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krusher · 2004-01-04, 12:47

Yes, people have things called opinions and they arent always the same...

EliteJounin · 2004-01-04, 21:31

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Originally Posted by Sugetsu

Based on animeinfo's top 100 anime list, I have purchased Last Exile's DVD. But, I have been watching 9 episodes so far and the story is going nowhere. In fact I still don't know what last exile means. The action is pretty boring. The characters are not original at all. The story is very slow. And there are some parts that are supposed to be very emotional but I just don’t get the point. For example in episode 6 when Ravey starts crying because she doesn’t want to be in the ship and then comes that little girl hugs her and starts saying Ravey! Ravey! ... What was so terrible?
-_-;; Or perhaps they are just too emotional for my taste… The only good things so far have been the video and sound quality.

So when is it going get fun? or perhaps 9 episodes were supposed to be enough to show how good this anime is? If so this not my cup of tea and I have wasted 85 dollars!!!!!!

Please, I don't want to waste my money

Can anyone tell me what the fun parts of Last Exile are so that I can watched this anime with higher expectations once again? I DON’T WANNA WASTE MY MONEY

What are you talking about man?!?! The whole series is good. Maybe you'll have to watch the first two or three to get interested in it. But its all good.

a_nevels666 · 2004-01-05, 08:35

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Originally Posted by EliteJounin

What are you talking about man?!?! The whole series is good. Maybe you'll have to watch the first two or three to get interested in it. But its all good.

I myself haven't really seen Last Exile (...yet, I might later) but what I did see didn't interest me all that much. My first impressions could be wrong, but even if is good, then that doesn't neccesarily mean everyone will like it. Different people like different things.

kamij0 · 2004-01-05, 08:37

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Originally Posted by krusher

Yes, people have things called opinions and they arent always the same...

IMO , the exciting part is where silvanna got involved in action.

semmel · 2004-01-05, 09:13

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Originally Posted by Lord Raiden

I'm really curious how anyone could hate Last Exile. Personally I loved it and would recommend it to anyone. Only one thing. Don't dive into the middle of the series and expect that you'll like it from one episode. Reason being, each episode builds onto the next and the next and the next. You step in the middle and you'll hate it. I know this from experience. First time I checked it out, I tried to watch Episode 5 and after 15 minutes of suffering I deleted it.

Went back several months later and started from the beginning like I should have and when I got to EP 5 I not only liked it, but I loved it and it all make such a huge amount of sence, and it seemed to get better. Last Exile is not one of those series you can just drop into the middle of and actually enjoy. Think of it like a murder mystery. IF you don't start from the beginning, you'll end up missing too much and you will end up hating the show.

Who would be stupid enough to start an anime serie in the middle ?

Ranko · 2004-01-05, 11:52

I just got the Disc for the holidays and i love it, it probaly goes with the fact that i'm majoring areospace engineering, it's a gonzo anime all the gonzo anime's i've seen so far accept peacemaker have made me yell for more.

-Gabe

shinobu4ever · 2004-01-07, 09:51

i thought the whole last exile series was superb from start to finish first 5 episode were a little slow but you have to keep watching to get the whole feel to the show

it ended perfect

hunterx · 2004-01-07, 13:04

I always thought it was overrated. Most people think it is beautiful and yea it is to a certain extent but the story is boring and predictable. it's is certainly not as great as the ratings suggest

Don Eunuch · 2004-01-14, 09:01

I don't hate it, but I don't like it enough to buy it. The story didn't do much for me, its interesting at first but gets boring.

guynextdoor · 2004-01-17, 02:04

i like it, but that doesnt mean u would. another man's meat is another man's poison, bla bla bla..

that's just how it is, so in this case, majority of the ppl here like Exile (me included) but of course there are a few exceptions. the story builds up every ep and the visuals rock, but the story is a bit lacking in a few areas but nevertheless very unique. just my 2 cents

wao · 2004-02-06, 10:35

(This ought to be the right forum as Last Exile's been on DVD so far...)

Ok, there's this really big fan of Last Exile on this other forum, he's coming very close to attaining fanboi-status... and he's really annoying me, then he goes and says this:

..."On additional research, it was Top 5 for a long time in Japan. Claus was a high placer in best male character polls. And Last Exile is outselling everything on DVD at the moment in the US and here in Australia."...

I wouldn't be surprised if this simply was what he wanted to believe. o_o What would be in the Top 5? I'd expect those long running trademark series like Doraemon and Sazae-san and that stuff... not Last Exile! And in "high placer", does anyone NOT think this probably means #90 on the top 100? Because somehow I just don't see it... maybe it's just because everyone keeps saying that Last Exile was rather rushed at the end because there just wasn't enough popularity for it?

