Vivid Strike! - Episode 1 Discussion / Poll

[Kairin]

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[Nachtwandler]

I will just repeat my comment in general thread.

First episode was actually decent. For now it looks like first arc of Vivid but done right.

[Random Wanderer]

OMG, Einhart's accepted the Harunyan nickname for general use! Given the way this mess is working with this franchise we may never see the moment when she receives said nickname, but it's still wonderful.

Oh hey, Sieg spotted in the OP! I still love you, Sieg!

[Kazu-kun]

I thought they said Einhart was the Under 15 champion, but then they said Rinne is the Under 15 champion. I'm confused. Who's the champion then?

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

I thought they said Einhart was the Under 15 champion, but then they said Rinne is the champion. I'm confused. Who's the champion then?

Well, Nove specifically says "world champion" for Einhart, but even though the translation that I saw used the same English words for Rinne, what Einhart called her was different. If I were to make a rough approximation of a translation, it would be something like "the current under 15 first-place in world ranking." Someone better at Japanese than I am can feel free to take their shot in there...

We don't have a clear picture of everything yet. Right now we don't actually know the exact date, although extra materials tell us this is set about a year after Vivid. But Vivid hasn't ended yet. We don't know how long it lasts, and what happens in it. We don't know exactly how long a time period this "about a year" is. We don't know exactly when Einhart won her champion title, or if she competed in the same tournament that Rinne was in. In fact, that may not even be the Inter-middle tournament, since the Inter-middle accepted up to 19-year-olds. There are too many pieces missing for us to get the details clear right now.

[green-link94]

Well here is a gtranslate of the world entries on the official site fi anyone is intrested. And about both Rinne and Einhart being champions in the last entry atleast if gtranslate is accurate enough there is a winter and spring tournament atleast maybe? So probably different tournaments a more proper translation could say for certain though.
http://vivid-strike.com/world/

magic
In the dimension the world in one of the standard techniques, to operate by using the magic elements in the air.
Light called "magic light" is generated at the time of manifestation, this magic light color is different for each individual.

Strike Arts
The most widespread martial arts in Middochiruda.
At the center blow technology to fight around the fist-punch-kick is, there are many gym or dojo, competitions are also a number held.

Fighting competition
On the basis of the competition rules of each tournament, the competition in general that players fight in martial arts.
Various organizations are deploying tournament in different scale, usually referred to have been surrounded by rope "ring"
Fight on stage.

Comprehensive magic against the competition
Competition players fight by making full use of the comprehensive combat techniques that magic weapon was also included.
Rules and the stage is different for each tournament. Commonly known as "comprehensive".

Comprehensive magic against the competition
Sports associations.
It has held a number of fighting the competition and comprehensive magic against the competition.
10-19-year-old players comprehensive magic game Games can participate as a tournament sponsored by "inter Middle Champion
Ship "and the spring and the competition of fighting the competition that takes place in the winter," Spring Cup "," Winter Cup "is well known.

EDIT: there could also be something on the character pages since Einharts mentions her champion status
http://vivid-strike.com/character/

[Random Wanderer]

So... anyone want to bet that Rinne ended up adopted in the family of someone we know? I'm leaning towards Victoria's family, personally.

[FlareKnight]

You know what...I thought that was a good start.

Fuka is the kind of lead I can get behind. Right now her goal is pretty straight forward and understandable. Really the only person in the world she considered family became lost to her and she just kind of spiraled into a mess as a result. Her focus for getting stronger was shattered. The person she wanted to protect becoming stronger than her wasn't even really the problem. It was that she appeared to become a stranger who represented everything she wanted to protect her friend from.

Obviously there is something going on as to why Rinne did all that. She's still that person inside. For whatever reason....she thought it was a good idea to break her best friend's heart. I'm sure she thought it was necessary to keep that attitude going.

Regardless...ouch. Talk about a brutal introduction to the main cast. Getting systematically beaten to a pulp by all of them .

[Requiem-x]

Well, there certainly wasn't any time wasted in making clear this is a sports anime, or getting to introduce everything and everyone, which is probably for the best, since its probably assumed you already know most of the cast.

It does feel like a better sports anime than vivid already; story seems standard, but it gets to the point, animation is ok, Fuka turned out to be a nice character, and I like her voice.

Oh, hi, Sieg! I actually didn't expect to see you here.

All that said

Spoiler for Spoiler:

Maybe it was a bit too soon to show Rinne didn't actually become a pretentious jerk. I mean, can't we have even a little bit of antagonism or a problem to solve? Maybe she's being used by her adoptive family or something like that.

I mean, come on, the series' tag line is all about protecting, not everything can be super duper fun times in here.

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

OMG, Einhart's accepted the Harunyan nickname for general use! Given the way this mess is working with this franchise we may never see the moment when she receives said nickname, but it's still wonderful.

Oh hey, Sieg spotted in the OP! I still love you, Sieg!

Wait, that's a manga thing? Guess it shouldn't surprise me, I stopped reading a while ago.

...and it seems Yumina is also from the manga. Good thing vivid isn't plot heavy, or I'd be lost And speaking of Yumina, wow Vivio, you're losing terrain FAST

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by FlareKnight

You know what...I thought that was a good start.

Fuka is the kind of lead I can get behind. Right now her goal is pretty straight forward and understandable. Really the only person in the world she considered family became lost to her and she just kind of spiraled into a mess as a result. Her focus for getting stronger was shattered. The person she wanted to protect becoming stronger than her wasn't even really the problem. It was that she appeared to become a stranger who represented everything she wanted to protect her friend from.

