2011-11-06, 01:17 | Link #5362 |
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not trying to be a hater but i really dont care about kumagawa or the third force right now what i'm really interested is in zenkichi and what kinda skill will he developed to fight against medaka.
and even though the third force is trying to stop this fight it wont happen beacuse it happen twice and heck nobody tried to stop it beside's i think it will happen because that's what we all want and also this is to prove how zenkichi can be more of a badass than before. also there are a lot of things that are a mistery about zenkichi and i mean a lot such as how did ajimu and zenkichi became BF and GF. also what puzzels me is the thing that ajimu mentioned such as this "FATHER" that medaka kill, and also who becomes the MC by killing a family member because ajimu did mentioned that this was one of the three dispicable acts a human can commit,but that's jut me in thinking. also if zenkichi does gain an ability to fight againts medaka it be kinda cool if it were something like "NORMALITY" that can make their apponents fight on equal footing not like medakas "FORBIDDEN GOD MODE" that makes you weaker than your apponent or like kumagawa's "BOOK MAKER" which makes you into a minus OR "ALL FICTION". an if zenkichi does fight againts kumagawa i hope that it'll be more epic than their first fight though that was the definition of epicness for zenkichi. and as medaka mentioned that it is not those who win who become strong but those the lose and crawl back up that are the strongest. so the only thing left to do is to wait and see how zenkichi starts to kick rears. |
2011-11-06, 01:42 | Link #5363 |
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Zenkichi won't win with a "power". If a "power" was all it took then Ajimu could easily win herself, or just grant him the appropriate power. Heck, I'm pretty sure Ajimu does have the power to take away or nullify other people's powers. Not to mention that Naze already made a drug that does that.
The issue here is a matter of "fate". Remember that the basic test for Abnormality is to roll dice and always get some unlikely result (all sixes for Unzan and a tower for Medaka). And the test to qualify for Class 13 is to enter random numbers into a constantly changing password and get it right every time. More than her "power", Medaka's specialness is that she cannot lose. Ever. Fate itself is on her side. The world bends over backwards to make sure she wins. For Zenkichi to win he'll have to somehow change his fate. |
2011-11-06, 01:59 | Link #5364 | |
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2011-11-06, 02:29 | Link #5365 |
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I guess Ajimu is the one who returns AllFiction to Kumagawa.
If Kumagawa dies before he reforms, then the seal put on Ajimu will never be removed, and by giving AllFiction back, Kumagawa will be stronger(and now he even has a harem!) and make a bigger possibility for him to reform. |
2011-11-06, 02:34 | Link #5366 | |
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@whx_epic: Maybe that's why Ajimu gave him All-Fiction years ago in the first place, to keep him from killing himself and leaving her sealed forever. All-Fiction does revive Kumagawa whether he wants it or not. She gave it back to him once he showed the resolve to live due to his desire to fight Medaka, and returned it once he was in danger of dying again. |
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2011-11-06, 04:26 | Link #5369 | |
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Okay, maybe it is a bit farfetched to say that it is a harem for a normal shonen series, but this is kumagawa(very non-standard shonen character) we are talking about . |
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2011-11-06, 06:50 | Link #5370 |
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I am not really happy about third force since it won't fix anything by bring back the status quo since as we now know it was FAR from perfect(medaka doesn't have friends, zen is used by medaka).
I don't understand why people believe that Kumagawa deserves harem O_o, he ripped off Ajimu face(even if she was evil it doesn't change anything), he was FAR to easily forgiven for that. |
2011-11-06, 06:59 | Link #5371 | |
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Not hating on zen or kuma, but tbh I want to see Kuma's group fail doing what they set out to do and have a 3 way battle with kuma+meda vs zen. I wanna see zen become a troll for once and troll the face out of everyone. |
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2011-11-06, 07:07 | Link #5372 | |
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2011-11-06, 07:21 | Link #5373 | |
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And somehow, even without remembering about that (whatever that memorie is) he instinctively being on guard before Kumagawa. And if I'm right, I'm curious to see what's this thing, because I doubt that Zen behaves like this with Kumagawa only because of what happened with medaka. The problem is the only three who know this are Zen (who does not remember), Kumagawa (which is the king of liars in most of the cases) and Najimi and well....I don't know if she will ever said something about that time. ._. So the only hope is that Zen remember that time. |
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2011-11-06, 09:52 | Link #5376 |
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I said hypothetically . Maybe dislike is the wrong word. Disagree is what i meant. Zenkichi is trying to prove Medaka wrong, but because he wants to be special to her. Medaka wants a good battle, and Kumagawa just wants to screw things up. Now that I think about it, none of them are completely noble motivations. I'll just sit back and see what unfolds. Last edited by DawnEmperor; 2011-11-06 at 10:09. |
2011-11-06, 10:22 | Link #5377 | |
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Akune- Repeatedly attacked Medaka during Middle school Oudo- Nearly killed Kikaijima and Koga Kumagawa- Well you know... On one hand, many antagonists have freudian excuses. On the other hand, certain actions can't be ignored. |
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2011-11-06, 11:23 | Link #5378 | |
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In any case, while a win for Kumagawa may be up to interpretation here, I think we can at least agree that he didn't lose. That in and of itself is pretty significant for his character. An exceedingly interesting theory for being a Not Equal though. When you think of it like that, it's almost as if near the entire world could become a part of Anshin'in several times over. A truly frightening thought indeed. Speaking of Anshin'in though... I still haven't quite figured out what it is that's going on in her mind. To her, humans are so valueless an existence that they haven't more worth than a fluttering leaf in the breeze. If that's true, then is she really trying to advance the Flask Plan? All of this nonsense about the main character and what not, defeating Medaka, and even toying around with Zenkichi. It almost seems as though she's doing nothing but having fun to try and pass the time. |
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2011-11-06, 12:19 | Link #5379 |
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I find it more interesting that the Hadaka Apron Alliance wants to return everyone to the status quo... when everyone's changed enough that you'd have to turn back time t get. That state of innocent happiness that existed before th treasure hunt chapter. Like to the time before Zenkichi became a bit abnormal.
I think nobody but Kumagawa understands that it's impossible... but he's going along anyways because it amuses him to try, and because he does act as the ally of the weak (Kikaijima in this case). it won't ever be quite the same -the best they can hope for is a new basis of understanding that will let Zen and Medaka communicate at a respectful level. |
2011-11-06, 12:56 | Link #5380 | |
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i'm not the type of person who jumps the gun smacking every person in the face when they say "hypothetically speaking" or "there is a friend of mine who..." by proclaiming that they are talking about themselves. |
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