No Game No Life - Episode 5 Discussion / Poll

[Requiem-x]

I thought they were gonna skip the whole part with Steph's humilliation, instead it lasted the whole episode, and personally, I'm not complaining. Horrible as it may sound, the Steph bullying is one of my favorite parts of the novel, at least what I've read so far, so I loved this episode, including the added parts (Steph didn't lose so much clothing in the novel, and the whole "If your opponent is another human, you're screwed" part was glorious)

Also, once again

Spoiler for Really going for it:

The harem aspect got pretty toned down, at least on Steph's side; in the novel, it was stated she wanted to get rid of the forced love oath when she challenged Sora at first, and after she loses it's said (not sure if it was the narration or Shiro) that if that was the case she should have asked for that rather than make Sora a riajuu.

Once again, not complaining, their dynamic still works perfectly, and this way the more, um, delicate viewers have less to complain about.

Another great mix of fanservice, comedy and serious business, this series continues to deliver, and as someone who played and loved kamidori, I welcome our new angelic guest. Now to see if she resembles the loyal one or the crazy one more

[GDB]

Originally Posted by Shadow5YA

And if a girl has to look pretty, that limits the amount of grotesque features they can put onto her before she is no longer attractive.

Sylvanas shows you can be both pretty and intimidating.

Spoiler:

However, it also shows you can't really be pretty, intimidating (like death), and Angelic looking, just from an initial look.

[kagato3]

Originally Posted by Ickarium

Beating Sora and Shiro is easy, if you think about it.

When they say 'Sure, pick the game', you specify a game where they are far apart. They go catatonic. You win.

Remember they have to agree to the game too, so something like that would not happen unless she had something that gave her a huge amount of leverage over them which is fairly impossible for her. Even more so since the only way for her to really pick the game is if they challenged her

[AC-Phoenix]

Originally Posted by kagato3

Remember they have to agree to the game too, so something like that would not happen unless she had something that gave her a huge amount of leverage over them which is fairly impossible for her. Even more so since the only way for her to really pick the game is if they challenged her

Well You'd just have to say things you really know they can't win like jousting or armwrestinling - or 'how long can you stand being in a crowd'.
Though Armwrestling can be set up in a way someone can't loose even if they are against someone stronger too...

[Gan_HOPE326]

Originally Posted by GDB

Sylvanas shows you can be both pretty and intimidating.

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However, it also shows you can't really be pretty, intimidating (like death), and Angelic looking, just from an initial look.[/images]

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They just didn't nail it fully. I mean, it was imposing - sort of - but they could have done better with the combination of character design - lighting - soundtrack to give a scarier impression, which would have made the joke all the funnier .

[kagato3]

Originally Posted by AC-Phoenix

Well You'd just have to say things you really know they can't win like jousting or armwrestinling - or 'how long can you stand being in a crowd'.
Though Armwrestling can be set up in a way someone can't loose even if they are against someone stronger too...

My point is they still have to agree to the game, they still have the option to say no even if they just let her pick since really Steph doesn't have anything they absolutely need. Nothing is binding until they say the pledge that starts the game and either side could walk away. Kurami didn't have the option since she was in a tournament

[AC-Phoenix]

Originally Posted by kagato3

My point is they still have to agree to the game, they still have the option to say no even if they just let her pick since really Steph doesn't have anything they absolutely need. Nothing is binding until they say the pledge that starts the game and either side could walk away. Kurami didn't have the option since she was in a tournament

Should have made myself a bit clearer, there my bad. I was assuming a 'being challenged by them' - situation.



this series is great thus far btw. I even went against my principles to never read a LN again and started reading it (starting from the end of EP 5).

[JamJackEvo]

Can't wait to see that "simple" game get animated in the next episode...

It will be mind-blowing.

[AC-Phoenix]

Originally Posted by JamJackEvo

Can't wait to see that "simple" game get animated in the next episode...

It will be mind-blowing.

I see what you did there

[Shadow5YA]

Originally Posted by Gan_HOPE326

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They just didn't nail it fully. I mean, it was imposing - sort of - but they could have done better with the combination of character design - lighting - soundtrack to give a scarier impression, which would have made the joke all the funnier .

The second and third images don't look intimidating at all.

The first one does, but only because she looks inhuman to the point where I wouldn't consider her attractive.

[kukuru]

Originally Posted by Shadow5YA

The second and third images don't look intimidating at all.

