2010-02-05, 18:42 | Link #122 | ||
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Join Date: Nov 2003
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When I'm talking about male and female, I was thinking of real life situations (the most likely cases.) Quote:
After Chiaki, Nodame was all about Chiaki = after meeting Chiaki and fell in love with him, influenced by him her decisions of going further into music was mostly because of him. |
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2010-02-05, 18:52 | Link #123 | |
I disagree with you all.
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Before, music was just part of her dream to be surrounded by kids and have fun with them. The only reason she attended a music college is that she was pressured into it because of her talent. To her, it was a detour. Meeting Chiaki added "being Chiaki's wife" to her dream, but it didn't really change her rapport to music. It was shallow before, it was shallow after. |
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2010-02-05, 19:03 | Link #124 |
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I also was not too happy with Chiaki going off with his teacher in episode 3. Partially I understand because we all know how much seeing his teacher meant to Chiaki but he promised Nodame and obviously this performance was very important to her. Not to mention now that he connected with his teacher I am sure Chiaki could have explained where he was going and they could have arranged to connect again. And yes I do agree Chiaki (without meaning to) is becoming more like his father.
But then I don't think Nodame is perfect either. For example getting upset at Chiaki because he improved so much without her. I understand her feelings but it's not Chiaki's fault. Overall as much as I love both Nodame & Chiaki they both have issues. Although frustrating as these issues are at times I can't really complain because I find them very realistic and not just dramatic for dramatic sake. But then at other times as much as I love Nodame/Chiaki I do sometimes wonder are they really right for each other?
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2010-02-05, 21:39 | Link #125 | |
AS Oji-kun
Join Date: Nov 2006
Age: 74
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Don't you think he treated Rui especially rudely on the walk home from the restaurant? He continued to walk quickly and left her following behind (in a parody of traditional Japanese gender roles?), then sent her on her way. He could have walked her home. (Rui observes that they don't live that far apart.) Was this just Chiaki's natural haughtiness in action, or did he sense Rui's potential romantic attraction to him and try to nip it in the bud? Was this some loyalty to whatever he has with Nodame, or just his inability to tell Rui honestly that he wasn't likely to see her in that way? (Or, worse, does he potentially see her that way and fears what the consequences of pursuing those feelings would be for Nodame?) I agree with Ascaloth; this was one of the best of Kon's episodes so far. There's a lot going on just below the surface even though there's the usual profusion of over-the-top scenes like Rui's sudden infatuation and later abandonment. Nodame Cantabile never has the subtlety of animation found in a show like Cross Game, but there was still a lot left unsaid by Kon and the mangaka for us to chew on here. (And, please, manga readers, don't give us any hints about the future. I really don't want to know anything about where this is going. It's too much fun to watch and speculate on these events as they happen.) I don't recall feeling this way about the Paris episodes. Oh, one more thing. I felt very proud for Nodame in this episode. She really maintained her professionalism in the face of horrible disappointment. I don't entirely fault Chiaki, though. Having the chance to spend time with his idol after thirteen years of separation was just too compelling. It does underscore that self-absorption we've seen so many times before, though. He could have made an appointment to see Viera the next day, for instance. Yet when faced with having to choose between his own needs and those of Nodame, he put himself first as he always does.
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2010-02-06, 03:13 | Link #126 | |||
I disagree with you all.
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OTOH, I see Chiaki's love for music as deep and enduring. Which could mean either that he'd stay faithful to a world-renowned pianist Nodame, or that he'd sleep with any talented diva out there. Quote:
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2010-02-07, 02:25 | Link #129 |
I don't give a damn, dude
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: In Despair
Age: 37
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Watched Episode 4.
So, they skipped out.... Spoiler for manga:
, but that's fine, since it doesn't contribute that much to the main storyline anyway. There's a better chance to catch up with Spoiler for manga:
coming up anyway, so no big loss there. I just hope they don't cut that, too.... Anyway, as to the episode itself, the pacing is not bad, once again. It's only not as good as the previous episode because it focuses mainly on the Paris bunch of side characters, which was pretty much the same ground as the manga had anyway. Still, not taking anything away from it, this is also quite a good episode by Kon's standards for the Nodame franchise. |
2010-02-07, 11:17 | Link #130 |
Kana Hanazawa ♥
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: France
Age: 37
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I'm really enjoying this season so far. The pacing seems fine to me, but I haven't read the manga so I can't comment much on it. But I still miss the japanese characters ... and the domestic violence. I loved those scenes
Seeing Chiaki drunk in episode 4 was very fun, as was seeing him jealous. And Nodame was hilarious as always. I never cared much for Tanya but I'm starting to like her after this episode, she isn't as bad as I thought. |
2010-02-07, 11:27 | Link #131 |
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Episode 4 was all kinds of awesome. Jealous Chiaki and Tanya are a sight to behold.
I don't remember her and Kuroki playing a duet though. Did that happen in season 2 or did they just reel a couple of shots of Kuroki and Tanya playing respectively the oboe and the piano? If it's the former, I can more easily understand Tanya's feelings, especially the part where she said she liked him for his oboe, not his looks. Also, that new girl sounds like Haruka Tomatsu. I could be wrong though. |
2010-02-07, 13:32 | Link #132 | |
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I think it was during Nodame's Mozart concert. If I remember correctly it was after Nodame's concert. They all dressed up in period clothes and I think Tanya played the piano, Kuroki the oboe and Chiaki the violin. This is also when Tanya started to fall for Kuroki.
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2010-02-07, 16:07 | Link #134 | |
I disagree with you all.
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2010-02-07, 18:05 | Link #136 | ||
I disagree with you all.
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Rui is technically perfect, but generally boring. Her life's been nothing but music since she was a kid, so all she ends up expressing with her music is music. Nodame's the opposite. Plenty of technical problems, but she's always saying something. (Even if that something can be pretty damn weird.) Too much. She puts so much of herself she ends up blotting out the composer entirely. (Well, those are exaggerations. Rui's not a robot, and Nodame'd started correcting her problems back in Japan already. But they're both works in progress.) Quote:
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2010-02-07, 18:06 | Link #137 | |
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He's really Yoda, so the ladies knew not to interfere. Spoiler:
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2010-02-07, 19:31 | Link #138 |
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Tanya
Looks like the next episode is covering Tanya's progression from a girl with talent who didn't apply herself to someone who seems to be rapidly putting more and more effort into her practice and actually getting somewhere.
I'm digging these. Yeah, I can't wait for the inevitable spinoff: Spoiler:
Lol.
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2010-02-07, 23:20 | Link #139 |
Yuuki Aoi
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Episode four rescued this series for me. Or maybe I just finally began to get it. But the subtleties of all the interactions, as well as the hints of some positive romantic development(s), got me back on track. Every moment counted and was interesting. Now I'm really looking forward to ep5.
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