2011-11-28, 23:47 | Link #142 |
Senior Member
|
Yuuno with the ability to use any weapon. Almost sound like a game breaker. There isn't much Weapon of Mass Destruction in the ZoT world. Or at least not before the end of season 2. Kinda dropped it in the beginning of 3.
He can already do a lot of stuff that weapons there are almost useless to him. Hey does this mean he can use other's Intelligence Device? what about being able to use RH properly? Oh my God I'm coming up with a lot of ideas |
2011-11-29, 00:16 | Link #143 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2011
|
Quote:
Saito IS the kind of guy that would pick up a sword and charge someone headlong with it, without any strategy. Saito IS the kind of guy who accepts a duel from some ponce who think's he's God's gift to the world. Yuuno is a scholar who avoids unnecessary fights. Faced with a superior opponent, Yuuno's preferred response would be to retreat and find another way to deal with the problem. For example, when confronted by a Gandalfr with a magic-eating sword that can carve through all of his dragons, Yuuno would retreat, and then attack and subdue Saito when he's asleep. Which is exactly what the Sword of God should be doing. The Shield is the one who's meant to charge into the thick of the fray, because the Left Hand of God is the meatshield. Subaru is a meatshield. Yuuno is a support-type, like Caro. You wouldn't give Caro the Gandalfr powers, you'd give her the Windalfr ones. |
|
2011-11-29, 00:22 | Link #144 |
The Flame Crussader
Join Date: Aug 2009
|
Still Yuuno is quite different to Caro, those are few but Yuuno also have his moments of charging into enemies during battles, in fact, most of his fights consist of charging at the enemy(just watch his skirmishes with Vita during A's), it's true that Yuuno is a defensive mage with support skills but he also knows how to go face to face against an opponent if he decides it's necessary, Caro rarely makes such an aggressive approach to the enemies.
To be fair, i didn't know such trivial things like temperament and such are part of the selection criteria of the familiars in the Zeroverse. Still Yuuno isn't completely stranged from direct confrontation so, he can still qualify for Gandalfr powers.
__________________
|
2011-11-29, 02:17 | Link #146 | |
Senior Member
|
Quote:
|
|
2011-11-29, 05:04 | Link #147 | |
Adeptus Animus
Author
Join Date: Jan 2007
Age: 36
|
On counterspell, let's not forget that Mid magic has barrier breaking spells. That's going to make for fun surprises.
Quote:
Last edited by Keroko; 2011-11-29 at 05:15. |
|
2011-11-29, 07:31 | Link #148 | ||
Bibliophile
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: There's this dot on the world map...
|
Quote:
Quote:
__________________
|
||
2011-11-29, 16:30 | Link #149 | |||||
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2011
|
Quote:
While nice, that's not how I would have done things, which is good, as it means I could do the same crossover in a sufficiently different fashion. Quote:
Quote:
The spell he's preparing in Vita's capture field is a Teleporter High, according to the guide. After he gets that ready, he asks Arf how she's doing on breaking the barrier part of the field to let them out; he tells her that he cannot break it himself. That might mean that he tried and failed already, or that he simply doesn't know the right spell in the first place, or that he does know and is hopeless at it. Quote:
And commanding beasts is a power much better suited to hindering an enemy's movements, as well as facilitating the movements of his own allies. Quote:
If he ever needs to strike someone, he can lash out and crush with his Chain Bind, or smash someone with a Round Shield or Circle Protection barrier. The Jewel Seed monster that threw itself against Nanoha's basic Protection spell was blasted to pieces by the kickback; years later, a teenage Nanoha says that Yuuno is still better with barrier and shield spells than she is. Yuuno's defenses should therefore pack a lot of kick, if he hits someone with them. Basically, Yuuno will never voluntarily engage an opponent close enough to use a sword against them, nor will he let an opponent get that close to him. Even if they DID get that close, they'd have to get past his defenses and then penetrate his Barrier Jacket armor. He doesn't need a sword or Gandalfr powers for self-defense, or for the defense of others. It would be a wasted gift. Derflinger would likewise be a wasted gift, but one he's likely to never get. Yuuno would sooner reveal that he's a "ferret" with non-elemental magical powers than he would reveal that his true form is a human being, so it's doubly unlikely that Louise would take him out shopping for a sword. It's three-times unlikely in that Yuuno would discourage her from such a purchase, as he's not the sword-wielding type. The most use that Yuuno might get out of the Gandalfr runes is getting himself a bow, so that he can snipe enemies with super-far, super-strong, super-accurate arrows. Maybe he could even figure out a spell to create arrows from magical energy, so that he doesn't run out of ammo, and can therefore fire an endless flurry of shots with super-speed. ("My arrows will blot out the sun!") But he still wouldn't be using Derflinger. Also, why would he need to do that? Louise is the one who brings the firepower and long range devastation. |
|||||
2011-11-29, 17:25 | Link #150 |
Adeptus Animus
Author
Join Date: Jan 2007
Age: 36
|
Wasted gift? The Gandalfr runes allow the Gandalfr to know how every aspect of a weapon works. For someone like Yuuno, who's job includes finding out how old forgotten stuff used to work, that's like gods gift to archaeologists. Limited to weapons, sure, but Yuuno would be jumping in joy when he learns of it. Then he'd find smart ways to apply it, like, ooh I don't know, figuring out the weaknesses of the enemy weapons? Or learning how they work and apply that into replicating them?
And that's not even getting into the fact that the word "weapon" is rather undefined. Magic can be used as a weapon, no? Bam. Total understanding of magic. |
2011-11-29, 17:32 | Link #152 | ||
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2011
|
Quote:
Quote:
The Mind of God can cast Void spells, or make things that do. |
||
2011-11-29, 17:32 | Link #153 |
Adeptus Animus
Author
Join Date: Jan 2007
Age: 36
|
'Meant as a weapon' is still pretty darn vague. If I pick up a stick with the intent of killing someone, for me that stick is 'meant as a weapon.' And offensive spells are definitely designed to kill, and they definitely make physical contact considering the magic in question comes from the mage's body.
Edit: Sneaky Sunder ninja is sneaky. |
2011-11-29, 18:10 | Link #154 |
The Flame Crussader
Join Date: Aug 2009
|
Well, to be more specific, an object made with the intent of being a weapon. The stick can be a weapon but if it wasn't originally crafted with the intent of it being a weapon then the Gandalfr powers don't work on it.
This was explained in the anime when Saito took an ornamental sword and wasn't able to gain expertise on it because it was created to be a decoration, not a weapon, even when it's a perfectly functional sword.
__________________
|
2011-11-30, 12:04 | Link #159 | |
Left for TFF
Author
|
And now for a fusion premise...
Quote:
__________________
|
|
2011-12-01, 09:08 | Link #160 | ||
Bibliophile
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: There's this dot on the world map...
|
Quote:
Spoiler for Unfamiliar:
Quote:
__________________
|
||
Thread Tools | |
|
|