2008-07-14, 00:37 | Link #21 |
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Well, it is quite blatant, as episode 1 put a more blunt emphasis on the similarities: Maria's letter has uncanny similar sentences than Keiichi's.
On the other hand, the ones for Episode 2 with Meakashi-hen are a bit more "difficult". That said, the third title itself is quite... "gruesome" for those who finished episode 2. I just hope we won't have some "how to cook with Anibal lect... oops, Beatrice-sama!" scenes again, or it might be really insane
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2008-07-14, 00:40 | Link #22 |
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I just hope the Banquet which Ryukishi07 present to us will be abundant with Killings and Stakes for sides
Ryukishi07 already explained to the readers, that it is necessary to use the logics from Higurashi, but it's unappliable to explain solely based on that |
2008-07-14, 09:33 | Link #23 | |
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2008-07-16, 15:00 | Link #24 |
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The portrait has been put up on the offical webpage, and has the link: http://07th-expansion.net/umi/bea3.jpg
Portrait = Beatrice confirmed? Or does Bea3 means Bea-something, such as Beazawachiyo?( Be-a => Bear =>Kuma =>Kumazawa? )
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2008-07-16, 15:54 | Link #25 | |
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2008-07-17, 07:51 | Link #29 |
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Nice theory...But I still think that is a key point to the world's changing patterns
Like how Frederica Bernkastel reviewed to Rika prior to the beginning of the world of Minagoroshi-hen, she explained the rules XYZ, which are the rules that existed in all worlds. Upon knowing this, Rika finally defeated Miyo in Matsuribayashi-hen So I think, that the patterns of how the portrait changes is a key point to how the world organized. Even if it's just only Rule X exists, Battler still has a chance |
2008-07-17, 09:18 | Link #30 | |
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Bernkastel never talks to Rika, only to the readers If I'm not mistaken, Rika doesn't even use the words 'rule x, rule y, rule z' even though she is aware they are at work So, I don't think Battler can count with Bernkastel's help
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2008-07-17, 15:22 | Link #32 |
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Rika didn't defeat Takano becuase she knows about Rule XYZ. Rather, it's arguable that she knows about the rules, or at least the components of it, before, as hinted by her revelations to Akasaka in Himatsubushi-hen. However, as we can see, due to her stance and lack of effort, added with the strong will that drives Rule Y (which in turns feeds Rule X and Z), she was unable to do anything to prevent the tragerdy.
The key to victory in Matsuribayashi-hen is the miraculous disappearance of Rule X, enlisting and dissolving Rule Z, and preventing Rule Y from happening by knowing who the true culprit is before Rule Y happens.
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2008-07-17, 17:52 | Link #33 | |
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Well,
Rika knows that someone most probably will go nuts in every world, so she is kind of aware of rule X She knows that takano, tomitake and Rika always die, so Rule Y (the strog will that always makes it happen) And she is pretty aware of the atmosphere of Sonozaki/Hinamizawa and the whole stuff about the Sonozaki being 'potential' suspects of everything that happens => rule Z She just doesn't give the name 'rule' to the facts above Quote:
There's nothing indicating they are talking to Battler
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2008-07-17, 21:51 | Link #34 |
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I was talking about in the Manga version of Minagoroshi-hen
The first chapter is "Frederica", which is the conversation held prior to the beginning of Minagoroshi-hen, sadly Rika only remembered few things but forgotten what's important And to Ace: Yes it is indicated that they were talking to the depressed Battler from what I can see, it happened this way chronologically: EP2 -> EP2 Hidden Tea Party -> EP2 Tea Party Since Battler's depressed because he was defeated, Bern and Lambda decided to 'cheer him up' in different ways (Although Lambda does not seem like she's trying to cheer him up) Then Battler returns to the surface tea party of EP2, of which Rosa is been tortured by Beatrice, and smashed Beatrice's face onto the table...or a dish? Evidence: Beatrice mentioned in the Surface tea party, that Battler has been cheered up by 'some other witches' Which is the "Lord of the Nippa" and "Super-Paper"...O_o |
2008-07-18, 00:18 | Link #37 | |
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Well Battler is Beato's M-slave Though I think Beato wants Battler to make her his M-slave. Kinda the whole point of their game. I don't see how Beato is a Nisemusume
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2008-07-18, 07:27 | Link #38 | |
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Nothing more reliable than the game And Rika doesn't remember that talk, so, it's as if it didn't exist As for Umineko Seriously, I read it again and I couldn't find this part of 'being cheered up by some other witches' being said to Battler, really
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2008-07-18, 18:48 | Link #39 |
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Sorry if somebody told it before, but, the with is beatrice-sama.
look at the link http://07th-expansion.net/umi/bea3.jpg
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EDIT: Errrrr not? O.o;
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