The first one does, but only because she looks inhuman to the point where I wouldn't consider her attractive.

It's subjective. A gun itself doesn't look intimidating, but the fact you know what a gun is makes the gun intimidating.

Also, a picture of a gun pointed at you won't spike anyone's fear meter much, but a real gun pointed at you will heavily give off fear factor.

I'm sure we'll get a lot of chances to see it in action.

[kagato3]

Originally Posted by AC-Phoenix

Should have made myself a bit clearer, there my bad. I was assuming a 'being challenged by them' - situation.



this series is great thus far btw. I even went against my principles to never read a LN again and started reading it (starting from the end of EP 5).

They still have the right to walk away from the game until it starts so no one is forced intoa game that is too unfair to either side unless what is wagered is more important then walking away.

As for the LN I would suggest reading volume 2 at the least from the start as ep 5 is just the barest cliff notes of what was happening.

[AC-Phoenix]

Originally Posted by kagato3

They still have the right to walk away from the game until it starts so no one is forced intoa game that is too unfair to either side unless what is wagered is more important then walking away.

As for the LN I would suggest reading volume 2 at the least from the start as ep 5 is just the barest cliff notes of what was happening.

As if [] would let someone say they walked away from a game

[kagato3]

Originally Posted by AC-Phoenix

As if [] would let someone say they walked away from a game

They already showed they wouldn't go willingly into an unwinnable game. So yes they would just walk away.

[frodonk]

Steph is turning out to be my most favorite girl this season, "best" isn't enough to describe her.

all these hints about what game blank will play with Jibril is driving me crazy, can't wait until next week!!!

[kukuru]

Originally Posted by AC-Phoenix

As if [] would let someone say they walked away from a game

Mentioned in episode 5, "it won't even be a game" thus they would decline it.

To be a game to [ ] they are able to win. Thus that's how [ ] looks at things. if there is 1% chance of winning, then [ ] will win.

Yes it's catch 22, but that's how [ ] works.

[Esclair]

Steph has a long way to go before she's really qualified to be a true ruler. It's funny that she spends all her free time trying to beat Sora/Shiro in a game when her current situation is actually an incredible stroke of fortune.

Right now, she's pretty much the ruler of Imanity in all but name. She handles pretty much everything since Sora/Shiro don't really care about governing. In fact, they don't particularly care about policies either unless asked. Sora/Shiro are an incredible resource that Steph has exclusive access to with little drawbacks. They only care about playing games and winning against the other races. Since Sora/Shiro like Steph she can pretty much use them whenever she needs something handled that she can't handle herself, and they pretty much ask for very little in return (just a little shack, daily meals, and access to books). She doesn't have to worry about them gaining political influence either. Not to mention during the games they will likely offer themselves up as the ante, which is incredibly convenient for her. Even if they lose, Steph is not harmed and Imanity still can go back to their scenario at the beginning, which was to remove themselves from the game and go under the protection of another race.

They're also an incredible resource for Steph to learn from. They pretty much go easy on Steph in terms of the antes. She should be using this opportunity to learn all their tricks instead of trying to beat them through luck. She seems like a pretty smart girl so even if she might not be able to reach their levels if she can attain their knowledge and experience she'd be pretty formidable in her own right.

Finally, she's the only one that knows their weakness of being unable to function when separated. She actually has total power of them, she just doesn't realize it yet.

[AC-Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Esclair

Steph has a long way to go before she's really qualified to be a true ruler. It's funny that she spends all her free time trying to beat Sora/Shiro in a game when her current situation is actually an incredible stroke of fortune.

Right now, she's pretty much the ruler of Imanity in all but name. She handles pretty much everything since Sora/Shiro don't really care about governing. In fact, they don't particularly care about policies either unless asked. Sora/Shiro are an incredible resource that Steph has exclusive access to with little drawbacks. They only care about playing games and winning against the other races. Since Sora/Shiro like Steph she can pretty much use them whenever she needs something handled that she can't handle herself, and they pretty much ask for very little in return (just a little shack, daily meals, and access to books). She doesn't have to worry about them gaining political influence either. Not to mention during the games they will likely offer themselves up as the ante, which is incredibly convenient for her. Even if they lose, Steph is not harmed and Imanity still can go back to their scenario at the beginning, which was to remove themselves from the game and go under the protection of another race.

