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gazawraith · 2012-05-27, 22:55

Vegapunk was able to recreate Kizaru's logia power for his Pacifista so I wonder if CC did a similar thing and recreated someone's like... oh, I dont know, MEGELLAN

C.A. · 2012-05-27, 23:02

Even though Enel lost, it was only because of seastone and rubber. If Enel were to build up his Haki, he would definitely be among the strongest characters in One Piece.

If he picks up armament Haki, he would be absolutely devastating and be near invincible.

He has one of the best abilities we've seen so far, extremely powerful and versatile, his lightning has great destructive potential and essentially allows him to teleport by travelling at the speed of lightning. Seeing that he can shock himself back to life and doesn't seem to need to breathe, allowing him to even survive in space, he is probably one of the toughest things to kill in One Piece.

Randrak42 · 2012-05-27, 23:05

Both Crocodile and Enel suffered from what I like to call "Kenpachi Syndrome" where an antagonist for the arc is introduced as this big scary monster but then his overall battle ability is toned down so the main character can beat him.

After his escape from ID Crocodile's true power was displayed and from the looks of it, Luffy shouldn't realistically have beaten him back in Alabasta. Crocodile might not have displayed any usage of Haki but he has perfect mastery over his logia powers and his dehydration ability is deadly.

Enel on the other hand has shown to have perfect mastery over mantra (Observation Haki) and can even augment it with his devil fruit powers. Not only that but he has one of the most deadly and versatile logia element and aside from rubber, there doesn't seem to be a hard counter for his DF. Plus, the WG wouldn't issue one of the highest known bounties to him (supposedly) if he weren't powerful.

I don't know about Crocodile, but I would not be surprised in the least if Enel was around Admiral level should he make a return.

yakumo-chan · 2012-05-28, 03:57

in my opinion, Luffy didnt beat Crocodile, it was a draw.... RObin gave him the antidote, luffy is supposed to be dead right now, the final fight between crocodile and luffy was a draw.

so the matchup was this
2 wins for crocodile and 1 draw

Poetic Justice · 2012-05-28, 07:36

The yonkou is most definitely kaidou.

Hisoka?? · 2012-05-28, 11:49

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Originally Posted by yakumo-chan

in my opinion, Luffy didnt beat Crocodile, it was a draw.... RObin gave him the antidote, luffy is supposed to be dead right now, the final fight between crocodile and luffy was a draw.

so the matchup was this
2 wins for crocodile and 1 draw

More like 3 wins.

Poisoned and would have died vs knocked unconscious. Seems like knocked unconscious should be considered the winner.
But still, Crocodile was toned down quite a bit to be able to be matched by Luffy at that stage.

Kona · 2012-05-28, 17:55

Buggy had that treatment too.. If nami didnt have Buggys treasure I'm not sure luffy would of "pushed away" buggy to another island. Enel should of used his trident and luffy would of been defeated but noooo PIS. Croc got that treatment too.

paradox13 · 2012-05-28, 18:43

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Good enough to fight an admiral. What I really want to see is Mihawk going to Wano island to see if he really is the strongest swordsman.

Not this again.

Poetic Justice · 2012-05-29, 08:23

Seeing Law's reaction i think he is in fact the swordsman's son.

yakumo-chan · 2012-05-29, 08:44

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Originally Posted by Kona

Enel should of used his trident and luffy would of been defeated but noooo PIS.

this is true, most of Luffy's battle was because of Luck

Bari_Phillis · 2012-05-29, 10:19

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Originally Posted by Poetic Justice

The yonkou is most definitely kaidou.

It's gotta be Shanks. Why else not tell us? Whoever it is, I think we'll all be surprised.

On the note of Law being Mihawks son... lol

Not plausible. He was seen living alone in the mansion, and the manga is much too straightforward to add in extra, unnecessary things like this. It's not naruto where as-a-matter-of-fact" things happen just to add useless depth to the manga.

marvelB · 2012-05-29, 10:54

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Originally Posted by Poetic Justice

Seeing Law's reaction i think he is in fact the swordsman's son.

Are you talking about Kinemon? Maybe that would be true if Law's intro in the Sabaody arc hadn't already pointed out that he was a North Blue native, not a NW pirate.....

