(L) Fullmetal Alchemist Manga Discussion

[rorosama]

Wow!!! Had no idea that was wrath!. So do he and ed fight. He seems to be really fast.

[sarcasteak]

Originally Posted by rorosama

Wow!!! Had no idea that was wrath!. So do he and ed fight. He seems to be really fast.

How could you tell Wrath was fast from those pics...? o_0;;

[melkozchainz]

i know this has been repeated many times,
but i would like to know what wrath's power is. Has it even been released yet?

and i would like to know what manga sloth is like.

could someone give me a list of homonculus "Ultimates"? like ultimate shield, eye, etc

[dreamless]

wrath's power is the ultimate eye, but how his power works is not clear yet... maybe it's because he's fast, when he and Greed fight, he can stab Greed full of swords before Greed even start to move, and Greed is quite fast considering he's a homunculus he already has superhuman speed.

I don't know if every homunculus has an "ultimate" or not, but then it seems Gluttony has the "ultimate mouth" so to speak (nothing official though )

BTW, the development in chapter 34 is a complete shock for me, never imagined things could turn out like that

[YukimuraAkira]

wow that's really cool, it's too bad i'll never get to see it now being that the fma anime is licensed X(

im gonna go cry now.

btw the link in the beginning to the manga only has up to volume 4 how many translated volumes are there?

[sarcasteak]

Originally Posted by melkozchainz

i know this has been repeated many times,
but i would like to know what wrath's power is. Has it even been released yet?

I presume Wrath's Ultimate Eye allows him to see into the short future seeing how he owned Greed so gracefully and flawlessly...like constant-activation of Mido Ban's Snake Eye (Get Backers).

Originally Posted by melkozchainz

and i would like to know what manga sloth is like.

Here you go:

Spoiler for Manga Sloth:

I say the anime Sloth wins appearance-wise by a wide margin.

Originally Posted by melkozchainz

could someone give me a list of homonculus "Ultimates"? like ultimate shield, eye, etc

These are the official ones:
Lust - Ultimate Halberd
Greed - Ultimate Shield
Wrath - Ultiamte Eye

Gluttony is probably Ultimate Tongue or Ultimate Mouth like dreamless said.
In the anime, Greed refers to Envy "Hey, Ultimate...Oh, wait, you liked to be called a monster"...otherwise we don't know because in the manga Greed has absolutely NO respect for Envy so all he does is diss him.

Originally Posted by dreamless

BTW, the development in chapter 34 is a complete shock for me, never imagined things could turn out like that

I don't know...I kinda expected it to come sooner or later, so I wasn't really moved by it and didn't think it was "dark" like others do.

Originally Posted by YukimuraAkira

btw the link in the beginning to the manga only has up to volume 4 how many translated volumes are there?

Chinese scanslation is up to the most recent chapter, 34.

[dreamless]

Originally Posted by sarcasteak

I don't know...I kinda expected it to come sooner or later, so I wasn't really moved by it and didn't think it was "dark" like others do.

actually it's not whether it's "dark" or not that shocked me... it's that

Spoiler:

Lust becomes that military guy's girlfriend

[sarcasteak]

Originally Posted by dreamless

actually it's not whether it's "dark" or not that shocked me... it's that

Spoiler:

Lust becomes that military guy's girlfriend

Why are you complaining? Maybe we'll get a glimpse of why she is named Lust.

[melkozchainz]

Lust?

Spoiler:

what military guy is Lust's boyfriend? (I don't wanna see him die...)

[sarcasteak]

Originally Posted by melkozchainz

Lust?

Spoiler:

what military guy is Lust's boyfriend? (I don't wanna see him die...)

Jan Havok...one of Roy's men. Read Yebyosh's English translation of chapter 34 and you'll see. Poor fella doesn't know what he's getting into...tsk, tsk.

[vspirit]

Originally Posted by Yebyosh

Some just went disappointed because they cannot father the child of the FMA creater

uhu time for the guyz to rejoice then. unless she's married (or touch wood, can't hv children for some reason), guys stand a chance to be the father of her child hooray!

but i digress. male, female or she-male, arakawa-sensei's art rock big time. i couldn't really tell from the manga, well it was /good/ yes but i didn't have much more of an opinion than that (i kinda tot some of the charas look the same after you look at them awhile, like most manga charas tend to be eg: roy and izumi). 'til i bought the art book and was wowwed into next month.

Spoiler:

wow, havok/voc's always struck me as an unlucky sap who always ends up getting the shorter end of the stick, eventho he's cool in his own right, skirt-chasin' habit and all...oh well, let's hope it's not another hughes case

[Splendiferous]

This question(s) is for someone who has both read and understands the more up-to-date chinese-translations of the manga, which although I'm trying to follow, not knowing very much Chinese sort of impairs that a little bit:

First off (All chapter 31-manga spoiler questions):

Spoiler:

In Chapter 31, when Hawkeye 'captures' Barry the "Chopper" Armor, and then Mustang comes along to help question him... Were Hawkeye and Mustang originally planning to meet off duty and the chopper just happened to jump Hawkeye, or were they both operating undercover specifically to catch him or was it something else?

And if you have the time:

Spoiler:

In the same chapter, while Greed is propped up on the cross, and before he's dissolved in (what I presume to be) 'imperfect liquid philosopher's stone'. He refuses or goes against something that (again presumption) Hoenhime/Pride says... What was it?

