2010-12-09, 18:53 | Link #10501 | ||
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the PAC-3 patriot missiles, which is useless against the kind of missiles we're talking about here. the THAAD, which i believe might be useful against them. and the Aegis SM3 missiles, which are definitively useful. problem is two folds however 1) missile saturation of defense systems. 2) possibility of EMP. the last one is probably not a risk for the coming decade (Iran is nowhere near the level required for a thermonuclear bomb. but the first one is something that needs to be taken into account.
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2010-12-09, 18:59 | Link #10502 | |
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I don't think missile saturation is much of a problem, considering their... Arsenal. EMP is out of the question. They don't have a nuclear missile (or bomb for that matter) and EMP bobms just aren't advanced enough.
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2010-12-09, 19:04 | Link #10503 | |
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do you know ? Iran is estimated to have around 200-300 Shehab-3 missiles + an as of yet unknown number of other missiles with longer ranges. (all with over 2000 Km range) if Wikileaks is to be believed, NK may have given them several BM-25 missiles with considearbly more range then the ones they have now. also, they are developing additional missiles and producing more of the existing types all the time. several hundred missiles is more then enough to saturate the US's current missile defenses. as for them having Nuclear bombs. its a matter of time at this rate... frankly, a different tactic is required.
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2010-12-09, 19:14 | Link #10504 |
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I meant the number of missiles they had by arsenal.
Though they may have several hundred, it's nearly certain that they wouldn't even fire a quarter of them at once.
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2010-12-09, 19:20 | Link #10505 | |
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does it matter ? how many THAAD and SM3 missiles do you think the U.S has today. I'm willing to bet that its less then 100 missiles all and all. plus, while the THAAD is land based, the SM3 is not, and is instead installed on special ships. do you think they would all be in place between Venezuela and the U.S at all times ? not allowing the establishment of this base is the proper course of action, rather then formulating a counter for it. make it clear to Chavez that the creation of such a base would not be allowed.
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2010-12-09, 19:26 | Link #10506 |
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Of course, prevention in the first place is always better.
I don't know if this is even a military tactic, but can't jets take out missiles with their own? Just a thought.
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2010-12-09, 19:33 | Link #10507 | |
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especially in the ranges we're talking about. and ESPECIALLY if we're talking fighter jets doing the interception. there used to be a joint American-Israeli development in the field involving long endurance UAVs, but it wasn't completed to my knowledge. though i heard rumors the new Heron TP drone was developed with that role in mind. there was also that new Airborne laser thing that got canceled a few years back.
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2010-12-10, 01:01 | Link #10509 | |
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They can't get in line for citizenship. Let alone a greencard. The law would just give them a chance to do so, provided they've already joined the military or successfully completed high school. Why the fuck are you bashing on kids.
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2010-12-10, 02:57 | Link #10512 | |
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Sorry pal, but my taxes have been paying for many of the services that they've been using, Living just 20 miles from the border, it pisses me off to no end that people like you are okay with laws being broken. I've already posted links about the problems America has with illegal immigration. I won't bring them up again as all you have to do is search. You have absolutely no idea the problems my country is having with illegal immigration, and the people that are here under the radar. The entire reason why Democrats want to make them all citizens, is to create a large Democrat voting block that will also provide cheap labor for their corporations. It has nothing to do with creating opportunities for people to come here and make their lives better. If that were the case, they'd bring in true immigration reform and make it easier for the hundreds of thousands of people that come here legally every year(with green cards, work visas and other access). And I haven't met one legal immigrant, who agrees with giving these people amnesty or an easy path to citizenship. Not one. They all spent years doing everything right, jumping through hoops, paying their fees, learning how our government works, taking the tests, spending YEARS to call themselves Americans. How dare anyone cheapen the efforts that those legal immigrants went through. Face it Frenchie. You and I probably agree on nothing. Or almost nothing. We are completely on opposite ends on practically all issues. |
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2010-12-10, 03:42 | Link #10513 | ||
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Two words: BOAT PEOPLE. Seems that the Americans are having a similar discussion to that which Australia had during John "dessicated coconut" Howard's 11 years as PM. And are still having today.
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2010-12-10, 06:39 | Link #10514 |
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China tightens grip ahead of Nobel ceremony
http://ca.reuters.com/article/topNew...6B106320101210
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2010-12-10, 06:44 | Link #10515 | ||
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See how no-one cares? Irrelevant, until you realise these are the people who get Ishihara elected again and again. Domestic emigration to Yokohama was increased because of him...
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