Also, about the Australia thing, does anyone have confirmed stats about it? Because if all of that was true then I'd be somewhat interested. I know for a fact it's a favourite of many people online who mostly live in America etc. ... but in Japan, what is it like?

(I will personally bow down in thanks if kj1980 spares time to write a post because he'd probably know best about the Japan thing.)

Thanks so much! And please, do type the "you lazy f***, go search it for yourself on google, somebody close this thread" posts, because I kind of deserve it.

I really should go search but maybe if more people knew... meh ^^:

brightman · 2004-02-06, 11:13

I think he's referring to Last Exile being top 5 in some magazine anime polls... Because it happened to be a late night anime airing on the smallest major Tokyo regional network (TV Tokyo) and attained TV ratings of less than 1.5 (as opposed to say, Sazae-san's 18.0's)...

Plus it dropped off pretty quickly, for example in the Newtype polls I think it was only up in the top 20 anime listing two or three times. Unlike say, Gundam Seed.

kj1980 · 2004-02-06, 13:38

Like I said on a different thread, the "Top 5" stuff depends on which sample the poll taker decides to take from.

I seriously doubt "Last Exile" would be considered as one of the best anime ever created for the Japanese population as a whole.

Let's take the States for example. If one were to poll the entire population of the United States on the best animation, the top rankings would definitely go to Disney animation from the late 1940s to the early 1950s - when Disney made animations with stories that were actually good, like "Snow White and the Seven Dwarves." If you reduce the sample size to say..."Gen X'ers and Gen Y'ers), it will most likely be "South Park" or "The Simpsons."

Perhaps the reference that person was using was a poll targeting a sample of people like us (i.e.: Newtype Magazine, Animage, etc.) Then, of course it will be skewed towards animes that a "normal person" will/cannot watch.

Then there is the issue when "Last Exile" was being shown.
"Last Exile" was shown on TV Tokyo every Wednesdays at 25:30-26:00 (Thursdays 1:30AM-2:00AM). The two things to point out here is that:
A. TV Tokyo . Out of all the major [VHF] stations, TV Tokyo (Channel 12) is the most dimunitive. Many animes that are targeted toward otakus are/were shown on TV Tokyo (i.e.: Slayers, Neon Genesis Evangelion, etc.). The reason? TV Tokyo has the cheapest time slots compared to other larger TV stations. And, it gets even more cheaper if it shown late at night...which will go on to...
B. Wednesdays at 25:30-26:00 It is in the middle of the week at 1:30-2:00AM. Unless you happen to really love anime, most people will be asleep. Kids have school and adults have to go to work the next day. Only anime otakus watch anime with such a late night showing.

So to answer you question: " know for a fact it's a favourite of many people online who mostly live in America etc. ... but in Japan, what is it like?"

The answer will be...something similar to America. It was a good anime that was worth watching by anime otakus....but to the Japanese populace as a whole, it is not even worth mentioning as no anime can beat the popularity of "Doraemon" and "Sazaesan."

Question: what is a "fanboi-status?"

wao · 2004-02-06, 18:16

Ahhhh! ^_^ Thank you so much, kj1980! That was seiously very helpful, thank you so much...

Well, a TYPICAL "fanboi" would be people who

1. Love something to death even though they can never give proper reasons
2. Never have a single thing bad to say about the anime they like, oh no, not even an obviously bad part that proper fans would also point out...
3. Also love to flame other anime.
4. (Usually) cannot spell (therefore fanBOI.)

A generalization I know... but there are some people I consider fanbois when they start gushing on and on about an anime without trying to look at it from a different point of view. And the point about THIS particular person is, he actually has watched rather little anime compared to the usual fan (not saying otaku)... And he's pretty misinformed, heck, in another post he thought Shingetsutan Tsukihime started in 2004 just because he saw the torrents for it only recently.

Thank you very much for the information anyway, kj1980 and brightman! Now I shall go and pwn this guy... XD

Sabin · 2004-02-06, 23:38

Call me a fasnboi if you wish but i would easily put LE in my personal top 5. Personally i think its a shame that a show as good as this was got such a poor time slot.

frowndog · 2004-02-07, 01:24

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Originally Posted by Sabin

Call me a fasnboi if you wish but i would easily put LE in my personal top 5. Personally i think its a shame that a show as good as this was got such a poor time slot.

Not to start an argument or anything but LE had a decent storyline that had promise at the start. Then it introduced character after character and situation after situation and then it... ended.

I personally found the whole Mysteriums and EXILE thing very anti-climatic

FinFangFoom · 2004-02-07, 01:38

Last Exile is a top 5 anime for me also. But I attribute it to LE's strong Star Wars influance, which is the top movie series for me also.

