is going in the harem ending direction, the only other GOOD option is for the mangaka to use that kiss as a plot/character development point so they could develop feelings for each other and end up so happy together (bah bah bah baahhh)

Not to mention it'd be brave of him, since that's not something I've seen in other shounen series I've read.
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Old 2009-09-26, 21:46   Link #11044
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who cares about plot when you can have Fanservice? if they even do end up together (they wont) it will be to make yuri fans satasfied and shut up, but they wont be.. so it will faill.

Yuri/yaoi only shows up in shounen series for pure fanservice not "Hints" get that through your head.
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Old 2009-09-26, 21:48   Link #11045
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Guys let's not raise a fire here okay? We know that it is inevitable Kurumu will end up with Mizore, he is just refusing to accept it because he sees that yuri is wrong, and I respect his POV.

Let's just move on.
*Looks.... facepalms..... shakes head and walks away in silence*
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Old 2009-09-26, 22:21   Link #11046
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who cares about plot when you can have Fanservice?
That might be a valid point with, say To Love ru, but this series is far more plot driven by comparison. And it doesn't change what I said, that those two girls can only end up one of two ways, no matter how unimportant you think the plot is here.

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Yuri/yaoi only shows up in shounen series for pure fanservice not "Hints" get that through your head.
Hate to tell you, but guys and girls can be in genuine relationships with members of the same sex, not just for fanservice purposes.
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Old 2009-09-26, 22:25   Link #11047
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I already said it. The only two ways Kurumu and Mizore can end up, to prevent there from being angst in the ending which there should not be, is either with Tsukune in the harem, or with each other. Of course there's always the third option of having each of them find some new guy to love out of the blue, but that would just SUCK. So again, since it doesn't look like this series is going in the harem ending direction, the only other GOOD option is for the mangaka to use that kiss as a plot/character development point so they could develop feelings for each other and end up so happy together (bah bah bah baahhh)

Not to mention it'd be brave of him, since that's not something I've seen in other shounen series I've read.
QFT.

If ever Moka and Tsukune ends up with each other in the end. Most likely imho the 3rd option might be our end, though I guess the girls will be following the anime path, where in i.e. Tsurara married a cosplaying bishounen Sasquatch who looks better than the her old crush.

But I guess if ever 3rd option is on the works for an ending it's either Ikeda will skip it and not show what will happen which sucks right? or better a time skip it and show the girls in the future on what happened to them.

But I won't worry too much on the ending since there are many possibilities that can still happen and more baddies to be kicked and punched to know they're place.
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Old 2009-09-26, 22:48   Link #11048
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Where's the next chapter when you need it in order to get off the homosexual topic and get Kyero off the warpath?

My personal take is, it was a combo of fanservice and plot. Kyero, I'd only start worrying about things if we start going Nanoha-ish, where some want the two girls' relationship to be platonic, whereas others say it's a romantic relationship between the two... and then there's always Aoi Hana, which is also yuri. Rosario hasn't gone down those paths, so we're safe
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Old 2009-09-26, 23:01   Link #11049
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QFT.

But I guess if ever 3rd option is on the works for an ending it's either Ikeda will skip it and not show what will happen which sucks right? or better a time skip it and show the girls in the future on what happened to them.

place.
I'd like to think that Ikeda isn't so horrible a writer as to do that. As it is now, both girls are so freakin head over heels for Tsukune, but also care for each other deeply at least as friends, that having 2 new guys come out of the blue to change that would be way too jarring for the readers and irreconcilable with everything we've already read involving Kurumu and Mizore. No self-respecting writer could possibly do something like that, I'd assume.
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Old 2009-09-26, 23:11   Link #11050
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QFT.

If ever Moka and Tsukune ends up with each other in the end. Most likely imho the 3rd option might be our end, though I guess the girls will be following the anime path, where in i.e. Tsurara married a cosplaying bishounen Sasquatch who looks better than the her old crush.

But I guess if ever 3rd option is on the works for an ending it's either Ikeda will skip it and not show what will happen which sucks right? or better a time skip it and show the girls in the future on what happened to them.

But I won't worry too much on the ending since there are many possibilities that can still happen and more baddies to be kicked and punched to know they're place.
Then who would Yukari marry? Kurumu is probably attached to Gin and Mizore attached to that fairy tail guy.

P.S Whenever this comes up I have a problem switching off my MugiVision. It is too powerful!
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Old 2009-09-26, 23:37   Link #11051
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Is there actually going to be an ending where everything is tied up in a neat little bow? I thought it's a rarity when we get a manga ending like that. Concerning who ends up with who and all that jazz.