They're also an incredible resource for Steph to learn from. They pretty much go easy on Steph in terms of the antes. She should be using this opportunity to learn all their tricks instead of trying to beat them through luck. She seems like a pretty smart girl so even if she might not be able to reach their levels if she can attain their knowledge and experience she'd be pretty formidable in her own right.

Finally, she's the only one that knows their weakness of being unable to function when separated. She actually has total power of them, she just doesn't realize it yet.

Aehm yeah it appears that didn't get over in the anime as well as in the novel but

Spoiler for About Ruling - LN; Should have happened by now:

They do rule by setting guidlines like those state obligations and the agricultural changes, but leave the execution to Steph and the ministers.

As for the Blacksjack game against him Sora... Well nowadays card counting is hardly possible.
First off they use around 7 decks in a Casino, electronical shufflers and also don't always put cards back immediately - when they do however all cards currently not on the table are getting mixed again.
So its basically just like Sora said - She made it a lot easier by arranging the cards to her liking and (what he didn't say in neither the anime nor the novel) also only using one deck.

[Esclair]

Originally Posted by AC-Phoenix

Aehm yeah it appears that didn't get over in the anime as well as in the novel but

Spoiler for About Ruling - LN; Should have happened by now:

They do rule by setting guidlines like those state obligations and the agricultural changes, but leave the execution to Steph and the ministers.

Yeah but that's only because Steph asked for their help regarding those matters. If she didn't bring it up they wouldn't have bothered. They treated those issues no differently than as if it were a Civlizations game. This episode showed that unless Steph comes to them they're perfectly fine holing themselves up and just doing research. They weren't even aware that Steph was handling all the 'politics'.

As for the Blacksjack game against him Sora... Well nowadays card counting is hardly possible.
First off they use around 7 decks in a Casino, electronical shufflers and also don't always put cards back immediately - when they do however all cards currently not on the table are getting mixed again.
So its basically just like Sora said - She made it a lot easier by arranging the cards to her liking and (what he didn't say in neither the anime nor the novel) also only using one deck.

Apparently still possible because Ben Affleck was just banned from playing Black Jack last week from a Vegas casino: http://www.latimes.com/entertainment...502-story.html

The casino accused him of card counting afte he won $800,000 that weekend off of Black Jack.

[kagato3]

Originally Posted by Esclair

Steph has a long way to go before she's really qualified to be a true ruler. It's funny that she spends all her free time trying to beat Sora/Shiro in a game when her current situation is actually an incredible stroke of fortune.

Right now, she's pretty much the ruler of Imanity in all but name. She handles pretty much everything since Sora/Shiro don't really care about governing. In fact, they don't particularly care about policies either unless asked. Sora/Shiro are an incredible resource that Steph has exclusive access to with little drawbacks. They only care about playing games and winning against the other races. Since Sora/Shiro like Steph she can pretty much use them whenever she needs something handled that she can't handle herself, and they pretty much ask for very little in return (just a little shack, daily meals, and access to books). She doesn't have to worry about them gaining political influence either. Not to mention during the games they will likely offer themselves up as the ante, which is incredibly convenient for her. Even if they lose, Steph is not harmed and Imanity still can go back to their scenario at the beginning, which was to remove themselves from the game and go under the protection of another race.

They're also an incredible resource for Steph to learn from. They pretty much go easy on Steph in terms of the antes. She should be using this opportunity to learn all their tricks instead of trying to beat them through luck. She seems like a pretty smart girl so even if she might not be able to reach their levels if she can attain their knowledge and experience she'd be pretty formidable in her own right.

Finally, she's the only one that knows their weakness of being unable to function when separated. She actually has total power of them, she just doesn't realize it yet.

The bolded part is completely wrong. [] is now the official ruler of Imanity if they loose themselves who ever wins gains complete control of Imanity. so far Steph has been shown to want them to take the job seriously (which they always were she just didn't understand) then to actually want to rule since she was getting pissed about having to do it in their stead.

They actually were expecting to have to deal with the politics, Steph threw them off by being a lot more capable then they had judged her.

Finding out about Steph's grandfather loosing what amounted to the bulk of Imanity's knowledge made Sora

Spoiler for LN of what was covered in ep 5:

Place a note to pretty much end illiteracy by giving the instructions for mass producing paper and printing presses to the ministers once he got back to the palace. They are only able to fix problems they know about and most of what they have been doing since they were crowned is figuring out what the problems are and how to get the resources to fix them