LVO · 2004-03-03, 23:14

I just saw the commercials on the TV a few minutes ago.

Last Exile will premier on TechTV's anime block, Anime Unleashed, March 8th through March 13th from 10pm to 11pm Eastern.

I never got a chance to watch the subs, so I look forward to catching the dubs on TV. You can read the whole article >>HERE<<

Briareos · 2004-03-04, 15:07

LE, what a fun ride that was (is). Good (non ground-breaking) series that lets you do some thinking on some monor questions related to the world. (i.e. There's room for interpretation at specific points throughout the series.) Very entertaining IMO.

It's worth noting that they're only going to show eps 1-13, and won't actually finish airing the show until the eps are finished with the dub process (2005). Interesting choice.

The dub in the preview sounds fairly good as far as dubs go (although they only play a few lines of dialogue -- and please don't start another "dubs are evil" string in this thread, I think we're all well aware that dubs are a love it or hate it thing by now.).

orochidp · 2004-03-05, 00:42

BWAR HAR HAR!
I'm here to re-start a age-old battle!

IMO, some anime's dubs are vastly better than their subs. SUCK ON THAT!

2004-02-06, 10:35	Link #51
wao OK. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Fields of High Attus Age: 34	Last Exile top 5 in Japan? Could someone confirm this? (This ought to be the right forum as Last Exile's been on DVD so far...) Ok, there's this really big fan of Last Exile on this other forum, he's coming very close to attaining fanboi-status... and he's really annoying me, then he goes and says this: ..."On additional research, it was Top 5 for a long time in Japan. Claus was a high placer in best male character polls. And Last Exile is outselling everything on DVD at the moment in the US and here in Australia."... I wouldn't be surprised if this simply was what he wanted to believe. o_o What would be in the Top 5? I'd expect those long running trademark series like Doraemon and Sazae-san and that stuff... not Last Exile! And in "high placer", does anyone NOT think this probably means #90 on the top 100? Because somehow I just don't see it... maybe it's just because everyone keeps saying that Last Exile was rather rushed at the end because there just wasn't enough popularity for it? Also, about the Australia thing, does anyone have confirmed stats about it? Because if all of that was true then I'd be somewhat interested. I know for a fact it's a favourite of many people online who mostly live in America etc. ... but in Japan, what is it like? (I will personally bow down in thanks if kj1980 spares time to write a post because he'd probably know best about the Japan thing.) Thanks so much! And please, do type the "you lazy f***, go search it for yourself on google, somebody close this thread" posts, because I kind of deserve it. I really should go search but maybe if more people knew... meh ^^:

2004-02-06, 11:13	Link #52
brightman Ancient Member Join Date: Apr 2002	I think he's referring to Last Exile being top 5 in some magazine anime polls... Because it happened to be a late night anime airing on the smallest major Tokyo regional network (TV Tokyo) and attained TV ratings of less than 1.5 (as opposed to say, Sazae-san's 18.0's)... Plus it dropped off pretty quickly, for example in the Newtype polls I think it was only up in the top 20 anime listing two or three times. Unlike say, Gundam Seed. __________________ Copyright © 2002 Brightman

2004-03-03, 23:14	Link #58
LVO Member Join Date: Jan 2004	Last Exile on TechTV I just saw the commercials on the TV a few minutes ago. Last Exile will premier on TechTV's anime block, Anime Unleashed, March 8th through March 13th from 10pm to 11pm Eastern. I never got a chance to watch the subs, so I look forward to catching the dubs on TV. You can read the whole article >>HERE<<

2004-01-04, 12:47	Link #41
krusher Member Join Date: Dec 2003	Yes, people have things called opinions and they arent always the same...

2004-01-05, 11:52	Link #46
Ranko Mech Engineer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Earth Age: 38	I just got the Disc for the holidays and i love it, it probaly goes with the fact that i'm majoring areospace engineering, it's a gonzo anime all the gonzo anime's i've seen so far accept peacemaker have made me yell for more. -Gabe

2004-01-07, 09:51	Link #47
shinobu4ever The original echhi!! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: were anime is unknown........UK Age: 38	i thought the whole last exile series was superb from start to finish first 5 episode were a little slow but you have to keep watching to get the whole feel to the show it ended perfect

2004-01-07, 13:04	Link #48
hunterx ore wa kanpeki da Join Date: Nov 2003	I always thought it was overrated. Most people think it is beautiful and yea it is to a certain extent but the story is boring and predictable. it's is certainly not as great as the ratings suggest

2004-01-14, 09:01	Link #49
Don Eunuch Lin Er Join Date: May 2003	I don't hate it, but I don't like it enough to buy it. The story didn't do much for me, its interesting at first but gets boring.