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Originally Posted by Randrak42

After his escape from ID Crocodile's true power was displayed and from the looks of it, Luffy shouldn't realistically have beaten him back in Alabasta. Crocodile might not have displayed any usage of Haki but he has perfect mastery over his logia powers and his dehydration ability is deadly.

lol, I remember all the past times I made this same argument about Crocodile and yet some people kept brushing it off. But yeah, the very fact that he was taking on all those world-class pirates and marines during the war very much shows that he's a powerful veteran, haki mastery or not (though I still question why he tried to snuff out Whitebeard out in the open instead of using the chaos from the war as his cover, which is more of his style).

I kept making a similar argument for Moria as well, though I do agree that his laziness was his greatest liability (though ironically, that laziness is one of the reasons I like the character!). Still, if you put that aside you can see that much like Crocodile he made very effective use of his power outside of his corpse reanimating skills (I particularly liked how he instantly switched places with his Doppelman when Robin tried to clutch him. Goes to show that his power has great defensive use despite not being a logia). Really, his only mistake was using Shadows Asgard against Luffy at TB. But I suppose after the events of the war he'll have made significant improvements to his fighting style (though I'll kinda miss his laziness if he really opted to get rid of it.....).

Ah yes, and a short reminder that there will indeed be a chapter this week....

Divine Punisher · 2012-05-29, 18:02

^ moria was annoying. i hope hes dead :P

james0246 · 2012-05-29, 21:13

^He's alive...and he's going to join Luffy's crew

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Divine Punisher · 2012-05-30, 02:21

^oh yes, i can picture him taking naps on deck next to zoro

marvelB · 2012-05-30, 04:44

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Originally Posted by Divine Punisher

^ moria was annoying. i hope hes dead :P

Boy, this sure takes me back to all those arguments about him getting killed off by Doflamingo..... not that it matters now, anyway.

Anyways, new thread is here.

ronin myael · 2012-05-30, 08:24

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Originally Posted by marvelB

Anyways, new threat is here.

sorry but i just had to bring this up. i was confused for a moment when i saw your post. who or what is the new threat marvel?

marvelB · 2012-05-30, 13:47

^lol, my bad. Though I must admit, a typo sure generates some interesting reactions.....

Kona · 2012-05-30, 22:06

Moriah manage to get Ryuumas body. Hope it's explained when Wano comes around.

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2012-05-27, 22:55	Link #141
gazawraith Member Join Date: Aug 2011	Vegapunk was able to recreate Kizaru's logia power for his Pacifista so I wonder if CC did a similar thing and recreated someone's like... oh, I dont know, MEGELLAN

2012-05-27, 23:05	Link #143
Randrak42 ANEGO Worshiper Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: By the vending machine, drinking tea.	Both Crocodile and Enel suffered from what I like to call "Kenpachi Syndrome" where an antagonist for the arc is introduced as this big scary monster but then his overall battle ability is toned down so the main character can beat him. After his escape from ID Crocodile's true power was displayed and from the looks of it, Luffy shouldn't realistically have beaten him back in Alabasta. Crocodile might not have displayed any usage of Haki but he has perfect mastery over his logia powers and his dehydration ability is deadly. Enel on the other hand has shown to have perfect mastery over mantra (Observation Haki) and can even augment it with his devil fruit powers. Not only that but he has one of the most deadly and versatile logia element and aside from rubber, there doesn't seem to be a hard counter for his DF. Plus, the WG wouldn't issue one of the highest known bounties to him (supposedly) if he weren't powerful. I don't know about Crocodile, but I would not be surprised in the least if Enel was around Admiral level should he make a return.

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Kona Banned Join Date: Dec 2004	Buggy had that treatment too.. If nami didnt have Buggys treasure I'm not sure luffy would of "pushed away" buggy to another island. Enel should of used his trident and luffy would of been defeated but noooo PIS. Croc got that treatment too.

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marvelB Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	^lol, my bad. Though I must admit, a typo sure generates some interesting reactions.....

2012-05-30, 22:06	Link #159
Kona Banned Join Date: Dec 2004	Moriah manage to get Ryuumas body. Hope it's explained when Wano comes around.