(L) Magi - Labyrinth of Magic [manga]

[marvelB]

Spoiler for Magi 170:

See, what did I tell ya? Fanalis as last resort. And what better time to use your trump card than against magical nukes?



Anyway, interesting to see how both armies keep one-upping each other these past few chapters. My guess is that once the fanalis start kicking ass next chapter Dumblemort is going to have to bring out his trump card (the dark vessels)....

[shalala]

Originally Posted by marvelB

Spoiler for Magi 170:

See, what did I tell ya? Fanalis as last resort. And what better time to use your trump card than against magical nukes?



Anyway, interesting to see how both armies keep one-upping each other these past few chapters. My guess is that once the fanalis start kicking ass next chapter Dumblemort is going to have to bring out his trump card (the dark vessels)....

Spoiler for Chapter 170:

Soo what will both parties bring out when Kou army's come into play. Because for all we know they could be setting back and watching Leam and Magnoshutatt fight. Because I don't really think Magnoshutatt would be able to last that long if Kou where to also join the fight.

[Sixth]

About Kougyoku Ren and Sinbad...Why am I have the feeling that Kougyoku Ren will die because of Sinbad's action? He did planted something into the princess's head...and this doesn't look good at all.

As for the "new" emperor, do you think that she looks and act evil, but actually is a good mother ala Itachi intention?

[Cosmic Eagle]

Originally Posted by noobita

About Kougyoku Ren and Sinbad...Why am I have the feeling that Kougyoku Ren will die because of Sinbad's action? He did planted something into the princess's head...and this doesn't look good at all.

Die as a direct result...unlikely since Sinbad shouldn't be like that...but then if the spell is mind control or something it could lead to life threatening circumstances

[Mazus]

Chapter's out and I'm already waiting impatiently for the next one. That last page was just magnificent.

[Ddraig]

Oh man,those Fanalis Corp faces just look like Spartan that about to go rape, plunder, kill all the enemy and burn down the city.

[richardtengcy]

Go go Fanalis Corp...please kick Dumblemore ass....he put the whole country safety at War just for a magician that he do not wish to return back to his original owner?

He truly fail as a leader.....

[Netto Azure]

Damn using a giant Magic laser spewing robot is the secret weapon? Still I'm thinking using the Finalis Corps at this point would be very interesting since it reveals their capabilities before Kou comes in to mess things up more.

[Nightengale]

For being a non-pureblood... Morun sure can lift. :heh

And if the Fanalis has been on stand-by the entire time, that means Alibaba's has born witness to the entire battle from the start. I expect that we'll get a glimpse of his opinion towards this war as well soon, given that we've already seen Aladdin's view of it.

Originally Posted by marvelB

Anyway, interesting to see how both armies keep one-upping each other these past few chapters. My guess is that once the fanalis start kicking ass next chapter Dumblemort is going to have to bring out his trump card (the dark vessels)....

We've had sufficient hints of both army's various layers of competencies that the one-upping of each other has been rather expected. Though I must admit that 'power of the science gunpowder' was a bit unexpected, just as Moga pulling out a fucking Big Zam as one of his 'magic tools.'

So far, it's been...

Laem
War Assets
Large Muggle Army : useless until all other war assets of Moga are defeated.
Gunpowder : one-upped by magic tools and Big Zam
Fanalis Corp
Dungeon Conquerers x 3
Possible War Assets:
Schezerade
Dungeon Conquerer of Amon (temporary, minor if any)

Magnoshtat
War Assets
Small Muggle Army : useless
Magic Tools : abohttp://forums.animesuki.com/images/as.style/default/editor/menupop.gifut to be one-upped by Fanalis
High-Level Magicians : still active war potentials, but has diminished relevance at this point.
Dark Metal Vessel Users : unknown quantity
Black Djinn
Possible War Assets:
The 'Power' spoken by Aladdin ( may or may not be Dark Djinn-related )
Aladdin (temporary, minor if any)

Likely Elements to Fuck up Both Sides:
The 'Power' ( No way Moganett has control over whatever crack he thinks he has )
Kou Empire
The 4th Magi and the Former 3rd Prince of Balbadd ( yes, I know they're both mentioned above as well. )

[Gundamx]

Gintama word: It's the Gian theory!
When one bad person who treats other as trash done one good thing he become good person!

But when good person done one bad thing then he become the worse man! even worse the bad person above...

[RRW]

the Hogwarts WMD remind me to this

YouTube

https://youtu.be/xoak7sS35HM

Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload?

skip it to 5:35

[Diveman]

as soon as I saw the Fanalis get in there, I thought...

[CJ_Walker]

Originally Posted by Cosmic Eagle

She made him out of her own life-force so it's warranted or at least understandable to a certain extent. Whether it's right or not still can't tell since Titus has been not appearing lately.

Either way, she and Laem are far more preferable than the mage side. After all, the entire thing can be said to have started when Dumbodork started freely exporting magic items and weaponry to criminals and the like in the area, causing more instability.

so that justifies invading another country right? yeah.....

Originally Posted by Cosmic Eagle

She's still a much better option than living under Moga's reign

And what sparked off the invasion was actually Moga refusing to hand Titus over anyway. Not the actual political situation

So if an American spy was caught in Russia, and Russia refused to return the spy, is it OK if the U.S. started a FULL SCALE INVASION and Possible NUCLEAR WAR?