2004-01-17, 02:04	Link #50
guynextdoor arcueid !! ^^ Join Date: Dec 2003	i like it, but that doesnt mean u would. another man's meat is another man's poison, bla bla bla.. that's just how it is, so in this case, majority of the ppl here like Exile (me included) but of course there are a few exceptions. the story builds up every ep and the visuals rock, but the story is a bit lacking in a few areas but nevertheless very unique. just my 2 cents

2004-02-06, 13:38	Link #53
kj1980 Gomen asobase desuwa! Join Date: Nov 2003 Age: 43	Like I said on a different thread, the "Top 5" stuff depends on which sample the poll taker decides to take from. I seriously doubt "Last Exile" would be considered as one of the best anime ever created for the Japanese population as a whole. Let's take the States for example. If one were to poll the entire population of the United States on the best animation, the top rankings would definitely go to Disney animation from the late 1940s to the early 1950s - when Disney made animations with stories that were actually good, like "Snow White and the Seven Dwarves." If you reduce the sample size to say..."Gen X'ers and Gen Y'ers), it will most likely be "South Park" or "The Simpsons." Perhaps the reference that person was using was a poll targeting a sample of people like us (i.e.: Newtype Magazine, Animage, etc.) Then, of course it will be skewed towards animes that a "normal person" will/cannot watch. Then there is the issue when "Last Exile" was being shown. "Last Exile" was shown on TV Tokyo every Wednesdays at 25:30-26:00 (Thursdays 1:30AM-2:00AM). The two things to point out here is that: A. TV Tokyo . Out of all the major [VHF] stations, TV Tokyo (Channel 12) is the most dimunitive. Many animes that are targeted toward otakus are/were shown on TV Tokyo (i.e.: Slayers, Neon Genesis Evangelion, etc.). The reason? TV Tokyo has the cheapest time slots compared to other larger TV stations. And, it gets even more cheaper if it shown late at night...which will go on to... B. Wednesdays at 25:30-26:00 It is in the middle of the week at 1:30-2:00AM. Unless you happen to really love anime, most people will be asleep. Kids have school and adults have to go to work the next day. Only anime otakus watch anime with such a late night showing. So to answer you question: " know for a fact it's a favourite of many people online who mostly live in America etc. ... but in Japan, what is it like?" The answer will be...something similar to America. It was a good anime that was worth watching by anime otakus....but to the Japanese populace as a whole, it is not even worth mentioning as no anime can beat the popularity of "Doraemon" and "Sazaesan." Question: what is a "fanboi-status?"

2004-02-06, 18:16	Link #54
wao OK. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Fields of High Attus Age: 34	Ahhhh! ^_^ Thank you so much, kj1980! That was seiously very helpful, thank you so much... Well, a TYPICAL "fanboi" would be people who 1. Love something to death even though they can never give proper reasons 2. Never have a single thing bad to say about the anime they like, oh no, not even an obviously bad part that proper fans would also point out... 3. Also love to flame other anime. 4. (Usually) cannot spell (therefore fanBOI.) A generalization I know... but there are some people I consider fanbois when they start gushing on and on about an anime without trying to look at it from a different point of view. And the point about THIS particular person is, he actually has watched rather little anime compared to the usual fan (not saying otaku)... And he's pretty misinformed, heck, in another post he thought Shingetsutan Tsukihime started in 2004 just because he saw the torrents for it only recently. Thank you very much for the information anyway, kj1980 and brightman! Now I shall go and pwn this guy... XD

2004-02-06, 23:38	Link #55
Sabin Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Age: 44	Call me a fasnboi if you wish but i would easily put LE in my personal top 5. Personally i think its a shame that a show as good as this was got such a poor time slot.

2004-03-04, 15:07	Link #59
Briareos Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kalamazoo, Michigan, USA Age: 53	LE, what a fun ride that was (is). Good (non ground-breaking) series that lets you do some thinking on some monor questions related to the world. (i.e. There's room for interpretation at specific points throughout the series.) Very entertaining IMO. It's worth noting that they're only going to show eps 1-13, and won't actually finish airing the show until the eps are finished with the dub process (2005). Interesting choice. The dub in the preview sounds fairly good as far as dubs go (although they only play a few lines of dialogue -- and please don't start another "dubs are evil" string in this thread, I think we're all well aware that dubs are a love it or hate it thing by now.).

2004-03-05, 00:42	Link #60
orochidp Hide the kids Join Date: Jan 2004	BWAR HAR HAR! I'm here to re-start a age-old battle! IMO, some anime's dubs are vastly better than their subs. SUCK ON THAT!