2012-07-02, 15:59 | Link #561 |
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Awakened beings gather to watch the birth of the one above an abyssal beings, sounds like they have nothing better to do
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2012-07-02, 17:07 | Link #562 |
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Great chapter. Priscilla inching out of that... good twist. Let's hope she is coming out alone and Clare will emerge together with the twins.
This is going to be a good arc. It has the makings of one, at least.
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2012-07-02, 19:55 | Link #565 | |
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Even if one was to go looking for things to criticize this chapter they'd be limited to lack of dialog on the part of the 3 ghost beyond the fab 4 and all the we wanna fight too stuff (but that part would be a subjective opinion, the lack of interaction with supposedly 3 important characters however isn't). Plus where was Raki when they where asking people not to fight (not saying they'd ask him to leave since there plan is for him to 'talk' Clare into reemerging) I'm just saying I didn't even see him in the background. Which was kinda odd... Now about Priscilla emerging out of the blob... funny you say that it was a good twist. I thought that was exactly what Yagi was going to do ever since the blob was first revealed. I always believed that even if The Destroyer was on par with Priscilla in terms of power Clare's ability to indefinitely contain her with that power wouldn't be, simply put it's not Clare's body and she isn't fully yoki harmonized with the yoki of Raphaela/Lucilia since Clare wasn't made from the same yoma the sisters where and Galatea made it quite clear that that would be required for a total merger. So even though what Clare is doing is amazing
The only way Clare's plan would have really worked was if the Blob was far greater than Priscilla's level of power... even if it was stronger but only by a bit Clare's plan was just doomed for the above reasons. I was always hoping for a inside the blob chapter or two since I thought it could have been amazing character development for Clare as she realizes what is truly important to her, which isn't revenge but not becoming a monster like that and living on for those she loves and to be with them. I would have loved to have seen Clare realizing that she's losing the war and seeing Raphaela's memories echoing her own feelings as Raphaela must have had after killing her sister and then slowing dying in the blob and Clare realizing that's not what she wants and Raphaela was trying to warn her not to follow her path this whole time. The of course Clare realizing that this whole time she's been coming to this realization Priscilla has been using her confusion to escape and has almost done so. Now this could still happen, in a way... maybe we'll get a chapter or two inside the blob as Clare nears the end of her ability to contain Priscilla where we see from Clare's perspective in the blob. She'll start to hear Raki or at least memories of him trigger by the talks him talking blob (maybe interrupting a Raphaela memory) and slowly she'll come to realize that Raki is actually there, now an adult, he's just outside the blob talking to her and she's not imagining it. After all a chapter just seeing Raki talk to a blob from outside the blobs prospective would be rather... cheesy (think that's the word I'm looking for). So hopefully Yagi is thinking that too and chooses to have 'talking' to the blob idea play out from Clare's pov and not Raki's or the ghost's pov (at least until Clare starts realizing what's going on, after that point seeing from out side the blob and him taking to it could work really well once Raki realizes Clare is responding to the voice). Just my two cents anyways. Agreed, I personally see her as a blonde... I'm sure the artist was just bored of blonde after tons of past claymore colorings. Can't blame the artist for that, artists need passion to an artwork to commit that much time into making it... so if I'm stuck with brown hair for that reason I can live with it. Plus I'm good enough in photoshop to recoloring it (though don't expect it to be amazing, since converting colors is never as good as coloring them right the first time)
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2012-07-02, 20:23 | Link #566 |
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Decided to put my money where my mouth was... so I recolored recolored Octivia's hair color to blonde.
Now the question is do you all like it? Do you think her hair color is a bit darker but not brown either? What Fantasy colored in the first place is how you see her? or something else?
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2012-07-02, 20:54 | Link #568 |
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You maybe right... I went with light blonde since it was the first one that worked. Not so much since it's how I saw her (hadn't decided on the shade prior). Anyways recolored them again... what you all think now?
What color do you see Octivia's natural hair color as being? A) Light Blonde B) Darker Blonde C) Sandyish Brown D) Lightish Brown (Fantasy's original color choice)
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2012-07-02, 21:40 | Link #572 | ||
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^Raki is just 'entertaining' himself till he finds his dream girl again.