Obviously there is something going on as to why Rinne did all that. She's still that person inside. For whatever reason....she thought it was a good idea to break her best friend's heart. I'm sure she thought it was necessary to keep that attitude going.

A lot to think about, for sure. It's clear to us that Rinne isn't really as cold as she acted, but for some reason she wants Fuka to believe that she is. But whatever her intent, it seems to me like it would have backfired pretty horribly if Einhart hadn't stumbled onto the situation: Fuka was heading full-speed towards winding up as a body in a ditch somewhere. She clearly didn't have any idea of what to live for after she believed she'd lost Rinne.

Regardless...ouch. Talk about a brutal introduction to the main cast. Getting systematically beaten to a pulp by all of them .

The hard-knock lesson to anyone who thinks they already know how to fight: have someone (or multiple someones) who looks weak kick the stuffing out of them. It did actually help her regain an interest: after they beat her up, it was Fuka who brought up the fact that if she couldn't beat them, she wouldn't have a chance against Rinne.

Wait, that's a manga thing? Guess it shouldn't surprise me, I stopped reading a while ago.

Yes. Chapter 48.

...and it seems Yumina is also from the manga.

Also yes. Chapter 64.

[B214]

Seeing the current Rinne makes it hard to imagine her past timid self. The terror of growth rate.

Well Einhart kinda mellowed down too, she's using Harunyan casually.

[Triple_R]

That was a pretty solid first episode. My only major issue is that it feels a little awkward to watch this after where the Vivid anime left off. I mean, it feels like I watched half-way through this show's predecessor, and am now jumping into this new show having missed key details from the 2nd half of this show's predecessor. In other words, there's a big plot gap in my personal head-canon, and it is a little frustrating to me.

It doesn't help that...

Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

I thought they said Einhart was the Under 15 champion, but then they said Rinne is the Under 15 champion. I'm confused. Who's the champion then?

Yeah, this also confused me.


Still, Fuka is a good lead character so far, and her personal background is a refreshing change of pace from Vivio's (and Nanoha's before Vivio).

The action scenes are also well-presented.

In addition to the above, I pretty much agree with Requiem-X's post.

[Requiem-x]

Originally Posted by Triple_R

That was a pretty solid first episode. My only major issue is that it feels a little awkward to watch this after where the Vivid anime left off. I mean, it feels like I watched half-way through this show's predecessor, and am now jumping into this new show having missed key details from the 2nd half of this show's predecessor. In other words, there's a big plot gap in my personal head-canon, and it is a little frustrating to me.

From what I've read (comments, not the manga), the manga has gone on for so long that at this point a second season might not help as much as you think.

[FlareKnight]

Ok maybe I've got the Under 15 champion figured out. Einhart is the current world champ for that age group. But currently Rinne's point totals has her ranked #1 in the world in that age group. So she's at the top, but she hasn't won a specific tournament that would place her as the current champion.

Since it sounded less like they were saying that Rinne is the champ, but rather she is just ranked #1. Normally I'd consider that the same thing, but then nothing would make sense .

If nothing else I do like the background and personality for Fuka. She does provide a breath of fresh air as a lead in the show.

[Rising Dragon]

So it's similar to how Sieglinde was at the top, even though she hadn't competed in the previous tournament in ViVid?

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

So it's similar to how Sieglinde was at the top, even though she hadn't competed in the previous tournament in ViVid?

Sieg was at the top because she'd won the Inter-middle tournament on the interdimensional level every single time she competed. She had never lost. There's a slight difference in scale: none of the girls in this series are competing with anyone beyond Midchilda.

With Rinne we can conclude that perhaps the tournament she's involved in is still ongoing, or perhaps that the competitions she's involved in right now, in which she is the top-ranked fighter for her age group, are not the same as the tournament that Einhart won to become named the world champion.

[HighGuard]

So not magical girl series..... So confused.

[b33g]

Originally Posted by FlareKnight

Since it sounded less like they were saying that Rinne is the champ, but rather she is just ranked #1. Normally I'd consider that the same thing, but then nothing would make sense .

Well, guess it depends on how the ranking's done, and how much the championship affects the rankings. Heck, even in real-world sport, it's possible for a non-champ team to be the #1 team.

[ramlaen]

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

So... anyone want to bet that Rinne ended up adopted in the family of someone we know? I'm leaning towards Victoria's family, personally.

Seems likely.

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by MarineCorps

So not magical girl series..... So confused.

It is, it's just grown increasingly non-standard. If you watched the OP near the end of the episode you'll have seen a few of the girls activate their barrier jackets, which is still an all-out magical girl transformation. But the Nanoha series has always been about friendship forged through combat. StrikerS shifted it more towards a military direction than a magical one (although the magic had always been magitech, really, Strikers just drove that home a bit more), and the young generation in Vivid and Vivid Strike are currently living in a time of peace that their parents brought them in the previous seasons, so they're using their powers in sports events and tournaments rather than to save the world.

Originally Posted by ramlaen

Seems likely.

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That was one of the big reasons why I suspected Victoria's family. Looking back, though, that view we got of Rinne's home has a note that it's the Berlinetta mansion, so Rinne Berlinetta probably hasn't been adopted by Victoria Dahlgren. That poster is a pretty strong indicator of a connection, though. I'll still place bets on Victoria being involved in Rinne's training.