Finally if you're not bored enough already:

Spoiler:

This is more of a theory question, unless it's been otherwise stated more explicitly in the manga... But I'm presuming that the existence and creation of the 7 homunculi each representative of one of the 7 sins is particularly important to some master plan that FMA is slowly revealing. Even though Greed seems to refuse to work with the others, if the existence of 7 'Ultimates' is important why would they go off and kill him? I guess it's asking much to presume that having all 7 homunculi is the lynch pin to whatever plan is being hatched, but it seems like something which would be important to the story. Has it already been stated explicitly that Greed isn't necessary? Or is he perhaps being replaced somehow?
Knowledge, thoughts, conjecture?

Thanks very much for any/all answers to questions, I'll shut up now

[Yebyosh]

Originally Posted by Splendiferous

This question(s) is for someone who has both read and understands the more up-to-date chinese-translations of the manga, which although I'm trying to follow, not knowing very much Chinese sort of impairs that a little bit:

First off (All chapter 31-manga spoiler questions):

Spoiler:

In Chapter 31, when Hawkeye 'captures' Barry the "Chopper" Armor, and then Mustang comes along to help question him... Were Hawkeye and Mustang originally planning to meet off duty and the chopper just happened to jump Hawkeye, or were they both operating undercover specifically to catch him or was it something else?

Spoiler question begets spoiler answer...

Spoiler:

Nope Riza was off-duty and was grocery shopping. Barry was getting back to his old pre-armor days and decided to get an easy target. Unfortunately for him, his first target was Riza Hawkeye

Roy only came because Riza later called him to come.

Originally Posted by Splendiferous

And if you have the time:

Spoiler:

In the same chapter, while Greed is propped up on the cross, and before he's dissolved in (what I presume to be) 'imperfect liquid philosopher's stone'. He refuses or goes against something that (again presumption) Hoenhime/Pride says... What was it?

Spoiler:

The Father asked Greed if he would consider serving him again. Greed refused. As he was being sent to be deconstructed, Greed laughed and taunted The Father not to get choked by him (meaning Greed already knows the fate awaiting him).

Originally Posted by Splendiferous

Finally if you're not bored enough already:

Spoiler:

This is more of a theory question, unless it's been otherwise stated more explicitly in the manga... But I'm presuming that the existence and creation of the 7 homunculi each representative of one of the 7 sins is particularly important to some master plan that FMA is slowly revealing. Even though Greed seems to refuse to work with the others, if the existence of 7 'Ultimates' is important why would they go off and kill him? I guess it's asking much to presume that having all 7 homunculi is the lynch pin to whatever plan is being hatched, but it seems like something which would be important to the story. Has it already been stated explicitly that Greed isn't necessary? Or is he perhaps being replaced somehow?
Knowledge, thoughts, conjecture?

Spoiler:

The Father made Greed to be Greed (as implied by Greed's "You made me to be this way"), implying that the Sins were made out of design, not by chance or emotions.

Since The Father offered Greed a chance to come back but still killed him when refused, in his grand scheme of things, Greed is not really crucial but likely a bonus. In looking through the Sins, it can be theorised that they are a model series in a production line. Each one is an improvement over the previous model. Hence it is likely Pride would be the best Homunculus ever.

[melkozchainz]

Concerning Al(ch.33)

Spoiler:

since when could he do alchemy without a circle? was it because he remembered what he saw when he tried to transmute his mom? and in that memory, is the little baby gluttony?

thx in advance for answering

[Yebyosh]

Originally Posted by melkozchainz

Concerning Al(ch.33)

Spoiler:

since when could he do alchemy without a circle? was it because he remembered what he saw when he tried to transmute his mom? and in that memory, is the little baby gluttony?

thx in advance for answering

Spoiler:

Ever since he remembered the Truth in Chapter 30. He remembered and slowly deciphered it, thus learning the concepts of true Alchemy as what Ed experienced. He only started trying it out in Chapter 33.

What baby Gluttony?! There is no baby Gluttony in those frames. There is only the Truth, Alphonse, his family and the usual alchemical images.

[vesentac]

Since Al is in a suit of armor, if he performs human transmutation,


what does or can he lose?

I mean Ed could just reform his armor so what does Al present in "equal trade"?

[jonli]

Since Al now has nothing more than a soul. It would be logical to think that if he did human transmutation he would loose the only thing he has....his soul.

Probably he would loose somethings like memmories....like memmories of his mother? Or loose some feelings like....loosing the ability to laugh...to feel sorry for cats.

Etc.

[smukydog]

concerning ch35

Spoiler:

OMG I just read (actually it's more like "watched" since I can't read Chinese!) ch 35. I can't believe Mustang actually killed Lt Ross! It was so disgusting. Could somebody please tell me what did he say to her before he killed her? I can't believe Mustang is such an idiot to believe that Ross killed Hughes

[melkozchainz]

Originally Posted by smukydog

concerning ch35

Spoiler:

OMG I just read (actually it's more like "watched" since I can't read Chinese!) ch 35. I can't believe Mustang actually killed Lt Ross! It was so disgusting. Could somebody please tell me what did he say to her before he killed her? I can't believe Mustang is such an idiot to believe that Ross killed Hughes

riza is talkin on the phone saying the colonel wont be back in just a short time(that is the big quote on the panel)

and
he did not say much. he is blunt
he just says "you are maria ross" and then snap!

to ed he just says "hmph. fullmetal"

wow. roy is strange

[Akichan]

Spoiler:

Now that I'm all caught up on the manga I have to say that Chapter 35 was SO disturbing, for a few reasons. For one, I liked Maria Ross. For another, that's a rather disgusting, inhumane way to die and for a third she was innocent. Although it's really Envy's fault, I can't help but hate Roy for that!

Edit: Added spoiler tags.