If I was Tsukune I'd keep them all. The hell with any of them getting away. Well I'd wait quite a few years for Yukari though. Make Moka number one and so forth and so on down the line...
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Old 2009-09-26, 23:46   Link #11052
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who knows, maybe the boy from Mizore's past will come back some how =\

Kurumu doesnt really have Gin, since he loves Sun...

Kurumu's rubbing her boobs in yukaris face in Johnnys avy, but doesnt make kurumu have any affection towards her besides love rivals.
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Old 2009-09-27, 00:00   Link #11053
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im getting sick of this shit even popping up... you yuri fans want ur fuckin yuri then go watch/read the damn animes that have them and talk about it on the forum for it. stop bringing it up in non-yuri ones. and youkari doesnt count because she's Bi/straight :P
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean you can just shut out everyone else with different likes on this topic.
I don't really like yaoi that much, but it someone talks about I dunno, Itsuki and Kyon yaoi from Haruhi it won't bother me that much as long as they aren't braindead about it. EDIT: Maybe that's a bad example, as in canon they aren't really attracted to each other, it's just a series joke. But you get the point.

And there are lesbian couplings even in non all girl love series, like Card Captor Sakura with Tomoyo and her mother, Yubisaki milk tea with Hidari's friend, Michiru and Haruka from Sailor Moon, Yasuna from Kashimashi. They aren't common at all, but they do exist.
And I still find that the bi is okay but lesbian is not is self serving and hypocrisy but whatever.
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Old 2009-09-27, 00:12   Link #11054
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Just because you don't like it doesn't mean you can just shut out everyone else with different likes on this topic.
I don't really like yaoi that much, but it someone talks about I dunno, Itsuki and Kyon yaoi from Haruhi it won't bother me that much as long as they aren't braindead about it. EDIT: Maybe that's a bad example, as in canon they aren't really attracted to each other, it's just a series joke. But you get the point.

And there are lesbian couplings even in non all girl love series, like Card Captor Sakura with Tomoyo and her mother, Yubisaki milk tea with Hidari's friend, Michiru and Haruka from Sailor Moon, Yasuna from Kashimashi. They aren't common at all, but they do exist.
And I still find that the bi is okay but lesbian is not is self serving and hypocrisy but whatever.
Yuri in shoujo is for dramatic effect and is typically more serious, Yuri in Shonen is for little boys to masturbate too. /end discussion.
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Old 2009-09-27, 00:15   Link #11055
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Then who would Yukari marry? Kurumu is probably attached to Gin and Mizore attached to that fairy tail guy.
The fairy tail guy fujisaki already has Kahlua, no need for mizore to get in with him.

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who knows, maybe the boy from Mizore's past will come back some how =\
That not likely either cuz he ran away screeming... so to speak.

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Kurumu doesnt really have Gin, since he loves Sun...
This is true. Gin has actually put himself into the negatives for probable mates where Tsu's harem are concerned
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Old 2009-09-27, 00:23   Link #11056
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Yuri in shoujo is for dramatic effect and is typically more serious, Yuri in Shonen is for little boys to masturbate too. /end discussion.
Yubisaki is seinen. But shonen is pretty much yeah just fanservice material with lesbians, but I bet I could find some pairings anyway if I looked hard enough. What about that lesbian classmate from Bleach? I haven't read much of it though. Is she pretty much a throwaway comic relief character?

But what I wanted to really point out was this made by an earlier poster:

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Hate to tell you, but guys and girls can be in genuine relationships with members of the same sex, not just for fanservice purposes.
F'in truth there.
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Old 2009-09-27, 00:29   Link #11057
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Okay, to temporarily derail the discussion from the yur/yaoi discussion again...

I have (un, I guess?)official confirmation from a third party resource: Moka was sent off to live in the human world with her mother (which explains quite a bit, really)

may that debate never show itself again.
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Old 2009-09-27, 00:30   Link #11058
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But what I wanted to really point out was this made by an earlier poster:


F'in truth there.
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Old 2009-09-27, 00:34   Link #11059
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Okay, to temporarily derail the discussion from the yur/yaoi discussion again...

I have (un, I guess?)official confirmation from a third party resource: Moka was sent off to live in the human world with her mother (which explains quite a bit, really)

may that debate never show itself again.
At what time was this in her life? And I am doubtful honestly.
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It was probably when she was around a preteen, maybe younger... see chapter 3 of SII if you want to take a guess

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The first one is the correct one...since I don't know where does it say "she'll go to search for her mother" while she just says "she's going to go live with her mother in the human's world"... .-.
at least, that's what a responder said... and I'm going to double-check it myself since I now have a guide, and maybe have even my Japanese teacher check it (although that one is kinda pushing it...)
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