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To more confuse things then volume 21 cover page gave her very red hair, however it was red tones and every Claymore had that tone on there head too. Spoiler for pic:
Dauf is another example of this... the volume 7 cover showed red/orange and what clearly was his hand but volume 18 gave him a slightly darker anime color scheme. Spoiler for pics:
Then volume 19 gave us a blue Priscilla with red armor and wings vs anime Purple. I like don't like the color choices Yagi had here... they seem very odd Spoiler for pic:
Finally ch 110's colored cover page gave Raki sandy blonde hair even though the anime had him with brown hair... which I do feel is correct and the right choice (plus if he was almost blonde or blonde he'd pass off better as her little brother) Spoiler for pic:
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That said brown hair has always been colored that way in the series thus far and Octivia wasn't shaded that way. So leaning sandy myself (like how I see Raki) as being her cannon color, but not the exact shade I did (as stated recoloring only goes so far, it's always best to start from scratch and edit). That said I like the light blonde color the best.
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2012-07-02, 23:44 | Link #576 |
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I assumed they chartered a boat, rather than sail one themselves. :/ Though the explicit mention of exact days to travel from point A to point B makes my head spin in all sorts of the wrong way when trying to extrapolate and fit to past events in this manga.
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2012-07-02, 23:48 | Link #577 | |
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I hear yeah on things making sense on the A to B... first off we have no idea on the ships "hull speed" nor it's sail designs. Plus weather is a factor. Simply put they could make over 300 km (~200 miles) a day weather/currents favoring and an pretty good sailing ship or they could make 0 km/miles if the weather was against them (actually negative miles if it was really bad). So this island could potentially be HUGE or tiny. If they had a ship with an overall speed of 4.5 knots an hour they could travel a thousand nautical miles in 10 days, if 6 knots an hour about 1300 Nautical miles. Some ships can travel far faster with sails than 6 knots an hour, some doubling that (I know of slower designs of the 1700s+ could do 11.5 knots and faster ones at least 15 knots). Now walking a human does about 4mph in 24 hours that's 96 miles (that's miles not nautical miles)... but Claymore's aren't human so maybe they could do more but at the very least they just wouldn't need to rest like us. So lets keep it simple and say they can travel at human speed for 3 day stretches but not any faster since they have to account for bad terrain too. Lets say they take an 8 hour break ever third day which means they get 9 days of really traveling... that adds up to 864 miles in 10 days. Now to be fair they said they got there twice as fast but it only took them 10 days, so we can assume the ship was doing something more like 9 knots since even the slowest ship equaled this walking distance with the 4.5 knot example in 10 days. However now we run into the problem... a ship traveling at 9 knots for 10 days straight does over 2000 nautical miles... meaning it's almost the same distance from New York to Los Angeles. So Huston we have a problem... this isn't an island but a bloody continent. So for this to really work a) Claymore must travel slower then I stipulated (maybe they need more rest and Clare was just really pushing it in the first ch) b) There ships must also travel slower than stipulated and therefore not quite at later level of sailing tech. or c) They also walked a great distance from the ships landing port on the shore to the center of the island... then likely Raki's human requirements slowed them down a bit which is really what ate up most of there time of those 10 days. So the ship could have done 15 knots for all we know. Though page 1 made this seem less likely since it appeared they just walked over a hill from the ocean and where at the holy city Britain is only about 600 miles long and Japan about 700 with only the main island or about 1,200 with all of them, for reference. ------ Current Poll results to hair color of Octivia between the three places I posted this question A) 3 B) 1 C) 0 D) 1
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Nice explanation, assuming it really is a continent, just how big is the the continent, where they fight against the dragonkin? There are quite a few maps (fan made) of the island, and in almost all of them the eastern territory is made of mountains. The houses the trainees live in looked pretty rocky. So in order to get to the central land, where Rabona is, they'd have to move along the mountains. The ship most likely went northwest, just to the port near the central lands and then started walking southwest to Rabona. Judging with the eye, the ship must be at least 2-3 times faster than walking into the central lands. Spoiler for map:
Probability C seems most likely.
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