You're pretty much saying YES! I havent even mentioned the fact that the "spy" choose to stay in "Russia" on his own... I mean the U.S. TOTALLY should have invaded Stalin's Russia, because he was a bad dude, killing about 30 million of his own people.

. . .yeah that would have gone over well -.-

Originally Posted by marvelB

....Which is ironic when you remember that he literally treats any non-magician as livestock.



That being said, I wouldn't say that lolimagi is completely in the right, either (her empire is technically one that still practices slavery, is it not?), but I would say that her cause is more just when compared to Dumblemort's. I mean, at least her country offers equal opportunities, slavery or not.....

Yes they have slaves and they fight in the Colosseum

even so. . .even if reim was the paragon of morality it still wouldn't justify invading another country, for moral reasons and for

practical reasons: for example: the kou empire could just invade reim since all of their forces are fighting magoschnatt, then after plundering reim and setting up base there and using reims resources as supply lines, could wipe out BOTH armies at the battle of reim and mago and take over THAT as well. . .

which wouldn't be surprising if the kou does take advantage of all that


Also the fact that the author is using ROME as the invading country is a message in itself. . .

also IF schezerade wins the war and takes over mago, what's will she do next? just leave the people she conquered to suffer? take them to her country as slaves?(which would be the same as the dumbledouche is doing) What if the people don't want to leave? What if they actually hate and resent reim for invading them? Is she going to kill them all when they resist? (and they WILL resist, which is what the author has been setting up as a possibility) How is she going to feed them as their infrastructure is going to be shattered during the invasion? How will she feed her own army AND the people she is "saving" at the same time.

you all need to ask these questions (and more) before blindly supporting an INVASION of another country, ESPECIALLY in THAT TIME PERIOD.

the amount of hardship put on the "people" will increase exponentially because of the invasion. So really, reim is making things worse. . .

[yuzen003]

^Sponsoring international terrorism has been used as a reason to invade in the real world, it's essentially an attack on national sovereignty to fund/supply/arm rebels and people who would overthrow the rule of law. No country can afford to let that happen for too long and continue to be taken seriously as a nation.

They've done more then enough to warrent getting invaded, the Titus incident was just the straw that broke the camel's back.

[richardtengcy]

Originally Posted by yuzen003

^Sponsoring international terrorism has been used as a reason to invade in the real world, it's essentially an attack on national sovereignty to fund/supply/arm rebels and people who would overthrow the rule of law. No country can afford to let that happen for too long and continue to be taken seriously as a nation.

They've done more then enough to warrent getting invaded, the Titus incident was just the straw that broke the camel's back.

Totally agree with Yuzen.

If a country is funding terrorism that threaten national security while holding that country spy that could possible leak super sensitive info....i see that there's a need to eradicate the threat after giving them the choice to return back their spy and allowing them to merge in a peaceful manner but was reject outright.

[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by yuzen003

^Sponsoring international terrorism has been used as a reason to invade in the real world, it's essentially an attack on national sovereignty to fund/supply/arm rebels and people who would overthrow the rule of law. No country can afford to let that happen for too long and continue to be taken seriously as a nation.

They've done more then enough to warrent getting invaded, the Titus incident was just the straw that broke the camel's back.

They could have tried diplomacy a bit harder before resorting to full scale invasion.

But it's moot anyway: Rehm doesn't need a reason to invade and/or enslave. Like Kou, "it's there" is plenty enough reason for them.

[Finre]

If Kou empire too will join this war , its going to become quite a mess.

I have a feeling Mogamett will pull a ''Dragon age 2 First Enchanter thingy'' by turning himself into a dark djinn.

[yuzen003]

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

They could have tried diplomacy a bit harder before resorting to full scale invasion.

But it's moot anyway: Rehm doesn't need a reason to invade and/or enslave. Like Kou, "it's there" is plenty enough reason for them.

As seen in this chapter they were developing super weapons capable of vaporizing normal armies, and Schezerade obviously had suspicions of this or she wouldn't have sent Titus as a spy.

In this situation diplomacy might create a peaceful resolution, or it would give the other side time to push forward with plans to build more weapons/develop new weapons/indoctrinate more wizards. Schezerade probably decided the risk of Magnoshtat developing a super weapon if given more time was too dangerous to risk and immediately went with the invasion. Since Magnoshtat had already developed a weapon of mass destruction Laem is possibly averting a greater horror at a later date by acting decisively now.

[Anh_Minh]

Ah, yes, preemptive self-defense.

Rehm is the one with a history of being, well, an empire. Magnostadt just wants to be a country by and for magicians. The lives of non-magicians in it aren't exactly rosy, but that's not why Rehm invaded.

Let's not kid around: Rehm invaded because they want to conquer the world. The worst Magnostadt's done is maybe alter the timetable and refuse to give in without a fight.

[yuzen003]

Oh I agree they invaded because they want the territory, I was just trying to address why they decided to invade immediately rather then try diplomacy to turn them into a vassal state as the real world Rome frequently did. In theory this would allow them to bring Magnostadt into the empire without having to conquer or govern them, so the empire has "control" and Magnostadt would still have been able to govern themselves as long as they acknowledged Laem's nominal authority.